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Marsupial Ape posted:I really think dehumanizing slave labor was used in the Death Star's construction to somehow make it 'sharper' in the Dark Side. Like a sacrifice ritual for a magical amulet. Also, more abstractly, why the Death Star has no railings. Nothing about the goddam thing can be conducive to life. I mean, it's called the death star.
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Marsupial Ape posted:It's all games within games. Sheev needed to set up the circumstances to sacrifice thousands of completely innocent plumbers and electricians. He just wishes there were a way to do it cheaper.
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Aug 29, 2025 21:13
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If someone pulls the death star laser handle and then falls into an abyss, we don't have to pay that guy anymore.
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Aug 29, 2025 21:18
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nine-gear crow posted:He just wishes there were a way to do it cheaper. I mean, that kind of profit driven thinking does lead to de facto human sacrifice. Cojawfee posted:If someone pulls the death star laser handle and then falls into an abyss, we don't have to pay that guy anymore. I was just going to make a joke about how those helmeted technicians in the laser beam tunnel died of super space cancer six hours after their shifts ended. Marsupial Ape fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 29, 2025 |
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https://bsky.app/profile/eke.bsky.social/post/3lxk2tu377k2e Edit: I don't know how attaching pictures on SA works apparently, I can't TIMG it or edit it so have this Imgur version while they're still alive. 
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https://bsky.app/profile/ianfay.bsky.social/post/3lxp5s6pcks2u Meanwhile, Bluesky users are trying to manifest the death of Trump by drawing sexy Watto pictures. Here's a compilation (Bsky video, so might need to click through).
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War and Pieces posted:Lol that the writers of Andor had to walk back Luthien being a secret Jedi because it was too obvious in season 1 the tiny brained fandom.
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Aug 31, 2025 17:54
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Luthen's line that it will always be worth more to him doesn't really make sense if it is just an artifact from a millennia old invasion.
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Aug 31, 2025 18:16
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That line's not really about the artifact, but a chance for another meeting with Andor (to tie up the loose end or convince him to come in).
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Aug 31, 2025 18:28
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Guys he’s not a secret Jedi and never was.
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Aug 31, 2025 18:46
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HootTheOwl posted:Luthen's line that it will always be worth more to him doesn't really make sense if it is just an artifact from a millennia old invasion. God forbid the writers credit the audience with enough intelligence to fill in one of any countless number of reasons he might have strong sentimental attachment to it other than him being a secret jedi
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Aug 31, 2025 18:49
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Sometimes a guy just likes a shiny rock
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I think it's plausible it's something they were tossing around and hadn't locked anything specific as far as his history until this season But yeah, it's not really like mandatory that the kyber means he is a force user or anything. I do sorta believe it was something that they had as an idea though.
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Aug 31, 2025 19:19
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In the latest Q&A with Jeff Goldsmith, Gilroy's comments around consciously not including anything to do with the force until the healer really don't track with that imo
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Aug 31, 2025 19:27
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I think there is a world where luthen had some kind of relationship with the Jedi without him being an explicit Jedi that could have been interesting. Maybe we visit his wonderful mother and see all his Jedi figures in his room. Or maybe he witnessed order 66, or one of the first big finds of his art collection was Jedi related. Tony Gilroy and co. have proven they are good enough writers that they could have done something interesting with the hints of Jedi-ness they gave in season 1 given the time. In the end they wanted to tell a story of rebellion and the Jedi as part of the failed power structure of the republic don’t fall into that.
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Aug 31, 2025 19:38
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But why? It has absolutely nothing to do with the story being told
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Vinylshadow posted:Sometimes a guy just likes a shiny rock Let him who has never felt an attachment to a rock cat the first, um, wait
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feedmyleg posted:But why? It has absolutely nothing to do with the story being told Terminal star wars brained
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Bongo Bill posted:Let him who has never felt an attachment to a rock cat the first, um, wait 
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Aug 31, 2025 20:37
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The simplest answer is that it was something valuable that Luthen had and saying it meant more to him that it was actually worth was a way to get Andor to come back and get his actual payment, like someone else said.
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I’ve said it before: We’ve met Luthen Rael. We’ve met Luthen Lear. We’ll never meet Luthen Real.
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We've all been bent by secrecy, haven't we?
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The man collected and sold antiquities. Either the circumstances under which he acquired the crystal meant something to him, or the crystal itself did. Maybe it was a gift from Kleya. It was a cute aside, not a Chekov’s Force artifact.
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Andor has made me rethink the humble tie fighter. I’ve always thought the basic tie fighter was one of the lamest looking OG SW ships. It just doesn’t look nearly as cool as an interceptor, or Vaders Tie, or a Bomber. they also just come across as useless cannon fodder in the OT. They blow up in one hit, can’t hit poo poo. But the way andor uses them for low altitude intimidation tactics like the US military does makes them actually feel menacing.
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nine-gear crow posted:The thing I liked the most about Andor was that it was a Jedi-less affair. Adding in the space wizards ironically robs it of its magic. Same with Rogue One. Rogue One actually took the bold step of letting the Force itself be a character in the movie rather than the Jedi and it's all the stronger for it. Eh, I mean Chirrut is functionally a Jedi. He’s a guy who uses the force to do cool martial arts and supernatural feats while bestowing mystic wisdom. He may not technically be a member of the organization but he does the same things.
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Gilroy has used Force users sporadically but has avoided the Jedi as a thing, which I'm happy about. We get enough Jedi and lightsabers with all other Star Wars media.
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That being said, if Gilroy ever wanted to take on a Jedi story I'm sure it would be a very compelling and enriching take on them.
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What did I sacrifice? My favorite totchky, stop asking why I have an attachment to it.
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While I'm glad Luthen wasn't some secret Jedi (I guess...), I would like to say it was entirely reasonable to wonder if he was a former Jedi, or a Padawan. Or maybe one of the first group of kids picked to be Padawans... He's clearly set up to be someone not just awesome - his cool demeanor during several firefights; his escape from the Imperial ship; his utter unflappability in all manner of tense situations. Etc. It's no stretch to imagine him as a Force user - but also experienced. It's not a strech to guess he might be a trained Force user.
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galagazombie posted:Eh, I mean Chirrut is functionally a Jedi. He’s a guy who uses the force to do cool martial arts and supernatural feats while bestowing mystic wisdom. He may not technically be a member of the organization but he does the same things. My impression is that he's not capable of manipulating the Force but he's trying to open himself to it. I'm really LOTR brained right now so I think of it as Gandalf cn actually do Magic poo poo cause he's an angel or demigod, while like Frodo doesn't know poo poo but he's trying to do the will of a higher power and poo poo just happens to work out because of it
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StashAugustine posted:My impression is that he's not capable of manipulating the Force but he's trying to open himself to it. I'm really LOTR brained right now so I think of it as Gandalf cn actually do Magic poo poo cause he's an angel or demigod, while like Frodo doesn't know poo poo but he's trying to do the will of a higher power and poo poo just happens to work out because of it Yeah, the unspoken thesis of Rogue One is that the titular Rogue One crew are all instruments of the Force and the Living Force is working through them, but the only one who truly gets that is Chirrut, who openly lets himself be a vessel for the Force across the film while not actually having any of the control that the Jedi do over it. Baze also lets himself be a vessel for the Force right before he dies too. All the main characters each get a little "Jesus, and by 'Jesus' I mean the Force, take the wheel" moment and things get nudged just enough in the right direction to knock the next domino in the chain down the path to those two torpedoes going down the exhaust shaft. It's an approach that honestly would have helped the Sequel trilogy a lot, just leaning heavily into the idea that Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo Ren, but especially Rey were all instruments of the Force and the Force didn't just awaken, it reached out and grabbed all four of them by the neck and went "Listen up, shitheads, we've got work to do." nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Sep 1, 2025 |
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redshirt posted:While I'm glad Luthen wasn't some secret Jedi (I guess...), I would like to say it was entirely reasonable to wonder if he was a former Jedi, or a Padawan. Or maybe one of the first group of kids picked to be Padawans... Yeah his spaceship literally being a double bladed red lightsaber could reasonably be taken as a big hint nine-gear crow posted:It's an approach that honestly would have helped the Sequel trilogy a lot, just leaning heavily into the idea that Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo Ren, but especially Rey were all instruments of the Force and the Force didn't just awaken, it reached out and grabbed all four of them by the neck and went "Listen up, shitheads, we've got work to do." This is basically Luke's story in ESB!
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nine-gear crow posted:
Andor really feels like it ties in better to TLJ and stuff like broom-kid rather than "you have to be one of these two magic families", yeah. Yet another thing we can add to the list of "why Duel of the Fates would have been so much better than tRoS"
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One of the reasons I didint got the jedi Luthen idea by myself first time I watched Andor S1 is because I had completely forgotten those crystals were lightsaber crystals
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Elias_Maluco posted:One of the reasons I didint got the jedi Luthen idea by myself first time I watched Andor S1 is because I had completely forgotten those crystals were lightsaber crystals
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I just have bad memory I should know that, I saw those things and that name so many times, in different stuff, movies, videogames etc
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No, sorry, turn in your membership card. Now you have to go join an intramural sports league and make friends with a group of well-adjusted people who cannot tell you what Salicious Crumb's middle initial is.
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feedmyleg posted:No, sorry, turn in your membership card. Now you have to go join an intramural sports league and make friends with a group of well-adjusted people who cannot tell you what Salicious Crumb's middle initial is. It's B! Thank God, I'm still safe.
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Elias_Maluco posted:One of the reasons I didint got the jedi Luthen idea by myself first time I watched Andor S1 is because I had completely forgotten those crystals were lightsaber crystals The lightsaber crystals are also Death Star crystals
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