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Do not let the Emmys ruin Andor for you. You guys are stronger than this.
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Oh, 100% gently caress the Emmys/Oscars and enjoy things on their own merits
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Jul 16, 2025 03:23
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I'm outraged that this show is not winning the big award. The cast and crew really deserve the cash prizes that come with such awards! Moreover, if Andor doesn't win any awards, how are people going to know about it, and that it's a good show? There's a great deal at stake here.
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Jul 16, 2025 04:45
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I'd like Andor to win awards, but I'm pretty sure it used up all its luck just getting made at all.
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Jul 16, 2025 04:57
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Tankbuster posted:no the point everyone keeps making is that finn was sidelined for the chinese mass market. Then the only evidence provided is an alternate poster for made for china which has no finn. The sequels did badly in china because there wasn't a big star wars audience in china, and TFA got outcompeted by another disney movie. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jul 16, 2025 |
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Jul 16, 2025 05:40
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Marsupial Ape posted:Do not let the Emmys ruin Andor for you. You guys are stronger than this. Andor is doing fine. It will hold up over time and that's all that matters.
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Jul 16, 2025 05:55
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Marsupial Ape posted:Do not let the Emmys ruin Andor for you. You guys are stronger than this. No they aren't
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Jul 16, 2025 05:57
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Dexo posted:No they aren't I'm personally bending steel bars over here. Wrraaaaauuuggggh!
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Jul 16, 2025 06:12
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Awards shows are always a joke, but acting like Andor got robbed with 14 emmy nominations is nuts to me lol The show is getting it's well deserved critical recognition
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Jul 16, 2025 07:17
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PriorMarcus posted:Turns out the actor for Partagaz is a TERF so I'm happy he didn't get any awards recognition. Where did this come from? I did a bit of googling and nothing seems to come up for Anton Lesser. e: or is this just based on the fact that he got cast in Harry Potter?
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Jul 16, 2025 08:16
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kiimo posted:I met an Academy voter at a party and said I thought Crouching Tiger deserved it more than Gladiator and he straight up told me he never watched Crouching Tiger and several Academy voters didn't either because they "don't do subtitles" How hard did you have to resist the urge to chokeslam that motherfucker through a table? Because man...
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Jul 16, 2025 10:00
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Alchenar posted:Where did this come from? I did a bit of googling and nothing seems to come up for Anton Lesser. what do you think
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Jul 16, 2025 11:07
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I don't think being cast in the lovely wizard TV show makes someone a TERF. I guess I think less of them for it for sure but I would imagine most of the actors getting cast just don't really know much or care about JKR's beliefs.
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Jul 16, 2025 11:30
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Oh I'm sure they all know and will all have had conversations with their agents/publicists about how they want to handle it. But no, this doesn't make him a terf and it's a pretty lovely accusation to throw around.
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Jul 16, 2025 11:43
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Yeah nor is everyone who is still buying Harry Potter merchandise, going to the Harry Potter studios experiences, watching the films or reading the books automatically a TERF either. Like yeah I wouldn't go near that stuff with a lovely stick but with my sister and her girlfriend directly working in sexual health and equality and having grown up around and knowing lots of trans people, this poo poo is extremely on my radar, but for people who don't know trans people and aren't clued up on everything/aren't extremely online, you can see how it passes them by/they don't see the link between consuming HP and supporting JKR
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Jul 16, 2025 11:45
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I'd like Andor to win awards, but I'm pretty sure it used up all its luck just getting made at all. You could say that they're all out of perfect.
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Jul 16, 2025 11:56
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I’m sorry I won the Emmy instead of Andor. They won’t let me return it!
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Jul 16, 2025 13:56
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Love Rat posted:Andor is doing fine. It will hold up over time and that's all that matters. Andor can stand on its own two feet. It's you guys I worry about.
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Jul 16, 2025 14:32
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Can the mods somehow give the concept of the Emmys as an institution an honorary six-hour probation for trolling? I think that would be cathartic. Like a smudging for pedantic kids.
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Jul 16, 2025 14:35
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Toplowtech posted:I think their point was that Disney is a cowardly conservative company that will blame foreigners/everyone else for their mistakes. "I am not racist, THE CHINESE ARE RACIST"- Disney, racistly. But thanks for bringing more proof that Disney is run by liars. For more examples of Disney cowardice and lies, but with some slight homophobia added this time, I believe they are currently doing that at Pixar with Elio. The problem is that when it comes to the chinese market, these badly researched market ideas will be seen as reality. People won't even consider things like "star wars was never big in china because the movies came out when china was far more closed off." I couldn't stand the sequels and I was the prime age for kids being introduced to star wars via the prequel trilogy.
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Jul 16, 2025 14:37
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Finally watched Acolyte, not really sure what all the bitching was about. I give it a 6.5/10, watchable Star Wars old republic slop, head and shoulders superior to what became of the sequal trilogy. Ahsoka was decent as well, 7/10, 9/10 for rebels nostolgia and catty bitches. Skeleton crew falls into that same range.
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Jul 16, 2025 14:48
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Vinylshadow posted:Oh, 100% gently caress the Emmys/Oscars and enjoy things on their own merits Halloween Jack posted:I'm outraged that this show is not winning the big award. The cast and crew really deserve the cash prizes that come with such awards! Moreover, if Andor doesn't win any awards, how are people going to know about it, and that it's a good show? There's a great deal at stake here. Lazy Fair posted:Awards shows are always a joke, but acting like Andor got robbed with 14 emmy nominations is nuts to me lol Before I worked in the industry I had this belief as well. You are free to not care and ignore all of this but it matters to the actual actors. Listing Emmy or GG or Oscar wins is a way to get better contracts and paid more and it matters to them, their agents and their managers and their families. Like, nobody cares about the Clios but people in advertising and their families. You are right that fans should care about Andor by its merits but acting like it doesn't matter at all isn't reality
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Jul 16, 2025 14:52
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Acolyte might be more passable if you are able to binge it, but week after week of episodes treading water on everything just made it so much worse.
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Jul 16, 2025 15:06
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Alchenar posted:Acolyte might be more passable if you are able to binge it, but week after week of episodes treading water on everything just made it so much worse. oh yeah, if there was a week instead of 3 seconds between each ep, I'd have dropped off for sure
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Jul 16, 2025 15:13
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Tankbuster posted:The problem is that when it comes to the chinese market, these badly researched market ideas will be seen as reality. People won't even consider things like "star wars was never big in china because the movies came out when china was far more closed off." I couldn't stand the sequels and I was the prime age for kids being introduced to star wars via the prequel trilogy. Of the people who give enough of a poo poo to argue about Star Wars online and know about the difference between the US and Chinese posters, I literally haven't seen a single one argue that it was because of super Chinese racism. It's always been raised as a 'lol @ Disney for doing this (and doing gently caress all with his character and also doing a bunch of other poo poo that seems like a kneejerk response to the loudest bigots' criticisms with TLJ) while pretending to be woke'
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Jul 16, 2025 15:16
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Skeleton Crew was a cool wind for my soul and we will not speak ill of it. Agree with the rest of the assessments.
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Jul 16, 2025 15:22
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Also, I get a lot more of the hieros gamos (chemical wedding) scene between KB and Wim. KB carries a chalice and a torch on her like a little Hecate. No wonder Artemis coded Fern loves her so much.
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Jul 16, 2025 15:31
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Marsupial Ape posted:Skeleton Crew was a cool wind for my soul and we will not speak ill of it. Seemed like a cross between Clone Wars and Stranger Things and Hook Show was decent popcorn, a crispy soda with some booze in it, and maybe some pizza on the way
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Jul 16, 2025 15:52
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Acceptable.
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Jul 16, 2025 16:19
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Holy gently caress though, how is Andor so loving good. I'm on ep 7 of the first season and absolutely along for the ride. All the poo poo around Saw is loving gold, and Skarsgard is the motherfuckin man
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Jul 16, 2025 16:35
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Marsupial Ape posted:Also, I get a lot more of the hieros gamos (chemical wedding) scene between KB and Wim. KB carries a chalice and a torch on her like a little Hecate. No wonder Artemis coded Fern loves her so much. Kaybee uses her mystic lighter and sacred spoon to melt a substance that she plugs into herself to make her brain work better & overcome withdrawl. This is a secret reference to heroin.
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Jul 16, 2025 16:37
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What you are experiencing is called "soul flight". Don't forget to breathe.
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Marsupial Ape posted:What you are experiencing is called "soul flight". Don't forget to breathe. holy poo poo what a wiki page
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Kaybee uses her mystic lighter and sacred spoon to melt a substance that she plugs into herself to make her brain work better & overcome withdrawl. This is a secret reference to heroin. Honestly, that's less fraught. I am describing a ritual where a little boy pulls a phallic rod from the earth and inserts it into the mind of a dying girl. The writers knew what they were doing and Finn saying "It doesn't fit!" and KB replying "Push harder!" was unnecessary to sell the allegory.
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Santini posted:holy poo poo what a wiki page Climb, Andor!
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Marsupial Ape posted:Honestly, that's less fraught. I am describing a ritual where a little boy pulls a phallic rod from the earth and inserts it into the mind of a dying girl. The writers knew what they were doing and Finn saying "It doesn't fit!" and KB replying "Push harder!" was unnecessary to sell the allegory. Have you ever considered that the actual ancient greeks weren't doing what you are doing here? Like, some guy in a toga being all 'oh gently caress oh jjesus christ it's a torch. She's using a torch, man. This is just like in my ancient animes.' Trainspotting the references back to Egypt or whatever. It was ancient greece. They all used torches. There wasn't, like, any alternative. In the case of Hecate as a character, her use of the torch(es) is to guide or direct people, to mark places - gates, passages, alternate paths. So, like any god, she's a personification of an abstract concept, of "a guardian in/of darkness" and then people can just kind-of free associate on the concept of darkness at that point. She can protect you from spirits or unleash poisons or whatever, so you set up little figurines in and around yr house like a garden gnome. Nobody's setting up statuettes of the KB character at entranceways of their homes to ward off spirits. Nobody's using this child Star Wars character from the Goonies show to conduct fertility rituals. Or at least, I fuckin hope not!
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I said allegory, SMG. It's all visual vocabulary.
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my question was, how was the corrosion worse than the contaminants from smelting a new piece in a hole in some junkyard sand Also, are the buttons labled and we just can't see them? If you were at a console on an ISD and someone said "oh just press alt-f4" or whatever, would I have any chance of figuring it out?
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Santini posted:my question was, how was the corrosion worse than the contaminants from smelting a new piece in a hole in some junkyard sand Practically, you're right, it makes no sense. Symbolically, KB is regenerating her life by drawing it from the earth. Wim is the invigorating male principle that facilities the transfer. That's as a flat reading as I can give it.
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Marsupial Ape posted:I said allegory, SMG. It's all visual vocabulary. Well, no. Skelly Crew isn't an allegory. Or, more to the point: what do you believe it's an allegory of? (And note that I don't mean some generic concept like "growing up" and/or "moral development".) Divorced from narrative context, an object like a torch or an Excalibur carries no inherent symbolic meaning. It's 'just a torch', 'just a sword'. What matters is how the characters interpret these things. So, like, when Kaybee talks to Wim about her disability, this is part of the episode's broader focus on all the characters reaching a literal low point and then literally pulling themselves out of the junkyard by working together with renewed bonds of friendship. The replacement of the corroded fuse with a shiny, new fuse anticipates the imagery of the ship shedding its pirate skin and emerging as a pristine fancy delivery truck. And it's also not just allegorical imagery; it's literally what happens in the plot. They press a button to activate explosive bolts that jettison the armor plating. In this specific case, the narrative is Kaybee (literally) opening up to Wim and talking about how Fern's attempts at treating her as 'normal' have the opposite effect. To her, changing the fuse is normal the same as, like, needing insulin for diabetes, or an epipen to deal with an allergy. It's not erotic to this character. It's an everyday thing that her moms would have helped her with. Explaining this to Wim prepares her to discuss the issue with Fern, who she feels a deeper connection to and therefore more anxiety around confronting her. The point of the scene is also Wim's 'heroism', where he realizes that he's already a good person just by listening and acting decently while doing this impromptu medical procedure. Heroism needn't be spectacular. And is this erotic to Wim? Again... no? Maybe there's a psychosexual horror aspect where he's confronted with the gross, abject functioning of the body - literally cracking open his friend's head and seeing her brain. That's something he braves and gets over, and comes out of it understanding Kaybee better as a person moreso than as a whiz-kid nerd hacker stereotype. But it's not like, "oh yeah now they are husband and wife!" SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 16, 2025 |
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