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Arcsquad12 posted:Or most of clone wars season 5. Just sloppy sloppy stuff that season compounded by issues that had been nagging at the show in previous seasons rearing their ugly head. Season 5 is one of the absolute best ones, though.
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I often find im alone on this but I found season 5 to be far weaker than the other seasons. It's where most of my issues with Ahsoka come to a head, namely her lack of meaningful interaction with many characters outside of Anakin Obi Wan and Rex. The whole notion that she was betrayed by a close friend in The Wrong Jedi doesn't land very well when that close friend is Barriss, who had all but vanished from the show after her two parter in season 2. I've said my part about Maul. He ended his run much, much better than he started, but his first few episodes at the end of season 4 through season 5 were pretty dire. Overall season 5 feels really rushed and compacted, with them tying together different plots that don't have much in common for the sake of contriving reasons to get characters together and resolve hanging plots as quickly as possible. Or they were giving us pointless nonsense like A Sunny Day in the Void. Most of the season just didn't do anything for me. The Onderon arc I bounced off of pretty hard, which I chalk up to my aversion to Corkie. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:23 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 15:20
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A Sunny Day in the Void was pretty good tbh. At the very least better than the other parts of that arc.
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May 11, 2020 15:23
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I will say though that my least favourite episodes are the ones that have to do with The Force, and that goes for Rebels as well. The Mortis episodes, Yoda's vision quest with Gollum Yoda and the Bendu are all episodes of can't stand. Witwer, you're a great Maul, but the Son sounds like you were channeling your inner Starkiller and put your balls in a vice to sound that whiny and petulant.
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May 11, 2020 15:26
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Those Force-centric Clone Wars episodes aren't my favorite, but they are interesting just because they're the stuff that have Lucas' fingerprints on them the most and really represent his last word on the matter.
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May 11, 2020 15:34
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I've just never found placing an organizational structure on the Force to be that interesting. Jedi and Sith and Nightsister are all constructs of sentient species, making the Balance of the Force into a literal Father/Son/Daughter dynamic or a bunch of floating space mimes being Force Guardians or the Bendu being a physical embodiment of "the middle" is just stupid. There is a lot to be said about how "the middle" side of the Force isn't an actual philosophy, but is instead a refusal to choose and just delaying the inevitable. The fault of the Force lies not in the Force itself but in the organizations that wield it. Giving the Force figures of authority not beholden to these structures just feels wrong. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:50 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 15:44
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I don't think you're supposed to take the Mortis stuff as super literal or foundational; it's more just a one-shot where Obi Wan and Anakin and Ahsoka accidentally get sucked into a CS Lewis-type Allegory Planet.
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May 11, 2020 15:52
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There's enough weird and wild ways they could explore the subject matter without using such blatantly obvious original sin allegory. Again I just feel that explaining the motivations of the Force on its own terms rather than through a person's interpretation of The Force cheapens it. Kreia wouldn't be nearly as interesting am antagonist in KOTOR 2 if her working theory that the Force was actively malevolent turned out to be true.
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General Dog posted:I don't think you're supposed to take the Mortis stuff as super literal or foundational; it's more just a one-shot where Obi Wan and Anakin and Ahsoka accidentally get sucked into a CS Lewis-type Allegory Planet. The fact that Morai, an embodiment of the Daughter, continues to hang around Ahsoka, seems to point to them still being meaningful in some way. If only for Ahsoka to potentially assume the Daughter mantle at some point.
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May 11, 2020 16:23
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Arcsquad12 posted:Kreia wouldn't be nearly as interesting am antagonist in KOTOR 2 if her working theory that the Force was actively malevolent turned out to be true. I mean she's not interesting at all, so I don't know that it matters either way. She's a well written example of that type of person, certainly, but she's a lot of words to an empty void.
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May 11, 2020 16:28
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I'm not too fussed about the Mortis arc (it's fine) but the Yoda one is great.
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Yeah that Yoda arc does pretty good work in terms of bridging PT Yoda (who frankly has a lot to answer for) and OT Yoda.
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Just to be clear I'm not trying to change people's minds on this since I'm definitely in a minority with my opinions. I have my issues with the show but it's not like I can really change how they were released or what they wanted to cover. It's simply stuff I don't care much for or stuff I think they didn't do a particularly good job exploring.
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Man, listening to Filoni go on that detailed rant to cap off the final minutes of the second episode of the Mando documentary makes me just want to see him take over everything to do with Star Wars forever. Cross-Section posted:These are dope af So dope. Do you happen to know the source?
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I understand some people are worried about Mandalorian season 2 getting hijacked by Rebels/Clone Wars but what if we just keep doing exactly that? Exclusive: ‘The Mandalorian’ Season 2 Recruits Katee Sackhoff to Play Bo-Katan in Live-Action
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AndyElusive posted:Man, listening to Filoni go on that detailed rant to cap off the final minutes of the second episode of the Mando documentary makes me just want to see him take over everything to do with Star Wars forever. This guy. He's also got some cool covers for other Star Wars media.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I understand some people are worried about Mandalorian season 2 getting hijacked by Rebels/Clone Wars but what if we just keep doing exactly that? Until I see that from something offical I will not get my hopes up.
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Yeah I've seen headlines saying that Ahsoka, Sabine, Bo-Katan, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head were all appearing. Until it's officially announced or there's pictures of them in costume on set I won't believe any of it.
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May 12, 2020 18:53
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Nobody's gonna expect the Maul reveal
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s wild that Filoni so clearly understands the series because while I do believe he understands Star Wars on a very real level he directed I think one episode of Mando and it stunk!!!! He directed 2 episodes, the pilot, and the Tatooine episode.
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Nobody post this yet? New Hot Toys Captain Rex revealed. They're going to start doing more Clone Wars stuff. https://io9.gizmodo.com/hot-toys-first-clone-wars-figure-is-incredibly-brain-br-1843422298
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I wonder if there’s any way Hot Toys would do Clone Wars Ahsoka. Maybe base it on a teenage Rosario Dawson? Looking it up, she was in Kids when she was 15 year old. I had no idea that was her.
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“Realistic” Clone Wars stuff always looks so weird to me. Especially Clones since the cg model for them barely resembles Temuera Morrison and Dee Baker sounds nothing like him, so I almost don’t even associate him with the character(s) outside of AOTC/ROTS. The General Kenobi skin in Battlefront 2 is the same way. That TCW aesthetic just doesn’t always translate well because it’s so hyper-stylized. Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 04:23 on May 13, 2020 |
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May 13, 2020 04:20
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I'm really worried about how live action Ahsoka will translate.
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I feel like the updated season 7 character model had a more human like face than her prior ones. Was that just me? Or were there just a lot of closeups on her that we hadn't seen before in prior seasons?
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Live action Shaak Ti is fuckin' horrifying so I don't think Ahsoka will be much different on that front.
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Teek posted:Nobody post this yet? New Hot Toys Captain Rex revealed. They're going to start doing more Clone Wars stuff. Now imagine him being chubby with a beard and walking around in stormtrooper armour like he poo poo his adult diaper. Stupid Rebels.
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Funky Valentine posted:Live action Shaak Ti is fuckin' horrifying so I don't think Ahsoka will be much different on that front. Shaak Ti looked pretty cool as a background character but if you saw her up close  I’m hoping the design/makeup artists really took that into consideration with Ahsoka so that Rosario doesn’t look... too alien.
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Looking at Ahsoka cosplay, seems like a mixed bag, but there are certainly some winners out there they can take inspiration from.
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Or you could end up with the wonky alien designs from the prison barge episode. Clancy Brown looked okay as a devaronian and Game of Thrones Osha was a good twilek the but the Twilek guy looked terrifying.
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Most twilek guys look terrifying.
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May 13, 2020 05:21
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The virgin Bib Fortuna versus the Chad Syndulla.
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I know it’s on par with their look in ROTJ, but the twi’leks in Mando had terrible looking headtails. It’s probably a limitation of how much crap they can stick on an actor’s head and still have it be relatively comfortable, but man there’s gotta be a material they can use that doesn’t look like a latex tube stuffed with lumpy foam.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I know it’s on par with their look in ROTJ, but the twi’leks in Mando had terrible looking headtails. It’s probably a limitation of how much crap they can stick on an actor’s head and still have it be relatively comfortable, but man there’s gotta be a material they can use that doesn’t look like a latex tube stuffed with lumpy foam. I've faith in that they are going to throw more money at making the costume props for a major character look good compared to a single-episode tertiary character.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I know it’s on par with their look in ROTJ, but the twi’leks in Mando had terrible looking headtails. It’s probably a limitation of how much crap they can stick on an actor’s head and still have it be relatively comfortable, but man there’s gotta be a material they can use that doesn’t look like a latex tube stuffed with lumpy foam. For as much CG the show used, I’m surprised they didn’t bother CGing those.
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jivjov posted:I feel like the updated season 7 character model had a more human like face than her prior ones. Was that just me? Or were there just a lot of closeups on her that we hadn't seen before in prior seasons? They did a pretty good job at splitting the difference between teen Ahsoka and Fulcrum Ahsoka. Not just her headpieces* growing in, but the proportion of her head, body and facial features all shifting around. I guess it's not a surprise that a Star War has excellent art direction and continuity, but it's one more excellent little detail. *I keep wanting to call these a "rack," like a deer, but then remember that's not the connotation anyone would think of.
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Now that you mention it, Ahsoka does have a nice rack.
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Madurai posted:They did a pretty good job at splitting the difference between teen Ahsoka and Fulcrum Ahsoka. Not just her headpieces* growing in, but the proportion of her head, body and facial features all shifting around. I guess it's not a surprise that a Star War has excellent art direction and continuity, but it's one more excellent little detail. They're called lekku.
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