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cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Labes for days posted:

My thoughts on the three episodes Iíve watched so far, which were the last three:

I will never understand this way of consuming entertainment media. It's such an unnatural way to experience a story.

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Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

cant cook creole bream posted:

I will never understand this way of consuming entertainment media. It's such an unnatural way to experience a story.

Wow itís almost like the human experience is incredibly varied and peopleís brains operate differently than yours.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Fair enough. Whatever floats your boat.
And to be honest, there are probably worse ways to watch stuff. I bet some people take shows and watch it inside out, beginning in the middle and flipping between chronological and reverse order, ending at the beginning and the end.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

I'm two minutes into the murder mystery episode and it's already one of my favorites.

:allears:

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
Horde Prime

On the one hand his vestigial side eyes make me instantly think "okay who's the mutant defect here?" but on the other hand it would cheapen Hordaks arc for Horde Prime to need to fail at his own philosophy to be owned. I dunno.

Either way though this season was a loving rollercoaster and I desperately need the finale season

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Captain Oblivious posted:

Horde Prime

On the one hand his vestigial side eyes make me instantly think "okay who's the mutant defect here?" but on the other hand it would cheapen Hordaks arc for Horde Prime to need to fail at his own philosophy to be owned. I dunno.

Either way though this season was a loving rollercoaster and I desperately need the finale season


Scorpia in the final episode though. Kenshiro walking and blowing poo poo up left and right.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

I really liked the barbarian wizard dad but Hordak, oh man Hordak though, you gave yourself a name. I can only hope he gets it back next season.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
:gas::gas::gas:

Captain Oblivious posted:

Horde Prime

On the one hand his vestigial side eyes make me instantly think "okay who's the mutant defect here?" but on the other hand it would cheapen Hordaks arc for Horde Prime to need to fail at his own philosophy to be owned. I dunno.

Either way though this season was a loving rollercoaster and I desperately need the finale season


I assumed Prime's extra eyes exist for the same reason as all of his clones - he's tried to make himself the ultimate life-form through unethical experiment after unethical experiment, with a significant failure-rate. He's probably on, like, his hundredth body by now. If he didn't have impossibly, unreachably high standards for himself, he wouldn't have turned himself into an entire hive-minded species.

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.

Finished watching the season and goddamn. My only complaint is not enough Entrapta. Otherwise, loving amazing.

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

Labes for days posted:

Wow itís almost like the human experience is incredibly varied and peopleís brains operate differently than yours.

"it's weird to watch chunks of a serial story in the wrong order"

"ugh excuse me? some of us exist outside of linear time. we have to obscure causality to cope, karen"

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Bouncer!

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
That first episode of season 4 really hit me in the gut, I've suffered the same loss as her, and when people pretend some one does/didnt exist. yeah

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Double Trouble was a delight, although I think that name is pretty silly.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

HorseLord posted:

"it's weird to watch chunks of a serial story in the wrong order"

"ugh excuse me? some of us exist outside of linear time. we have to obscure causality to cope, karen"

More like I am really only invested in this show because of Entrapta and Hordak and it was 3 am so I skipped to the first episode with her name in the synopsis, but yíall stay salty about someone on the internet doing things The Wrong Way.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I got a chuckle out of double trouble as adora with a big pompadour. Every enby I know went through a feminine aesthetic + gigantic pompadour. Not sure if that is a stereotype but it rings true.

Nerdietalk
Dec 23, 2014

holy poo poo what a season

I know we say "she can't possibly get any lower" each season but now I think Catra's hit it. She kept getting rewarded for doing despicable things and this season was all about it blowing up in her face. And Double Trouble giving her the wake up call she needed was essential. She joined up with Prime in an attempt to save her own skin, but she throws away pragmatism all the time for revenge. Having the long-term planning to actually voice a need for Glimmer works because speaking out for someone else is a genuine development for her.

But also, it did some really interesting things with Glimmer and Catra. The two of them both got the power they desperately wanted, costing them their friendships, and were finally forced to realize that their ambitions weren't worth it. Pairing them up for the fifth season is brilliant because they're way more similar than I realized. Their different approaches to Scorpia really helps seal the deal, since Glimmer can throw "she didn't betray you, she wanted to save you" in Catra's face later. This show is so loving good at creating parallels and creating/changing relationships just to see how characters interact and bounce off each others. Its incredible.

Also I'm such a sucker for villains dressed in all white pretending to be honorable while doing the most despicable poo poo. Its the BEST.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Double Trouble was in season 1, episode 8, and possibly every other episode.



I think the big takeaways from season 4 are:





and that Scorpia continues to knock it out of the park as the best princess.

Shbobdb posted:

I got a chuckle out of double trouble as adora with a big pompadour. Every enby I know went through a feminine aesthetic + gigantic pompadour. Not sure if that is a stereotype but it rings true.

Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010


Illegal Hen
Hordak blushing at the imp saying 'Entrapta!' in his voice and then tearing up when Double Trouble reveals that she didn't betray him after all was not what I expected out of these season but by god am I here for it.

She's the reason why he didn't want Horde Prime to return deep down and now he has no memory of her and I :qq:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Watching Ep1:

Wow that it an incredibly yonic waterfall.




Two minutes later, wow that is an incredibly phallic guardian serpent.




Uhhh

https://i.imgur.com/431kXpc.mp4

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Sometimes shapes are just shapes.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

The waterfall's super yonic (I thought the same thing) but I don't think the worm is phallic, really. Not framed right. It's way too bendy, too.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
Thatís a really generous definition of yonic. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Next you ll tell me none of that yonic phallic stuff is just shapes in the movie alien

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Android Blues posted:

The waterfall's super yonic (I thought the same thing) but I don't think the worm is phallic, really. Not framed right. It's way too bendy, too.

Do Lesbians think dicks are weird gross wiggly things? Find out tonight after a wrap up of this day's news.

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH
If it opens vertically it's yonic. As for the rest...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eG8RmwY25Ig

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME
Look, there's nothing phallic about having to tame the one eyed monster if you want to be queen. :colbert:

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Watching Ep1:

Wow that it an incredibly yonic waterfall.




Also this is straight out of Utena. QED

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

i would kind of love if we never saw hordak again and his entire arc is [hatches a dumbshit plan which will obviously immediate backfire on him if ever successfully executed] -> [successfully executes a dumbshit plan which will obviously immediate backfire on him if ever successfully executed] -> [his successfully executed dumbshit plan immediate backfires on him, obviously]

scorpia remains Top Princess

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Nobody is going to talk about how Kyle has gone rogue?

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Two minutes later, wow that is an incredibly phallic guardian serpent.

That's not a penis shape. You might be confusing human genitals for something you saw in a tentacle porn.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

oh but seriously I posted:

i would kind of love if we never saw catra again and her entire arc is [hatches a dumbshit plan which will obviously immediate backfire on her if ever successfully executed] -> [successfully executes a dumbshit plan which will obviously immediate backfire on her if ever successfully executed] -> [her successfully executed dumbshit plan immediate backfires on her, obviously]

scorpia remains Top Princess


:v:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

HorseLord posted:

That's not a penis shape. You might be confusing human genitals for something you saw in a tentacle porn.

Okay, sometimes the giant purple one-eyed snake monster banging away at the tunnel is just a giant purple one-eyed snake monster banging away at the tunnel.

Like this train having difficulty getting into a tunnel has no other possible meaning.

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.

I didn't get a dick vibe from the giant snake mostly because of the fins that throw the shape off. And also because it looks cute when its mouth is closed, and dicks are never cute.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
WTF? This is a show aimed at kids, especially young girls. The creators and staff are not gonna be all GIGANTIC GENITAL REFERENCES. WTF is wrong with you?

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Yeah, it's not like sex is a natural and normal part of life involved in most narratives.

And animators are known for being very G-rated at all times, they never add sexual elements to their work.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Does anyone have a screencap of Double Troubles version of Adora?

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Elephant Ambush posted:

WTF? This is a show aimed at kids, especially young girls. The creators and staff are not gonna be all GIGANTIC GENITAL REFERENCES. WTF is wrong with you?

It's surprisingly common in children's entertainment, but it usually is just the result of the animators being really horny.

This monster could have been anything, but it was a giant one-eyed snake.

There was symbolism going on, but I'm not smart enough to piece together what the allegory actually was, if it was sex on wedding night or implanting a seed in an egg to pass the torch to the next generation, but there was definitely something going on and it was intentional.

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

"Worms are basically tubes and thus easier to animate" may be one of the reasons it was a giant worm.

I mean, I'm assuming worms are easier to animate. I'm not an animator. But still.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Mordaedil posted:

It's surprisingly common in children's entertainment, but it usually is just the result of the animators being really horny.

This monster could have been anything, but it was a giant one-eyed snake.

There was symbolism going on, but I'm not smart enough to piece together what the allegory actually was, if it was sex on wedding night or implanting a seed in an egg to pass the torch to the next generation, but there was definitely something going on and it was intentional.

The quest chamber, with its hologram of Angella, is also a pseudo-tomb for the queen. The whole "entering a cave through a vertical slit in a waterfall" thing is classic return to the womb imagery, more so because Glimmer's mother is literally in there waiting for her. From this you get a dualism of womb/tomb which is real common subtext when exploring yonic spaces that are at once mystical, potentially nourishing, but dangerous and somehow forbidden or restricted. Glimmer is both returning to the site of her birth, and acknowledging the end of her childhood as she passes into adulthood. She returns to the womb so that she can confront her mother's absence, memorialise her, and then emerge reborn.

I don't think the snake is phallic at all, or at least it's not important to the metaphor. It's a hazard and a danger that must be tamed - essentially just a crisis in catabasis, the descent into the underworld, where the questant is stripped of their weapons and possessions (here, Glimmer is stripped of her ability to teleport) while confronting ghosts and demons that want to end their journey. Typically, those demons have to be reckoned with through diplomatic manners rather than combat, which is also how they defeat the serpent!

If you really wanna incorporate the phallus into the metaphor, I'd say this: the ghosts and demons in catabasis are typically casualties of less heroic journeys into the underworld, or those who died long ago and are now bitter spectres of their former selves. They're inversions of the hero, and reflections of what the hero could become if they stray from the path of heroism. So the snake is arguably an anti-example: everything Glimmer shouldn't be to survive her adulthood. Solitary, aggressive, powerful, aimlessly defending the static memory of her mother. You could map some phallic symbolism onto that, if you wanted.

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Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Also this season was really good, the best so far I think. They're finally paying off a lot of drama they spent S2 and S3 building up - and they're doing it in relatively complex, interesting ways. The rift between Glimmer and Adora is making me care more about both characters than I did when they were just uncomplicated pals, and Glimmer in particular is getting a powerfully interesting treatment that really makes her feel like a developed, complicated person.

Also, Double Trouble rules. Jacob Tobia's line deliveries are fantastically energetic.

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