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Motherfucker posted:punished skeletor Solid Skeletor Or the most deadly of them all - Venom Skeletor.
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Moon Slayer posted:I just want to point out that there's precedent for a villain with a sympathetic backstory not getting a redemption arc in a kid's show: Princess Azula. She didn't get redeemed, she had a psychotic break and her last on-screen appearance was her writhing around on the ground screaming and crying in chains and it was incredibly disturbing. Azula was a secondary villain of Avatar, to be fair. While she occasionally antagonized Aang, and even nearly killed him in the finale of the second season, she was mostly Zuko's nemesis. The finale was Aang against the Firelord, while Zuko fought Azula. I was going to say that it's hard to imagine Catra being pushed in to the background, for others to deal with while Adora takes on Hordak or something, but after this season's finale, that is actually plausible. Adora is just loving done with Catra's poo poo, so I could see her leaving Catra to Glimmer, Bow or the Princess Alliance in future because she has bigger things to deal with. And that would infuriate Catra.
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Aug 11, 2019 19:29
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tsob posted:Adora takes on Hordak or something I feel like Adora's final nemesis might end up being Light Hope with Shadow Weaver offing Catra (and probably also dying in the confrontation)
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Aug 12, 2019 02:03
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Moon Slayer posted:I just want to point out that there's precedent for a villain with a sympathetic backstory not getting a redemption arc in a kid's show: Princess Azula. She didn't get redeemed, she had a psychotic break and her last on-screen appearance was her writhing around on the ground screaming and crying in chains and it was incredibly disturbing. At least one of the creators (writers? I can't remember exactly who said it) have admitted to wanting and planning on giving her one, but it ended up not happening.
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Aug 12, 2019 02:16
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:At least one of the creators (writers? I can't remember exactly who said it) have admitted to wanting and planning on giving her one, but it ended up not happening. It was Aaron Ehasz. Apparently, by the end, they didn't know what Nickeldon was going to do with Avatar. They were juggling a live action flick (which they kept getting pushed out of more-and-more until all of their ideas and suggestions were thrown out), a possible animated movie (which became The Promise comic series), a potential sequel series, and the idea of a season 4. The last of which never made it past a single planning session of possible ways to continue the series into another season. The general idea was this: "Let's watch the world rebuild after the 100 year war, with a focus on Azula growing into a better person and redeeming herself." This never came to be as the animated movie became a comic, the live action movie being a flop, and the sequel series getting greenlit which was Legend of Korra. The idea of "what happens directly after the 100 year war" became regulated to the comics, which are still being released today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m5oEy8AFfc This is just a random video on it. Didn't watch it, but I'm sure they regurgitate all the same info from the twitter posts. Fun fact: the original post by Aaron was on April 1st so people thought it was an April Fool's joke at first. Covok fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Aug 12, 2019 |
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Aug 12, 2019 02:32
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I am thinking Catra may get the redemptive sacrifice but honestly so far I haven’t guessed any major twists.
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Aug 12, 2019 04:35
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High Warlord Zog posted:I feel like Adora's final nemesis might end up being Light Hope with Shadow Weaver offing Catra (and probably also dying in the confrontation) Jesus this is dark. This thread has gone to a dark place. It’s a kids show about finding your place in the world and being fabulous as hell while doing so. The whole gang will eventually get together to chaos dunk on Horde Prime and everything will be rainbows forever exvept shadow weaver who got pushed into a black hole
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Aug 12, 2019 06:42
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HorseLord posted:I can't really see Shadow Weaver as having any villainy at all, she just takes what side will have her. The only reason she's "Shadow Weaver" in the first place is that she attempted to defeat the hoard her own way, and suffered not only disfigurement but exile because of it. Her choice was death or Hordak at that point. Then Hordak has enough of her, she goes and crashes on Glimmer's couch, being useful and not taking up any of several telegraphed opportunities to betray them. seek therapy like seriously this is yr reaction to an animated kids show it's ok to have problems but not dealing with them is going to do even more damage to you long-term
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Aug 12, 2019 08:56
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This is a good read, especially after all the discussion in this thread: https://www.polygon.com/interviews/2019/8/8/20754982/she-ra-season-3-interview-noelle-stevenson In particular: quote:In the last few episodes, Catra makes some pretty drastic choices that further alienate her from Adora. It almost feels like she’s hit a point of no return. Can she come back from this?
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Aug 12, 2019 12:24
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Maxwell Lord posted:Catra dig up this is what happens when you overfill the litterbox they just keep going until all the litter's on the floor
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Aug 12, 2019 15:46
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Solid Skeletor But in fact, only one Skeletor is fabulous enough for this show. 
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Aug 12, 2019 16:02
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Halloween Jack posted:Skolidus Eletor. I love that movie, still have the cosmic key as my ringtone
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Aug 12, 2019 16:07
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I just read the last few pages, so I don’t know if this has been discussed or not. If it has, sorry. Did anyone else kind of get the impression from Mara’s recording that she didn’t send Etheria off into its own pocket dimension to protect Etheria from something, but to protect the galaxy from Etheria?
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Aug 12, 2019 17:44
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It's a giant magical battery, and SOMEONE just recently adapted Horde tech to run on it, I am sure it'd be fine dropped into the hands of an interstellar expansionist empire. Mara shouldn't have worried so much!
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Aug 12, 2019 17:51
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I don’t mean like someone else misusing Etheria’s power, but maybe Etheria itself having been the aggressor in the past, or maybe it being essentially a mammoth weapon of conquest.
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Aug 12, 2019 18:08
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Almost every single piece of old one's tech has been hostile when activated, so they might not have been very nice people. Or maybe whatever that disk that causes all that corruption of first one tech got neutralized when Mara pulled them into the phantom zone. At least until it got messed with by Entrapta.
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Aug 12, 2019 18:13
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SHVPS4DETH posted:seek therapy I think you should probably not try and diagnose internet strangers just because you don't like them pointing out that being mean to kids is not on the same level as world domination or genocide.
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Aug 12, 2019 18:41
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Phylodox posted:I just read the last few pages, so I don’t know if this has been discussed or not. If it has, sorry. Yeah, this is how I read that too. There's some things that don't make sense unless Etheria's the aggressor. Stuff like Mara destroying the tower thing to weaken Light Hope's capabilities, the red virus that Entrapta was messing with acting more like a "kill every enemy" switch that seems more like an Old Ones tech feature than a bug, or how Light Hope noting that Adora's emotions are making her go down the same path as Mara. My guess is that Mara's a lot like Adora and Huntara in that she's a soldier who realized the harm their side was doing and tried to make things right.
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HorseLord posted:I think you should probably not try and diagnose internet strangers just because you don't like them pointing out that being mean to kids is not on the same level as world domination or genocide. i never pretended to know what yr problems are but i know pain when i see it i'm sorry that empathy wounds you
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Aug 12, 2019 19:00
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 Rae Geiger posted this so it’s basically canon ok
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The original Scorpia had some very Divine eyeshadow, and a deep voice. I don't know if that was deliberate, or if it's just because Linda Gary was already doing 6 other voices on that show.
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amigolupus posted:Yeah, this is how I read that too. There's some things that don't make sense unless Etheria's the aggressor. Stuff like Mara destroying the tower thing to weaken Light Hope's capabilities, the red virus that Entrapta was messing with acting more like a "kill every enemy" switch that seems more like an Old Ones tech feature than a bug, or how Light Hope noting that Adora's emotions are making her go down the same path as Mara. My guess is that Mara's a lot like Adora and Huntara in that she's a soldier who realized the harm their side was doing and tried to make things right. There was a ton of stuff packed into those scenes. - The purple hologram doesn't look a thing like the sad Mara and looks/sounds like Light Hope. Might mean nothing but the red tech was easily able to take over Adora so the First Ones clearly had a control trigger if She-ra ever went berserk. - Mara was part of the first group to settle Etheria to study the magic, its not the original First Ones home so there would have to be other "First Ones" in the universe not a part of whatever was going on - Stuttering about Light Hope, a weapon of some kind, panic. Light Hope has repeatedly tried to push Adora to ignore and not care about her friends or other people and just focus on being She-ra. - Mara pulled Etheria away to keep "everyone" safe, warns of death and destruction if found, its needs to stay hidden for the good of the universe. It's almost deliberately ambiguous enough to make a case that Etheria was either the source of the destruction or so powerful that it sparked massive conflict and war over control of it. It's not even clear if Light Hope is shaping up as an antagonist or she's just a lawful neutral AI that doesn't regard using the power of Etheria as a problem for defense or attack.
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Halloween Jack posted:The original Scorpia had some very Divine eyeshadow, and a deep voice. I don't know if that was deliberate, or if it's just because Linda Gary was already doing 6 other voices on that show. I think it was literally just because yeah, her voice repertoire was stretched to its limit with how much they used her. Melendy Britt's Catra voice was similar (and hilarious) - it was pretty much just a pitchier take on her Adora voice with a bunch of random yowls and MYAAAAs thrown in, to the point where Catra sounded like she was constantly on the verge of having a stroke.
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Aug 13, 2019 02:25
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Halloween Jack posted:Skolidus Eletor. Frank Langella's Skeltor is best version of the character, its the only time Skeltor has any gravitas, menace or competence. Hell the starting point of the movie is Skeltor won. Shame the rest of the movie is a dumpster fire.
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Aug 13, 2019 05:40
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Literally the only scene of that movie I remember is when they first arrive on earth and Man At Arms somehow finds a bucket of buffalo wings or something and shares them with everyone in the good guy team. Everyone is enjoying the meal until someone asks him what they're actually eating and they all lose their minds when he tells them it's meat, because they're advanced space aliens and don't do that. So, everyone spits out the food, but Man At Arms is still happily chomping away on his chunk of fried meat with the bucket tucked under his arm.
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Aug 13, 2019 05:56
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Dangit Catra, stop making Garfield funny!
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Aug 13, 2019 08:54
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side_burned posted:Frank Langella's Skeltor is best version of the character, its the only time Skeltor has any gravitas, menace or competence. Hell the starting point of the movie is Skeltor won. Shame the rest of the movie is a dumpster fire. Best bit of trivia from that movie is that apparently Langella had an absolute blast and Skeletor is, like, his favourite role and he really wanted to do it again.
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ElBrak posted:Almost every single piece of old one's tech has been hostile when activated, so they might not have been very nice people. Or maybe whatever that disk that causes all that corruption of first one tech got neutralized when Mara pulled them into the phantom zone. At least until it got messed with by Entrapta. The old ones are pretty much Eternians though? There’s not a lot of other reasons saying a password phrase with “Grayskull” in it would turn you into a hulking musclehead. Also I’d like to take a moment to appreciate that Adora is a loveable clumsy oaf whose skill range includes “punch thing” and “get big to punch things harder.” Any time she’s called upon to engage in nuance and deception she inevitably makes the whole thing laughable 
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Chokes McGee posted:The old ones are pretty much Eternians though? There’s not a lot of other reasons saying a password phrase with “Grayskull” in it would turn you into a hulking musclehead. Eternia’s pretty much the same as Etheria, though, isn’t it? A bunch of feudal society goombuses messing around with advanced technology left behind by a precursor race.
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Phylodox posted:Best bit of trivia from that movie is that apparently Langella had an absolute blast and Skeletor is, like, his favourite role and he really wanted to do it again. He *really* likes playing a villain. Watch "Dave" if you haven't before. He was also by far the most enjoyable part of "Cutthroat Island." Can't really recommend you watch *that* one, though - even though I really, really, *really* like Geena Davis.
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Aug 13, 2019 17:51
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Cutthroat Island is a notoriously massive box office bomb, but it's not a bad movie. They spent lavishly on location shooting and practical effects, and it shows.
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Aug 13, 2019 18:19
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Phylodox posted:Best bit of trivia from that movie is that apparently Langella had an absolute blast and Skeletor is, like, his favourite role and he really wanted to do it again. Should get Langella to voice Skeletor
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Aug 13, 2019 18:44
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Moon Slayer posted:I just want to point out that there's precedent for a villain with a sympathetic backstory not getting a redemption arc in a kid's show: Princess Azula. She didn't get redeemed, she had a psychotic break and her last on-screen appearance was her writhing around on the ground screaming and crying in chains and it was incredibly disturbing. Counterpoint: I find Catra rather charming, in a deranged way, but Azula was absolutely loathsome and deserved what she got. So you can't really compare the two. At least it doesn't work with me! Edit: Azula is more like Shadow Weaver, as in both are characters which incite nothing but contempt and irritation whenever I have the bad luck to watch them on screen. 
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Aug 13, 2019 18:50
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It extremely sucks that Glimmer is stuck with World's Worst Mom now.
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So how do people of feel at the end of S3 with Adora giving Catra the "Samurai Jack," eyes? That was the highlight of the whole season for me. Just the look on Catra's face told me this was the first genuine time she was afraid of She-Ra .
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Aug 13, 2019 18:56
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ItWasMoida posted:So how do people of feel at the end of S3 with Adora giving Catra the "Samurai Jack," eyes? It loving ruled. My partner and I were whooping and hollering.
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Aug 13, 2019 18:57
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Same here. It was a hand to mouth, "OooooooOOOOoo!" moment.
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Azhais posted:Should get Langella to voice Skeletor This is the best idea, and thus can't happen.
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