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twistedmentat posted:I realized something about Resistance that's probably hurting it, it never has that point where Kaz is growing up. Ezra is a real annoying kid in the first season, but eventaully he grows up and becomes competent and mature, Kaz is still a wacky goofball after the first season. This probably won't ever happen because there's only like, a half dozen episodes left? If you included his various droids, he's basically inspector gadget
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twistedmentat posted:I realized something about Resistance that's probably hurting it, it never has that point where Kaz is growing up. Ezra is a real annoying kid in the first season, but eventaully he grows up and becomes competent and mature, Kaz is still a wacky goofball after the first season. This probably won't ever happen because there's only like, a half dozen episodes left? Ezra was never as obnoxious as Kaz, though. He was maybe naive and precocious, but Kaz is just downright obnoxious. He's a bad, slapsticky joke of a character with no real depth.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:28
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howe_sam posted:I never watched Clone Wars and it didn't hurt my appreciation of Rebels in the slightest. Yeah you did, you missed several long character arcs. I mean...Rex is front and center in Clone Wars and has a long arc where he stops being a subservient clone thay pays off in Rebels for instance, and makes his ROTJ appearance actually cool, too. Also, Saw from Clone Wars to Rogue One is kind of amusing too.
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Jan 8, 2020 04:05
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Jan 8, 2020 04:23
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filoni retroactively said that one of the guys who went with han/leia/luke to endor was rex
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Phylodox posted:Ezra was never as obnoxious as Kaz, though. He was maybe naive and precocious, but Kaz is just downright obnoxious. He's a bad, slapsticky joke of a character with no real depth. And he's so bad at everything other than being a semi competent fighter pilot. He got his entire "be a spy!" job from Poe who was impressed that he managed to land a lucky hit on a first order ace. That was his sole job qualification. It would really have been nice to see him actually become useful, but drat near everything good he's accomplished was entirely on the ball droids. The last episode I watched he did his usual idiot shtick, fell in a pit, and had to be rescued by children and cb-23 again, and just haven't been able to bring myself to catch up on the last few episodes because 
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Jan 8, 2020 04:39
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howe_sam posted:I never watched Clone Wars and it didn't hurt my appreciation of Rebels in the slightest. Every word you just said is 
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Jan 8, 2020 05:54
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Even clone wars first two seasons is mostly bad, mind
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Jan 8, 2020 09:17
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The new volume of the Star Wars main comic is set right after the end of Empire Our boy is a little down. 
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Jan 8, 2020 09:58
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The new SW series is super good, bee tee dubs.
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Jan 8, 2020 13:38
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Dawgstar posted:The new SW series is super good, bee tee dubs. You mean volume 2? New Hope to Empire? or the 2020 one ^ ?
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Risky Bisquick posted:Every word you just said is Nah. Rebels is first and foremost Ezra's story (and the rest of the crew of the Ghost to a lesser extent), not Ashoka or Rex's. You don't have to know clone wars to appreciate that, and honestly, Rebels would be a failure if you did.
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Jan 8, 2020 14:29
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howe_sam posted:Nah. Rebels is first and foremost Ezra's story (and the rest of the crew of the Ghost to a lesser extent), not Ashoka or Rex's. You don't have to know clone wars to appreciate that, and honestly, Rebels would be a failure if you did. There are a handful of instances where you'll miss a pretty effective emotional moment if you don't know the background, but overall you're right. Like, when Ashoka confronts Vader, and you know that she was his padawan and this is their first meeting since "Anakin" died, or when Ashoka sees Rex for the first time in a really long time and she hugs him. None of it really directly impacts the plot though.
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howe_sam posted:Nah. Rebels is first and foremost Ezra's story (and the rest of the crew of the Ghost to a lesser extent), not Ashoka or Rex's. You don't have to know clone wars to appreciate that, and honestly, Rebels would be a failure if you did. No one said you couldn't appreciate it without clone wars. You said it didn't hurt your appreciation of it, which is completely inaccurate, because you wouldn't know if it does until you watch it.
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The temple between worlds or whatever they called it that appears in the last??? season of rebels is directly connected to an arc that happened in cw as well ^^^ I disagree. Having the knowledge of cw would add to their appreciation, but not having wouldn't hurt it because being unaware of something, and not being aware of what you're unaware of, can't actively hurt the appreciation that you have for what you know of. Imo site fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Yea I do think there's a distinction there. At no point does the plot of Rebels require that you've seen Clone Wars, which for me is the point where you could say that not having seen CW would actually hurt your enjoyment of Rebels. It's just added icing on the cake.
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Jan 8, 2020 15:01
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site posted:The temple between worlds or whatever they called it that appears in the last??? season of rebels is directly connected to an arc that happened in cw as well I disagree, he knows it exists and he knows most people rate it higher than rebels. If watching it only raises your appriciation a few percent, it still raises it. It's a moot point anyway because homeslice ain't running off to wacth it, and i'm not his star wars sponsor.
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Jan 8, 2020 15:10
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Rocksicles posted:You mean volume 2? New Hope to Empire? or the 2020 one ^ ? The Charles Soule one that just started. The post-ANH one is... fine, I guess, but never felt particularly like it stood out. Also some of the art is downright horrible as one of the artists would literally just Photoshop the actors' heads onto bodies and it is super cringe. Also I kept hearing people say they'd steal fan designs for stuff.
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Dawgstar posted:The Charles Soule one that just started. The post-ANH one is... fine, I guess, but never felt particularly like it stood out. Yeah some was a bit basic, I stopped caring after a while. I'm keen to see that new crew on Aphra and Vader. I just threw a copy of all the series and one shots between ANH and Empire into a folder and numbered them in the correct read order, 183 issues. I'll start a new folder for the post Empire stuff. I gotta say i loved the Tarkin one shot, they made him a loving psycho.
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Aparently High Republic has been started to be mentioned in stuff recently, so good chance it will be whatever Project Luminous is.
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Rocksicles posted:most people rate it higher than rebels. Most people... are wrong.
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Jan 8, 2020 19:27
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I think TCW has higher highs and lower lows than Rebels but Rebels is way more consistent. My main issues with Rebels are that Ezra grows and matures but he’s still kinda annoying and some of the early stuff can be extremely tedious and boring until they either a) hook up with the other Rebel cells or b) start to delve into the jedi/force stuff more.
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Jan 8, 2020 19:54
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Where's the love for Clone Wars animated movie Baby Jabba?
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AndyElusive posted:Where's the love for Clone Wars animated movie Baby Jabba? Elsewhere.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:48
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I'm sure there's a long story in the thirty years between the OT & ST where Rotta comes back for revenge over Leia for killing their parent No one's cared enough to write it though
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Vinylshadow posted:I'm sure there's a long story in the thirty years between the OT & ST where Rotta comes back for revenge over Leia for killing their parent But what about Jabba's father? 
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thrawn527 posted:But what about Jabba's father? The ST should've been movie recreations of the Jedi Prince series, yes, I like this alternate timeline
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There is something seriously loving weird with Lando's movement in Rebels. He, like, undulates.
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Jan 8, 2020 23:11
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Recent ILM interview on their work on TRoS says they threw in a ton of ships into the final battle. He specifically named dropped the Fireball as being there, for as much good as that does being able to see anything anyway.
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Pollyanna posted:There is something seriously loving weird with Lando's movement in Rebels. He, like, undulates. That's because Lando is so drat smooth
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Teek posted:Recent ILM interview on their work on TRoS says they threw in a ton of ships into the final battle. He specifically named dropped the Fireball as being there, for as much good as that does being able to see anything anyway. I deff spotted a mandalorian fang in that shot
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The Colossus is there for sure.
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Pollyanna posted:There is something seriously loving weird with Lando's movement in Rebels. He, like, undulates. The puppetry is the weakest part of the animated shows--nothing seems like it has weight or momentum, and their chosen method of giving complexity to mouth movements (having the characters' jaws move from side to side as they speak) is off-putting.
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I do think there's a distinction there. At no point does the plot of Rebels require that you've seen Clone Wars, which for me is the point where you could say that not having seen CW would actually hurt your enjoyment of Rebels. It's just added icing on the cake. This sounds like a phrasing discrepancy with how people state their feelings differently. Any reason for lost enjoyment to me "hurts my enjoyment" as it takes away from what I could have had. For instance, I can still enjoy a movie knowing a twist beforehand, but I will never be able to reproduce the feeling of seeing the movie in the framework of being surprised by that twist, so that is a "loss" to me. Similarly, all the stuff held over from Clone Wars in Rebels that gave more emotional impact from the development in Clone Wars would have been the same thing. The happiness at seeing Ahsoka again would have been lost because I wouldn't care about who this lightsaber woman is.
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I was going to watch Rebels but since I have D+ and hadn't seen Clone Wars, I just decided to watch it first. It's worth the time. There's even recommended watching lists out there, but for my money just skip the droid episodes and you'll be fine.
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Dawgstar posted:I was going to watch Rebels but since I have D+ and hadn't seen Clone Wars, I just decided to watch it first. It's worth the time. There's even recommended watching lists out there, but for my money just skip the droid episodes and you'll be fine. Some of the droid episodes are fun. What I realized about Clone Wars is that the silly episodes are fun *after* you go through looking for all of the "serious" plot-centric episodes. It would have been annoying to watch weekly, which is why I never really did it; to see, like a great clones in a war hellscape with a Jedi going dark and getting them all killed saga, then jump to Jar Jar and the droids goofing around.
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The only Droid episode you should skip is A Sunny Day In The Void Everything else is at least watchable at least once Also can't wait to see what Maul mocapped by Ray Park for TCW S7 looks like
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Uh, does Ezra's hair color change at some point? Or is that just me?
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Darko posted:This sounds like a phrasing discrepancy with how people state their feelings differently. Any reason for lost enjoyment to me "hurts my enjoyment" as it takes away from what I could have had. For instance, I can still enjoy a movie knowing a twist beforehand, but I will never be able to reproduce the feeling of seeing the movie in the framework of being surprised by that twist, so that is a "loss" to me. You suck at watching things. That's fine, you can enjoy things in your own way, but your use of absolutist langauge and telling people how to enjoy things makes you very bad.
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