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You people need to get on Hulu and watch The Confederate States of America. Edit: What a loving page snipe for a thread about a children's cartoon... 
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i heart Earth is not a good place. I need more wholesame news about Eternia
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May 12, 2020 18:27
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Oh my god these next few days are going to crawl by
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May 12, 2020 19:38
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Elephant Ambush posted:Catra's subtle reactions in that clip are awesome. Other than digging her claws in over Adora's name I very much appreciated the horrified  face.
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May 13, 2020 04:58
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Elephant Ambush posted:Which is awful misogynist "women be crazy and need to be kept in check by men" trash Although iirc it's just her doing what literally every single member of her family has done. It's more 'The rightful heir returns, oh poo poo turns out we wiped out this bloodline for a reason'.
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May 13, 2020 05:04
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tsob posted:I haven't even seen Game of Thrones, but from what I gather of them as creators it doesn't sound like they'd make the best use of it, You don’t realise what an incredible understatement this part is. It’s not so much that it would be completely impossible to make the subject matter work, but it is completely impossible that D&D could have done it.
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May 13, 2020 06:20
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Although iirc it's just her doing what literally every single member of her family has done. It's more 'The rightful heir returns, oh poo poo turns out we wiped out this bloodline for a reason'. That's not the point. The point is that every single woman in GoT gets treated horribly in a million different ways. Dany was the one woman who had a chance at dishing out justice on behalf of all those women. But nope, her character completely changes for no good reason and she goes completely crazy and has to be put down and of course the hero man is forced to do it because ugh tragedy and gosh gee willikers it sucks that men just have to destroy all these crazy women to keep the world safe. On a positive note, 2 more days! 
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May 13, 2020 15:13
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Re: Game of Thrones, I don't think the "Dany is a tyrant" plot point is impossible to deliver well, but yeah, as delivered in the show, it's literally just "woman goes crazy, Jon Snow and Tyrion sadly muse over how they both think she's a hottie and would totally do her but damnit, the nation demands a coup". That scene with Jon and Tyrion in the dungeon radiates "women are crazy, what are you gonna do" energy.
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May 13, 2020 20:53
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paradoxGentleman posted:I've heard rumors that the writers wanted to close things up quickly (on their hyper popular, money-printing series!) to focus on... A series where the South wins the American Civil War. Not sure how true that is. I believe the order of operations was "we want to wrap up GOT so we can go get that disney star wars money. btw hbo we got another show idea (the pro confederacy show) let's do that when we're done with star wars baby" -> last season of GOT airs, every single person hates it -> disney tells them to gently caress off -> ah shucks. well hey hbo lets make our show now? -> hbo tells them to gently caress off
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May 14, 2020 02:17
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Elephant Ambush posted:Oh my god these next few days are going to crawl by I just binged Life is Strange so going from that to the series end of She-ra I'm only hoping there's something happy about the ending.
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May 14, 2020 02:57
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Doctor Reynolds posted:I believe the order of operations was "we want to wrap up GOT so we can go get that disney star wars money. btw hbo we got another show idea (the pro confederacy show) let's do that when we're done with star wars baby" -> last season of GOT airs, every single person hates it -> disney tells them to gently caress off -> ah shucks. well hey hbo lets make our show now? -> hbo tells them to gently caress off You're forgetting they also signed a huge Netflix deal in there somewhere.
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May 14, 2020 07:42
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It did apparently turn out they only made passable TV because they had a massive book series to use and as soon as they had to make up their own stuff it turns out they're terrible at everything, and also they're even more blatant Hollywood nepotism cases than usual.
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May 14, 2020 08:23
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It did apparently turn out they only made passable TV because they had a massive book series to use and as soon as they had to make up their own stuff it turns out they're terrible at everything, and also they're even more blatant Hollywood nepotism cases than usual. They literally told their assistant to write an episode rather then do it themselves.
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May 14, 2020 08:36
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pentyne posted:They literally told their assistant to write an episode rather then do it themselves. That sounds like the smartest thing they did.
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May 14, 2020 08:50
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It did apparently turn out they only made passable TV because they had a massive book series to use and as soon as they had to make up their own stuff it turns out they're terrible at everything, and also they're even more blatant Hollywood nepotism cases than usual. Didn't they get guidelines from George R. R. Martin on what should happen in seasons where there was no book to act as a guide? I was under the impression the problem was more that they just got tired of making Game of Thrones and started running through events faster than was really advisable. I would assume that them being mediocre writers plays some hand in it too, even if they were compressing poo poo to get through it as fast as possible, but that's certainly what seems to be the bigger issue to my reading of things (which, again, I haven't actually seen, so only have a very superficial understanding of).
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May 14, 2020 12:46
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I was given to understand that at the very start of the show, GRRM gave them a very rough outline for the entire story. However, they were still working with GRRM for the early seasons and then at some point, I think they had creative differences with him? Like they wanted to take the story in a different direction. It's not like GRRM couldn't have stayed on board with the show when they ran out of books and consulted, but he didn't and I think he's made it pretty clear he didn't like what they ended up doing. I wouldn't assume at this point that what happened in the last few seasons is accurate to GRRM's plan for the books.
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May 14, 2020 12:49
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CuwiKhons posted:I was given to understand that at the very start of the show, GRRM gave them a very rough outline for the entire story. However, they were still working with GRRM for the early seasons and then at some point, I think they had creative differences with him? Like they wanted to take the story in a different direction. It's not like GRRM couldn't have stayed on board with the show when they ran out of books and consulted, but he didn't and I think he's made it pretty clear he didn't like what they ended up doing. I wouldn't assume at this point that what happened in the last few seasons is accurate to GRRM's plan for the books. GRRM said he didn't want to write any material that wasn't in book form, so he ducked out after Season 4.
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May 14, 2020 13:01
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https://twitter.com/dreamworksshera/status/1260333638576566272
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May 14, 2020 14:49
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Fuckin' sweet. Alarm set.
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https://twitter.com/gingerhazing/status/1157128375481200640
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May 14, 2020 23:29
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VanSandman posted:GRRM said he didn't want to write any material that wasn't in book form, so he ducked out after Season 4. He's made statements that disparage the 8th season and indicates its not similar to his planned ending. edit: Man I can't believe everyone turned out to be straight the entire time. Really played the long game before introducing Nettossa's husband. pentyne fucked around with this message at 08:14 on May 15, 2020 |
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May 14, 2020 23:39
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I didn’t plan on binging it all in one night but here we are Full series spoilers: i love winning
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May 15, 2020 14:09
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Solid season although I gotta say, I was hoping Shadow Weaver could be the final boss. Oh well... Also ENTRAPDAK LIIIIIIVES
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May 15, 2020 14:55
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I was legitimately shocked that she was never taken over by Prime, tbh Top 3 things of the season: 1) The Kiss 2) Wrong Hordak 3) Catra's Haircut
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May 15, 2020 15:32
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May 15, 2020 17:48
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Kind of a weak season but a solid finale, it really couldn't have ended better. Definitely felt like a lot was rushed to get everything/one in place for the final battle. Great writing in the last 2 episodes, they packed in everything at the end and it felt like it would never stop or let up. Mermista: *sees Hordak "So we're all just okay with this now?"
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May 15, 2020 18:06
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The near-final scene where Hordak remembers finding baby Adora was so weirdly sweet.
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May 15, 2020 18:36
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I'm sad this show is over, but I'm really glad it was made.
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May 15, 2020 20:57
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Even if it only ended up buying time I'm really glad Hordak got to choke slam Prime into THE PIT 
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May 15, 2020 22:14
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Axel Serenity posted:I'm sad this show is over, but I'm really glad it was made. It's a rather outstanding show as a whole. I read about Legend of Korra recently and that was hugely important as one of the only examples of positive queer representation in youth focused animated shows. She-ra takes that way up to including transpersons as treated just like nbd and a typical part of their society. This was a major improvement over Voltron in so many ways, from the faster pace to a tighter focus on making the relationships feel so more real and organic.
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May 15, 2020 22:18
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I'd say I can't believe Scorpia is the best princess but I already knew it. She's so good.
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pentyne posted:I read about Legend of Korra recently and that was hugely important as one of the only examples of positive queer representation in youth focused animated shows. Korra's relationship was a bit sad because you could tell it was obviously plotted in a way to be easily removed if the network didn't like it and sadly we still see that today (though more in movies than TV.) The way She-Ra handles them is so great because they're treated so normally. I especially appreciate that the relationships run the spectrum instead of it being a gay relationship only show. That really helps ground it. It enforces that all of the relationships portrayed are normal (and for the most part healthy.) Too many shows that feature exclusively one type of pairing (especially lesbian) feel like they're actually doing it for fanservice. She-Ra quite effectively avoids that pitfall.
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Episode 1 reaction: Pretty solid, establishing the new normal. Lil bits of every character to remind you who everybody is and how they behave. Good stuff, good stuff. Prime seems like a pretty OP opponent, curious how they're going to take him down. I'm going to guess somehow overwhelm his ability to 'look into' clones weakens him somehow, and Catra gets him. We'll see!
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May 16, 2020 00:36
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Korra is one of my all-time favorites, and She-Ra takes its torch to show what it could have been without the shackles of Nickelodeon. Between this series finale and today's Harley Quinn, it's been a pretty good day for television. I think what I liked about this season the most is that it was very self-aware. Stuff like "So, we're just not gonna talk about this or what?" in regards to Hordak show that the creators knew they weren't going to be able to necessarily address everything perfectly, but that they were aware of complaints viewers might have. The season is just sprinkled with them, and it's a nice touch to see a show admitting that kind of stuff to its fans even as events are happening. pentyne posted:On that note the Korra franchise is continued by one of the original creators in comic form and is ongoing, and he leaned all the way into the lesbian relationship because the 2 creators fully intended that but could only do so much on a Nick cartoon show. Oh, I definitely have Turf Wars. I love it. Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at 00:49 on May 16, 2020 |
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May 16, 2020 00:42
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I heard through the queer supernetwork that something good happened here
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Axel Serenity posted:Korra is one of my all-time favorites, and She-Ra takes its torch to show what it could have been without the shackles of Nickelodeon. On that note the Korra franchise is continued by one of the original creators in comic form and is ongoing, and he leaned all the way into the lesbian relationship because the 2 creators fully intended that but could only do so much on a Nick cartoon show. I just recalled that when the episode aired tumblr loving exploded and the wiki articles got locked down as a ton of people kept insisting there's was nothing queer about it and eventually the creators had to say "yeah, they're together now" Some good articles already out spoiling the ending but uh quote:As far back as season one, She-Ra established a queer relationship between two other princesses called Netossa and Spinnerella, while also hinting at what was to come for Adora and Catra. How dense would you have to be to "missed it"? Article also interviews Noelle, she apparently had to fight tooth and nail to get the story she wanted told and got a lot of pushback for what eventually came out. pentyne fucked around with this message at 00:57 on May 16, 2020 |
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May 16, 2020 00:46
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One thing that genuinely surprised me in a good way in the finale was after Hordak slam dunked Prime into the pit and Entrapta was super happy, then got nervous as he started laughing, I thought they were going to do the classic "Now I am in command and I shall be the actual final villain!" with Hordak. It would have been a real let down, not because Hordak's a good person because he's not, but because he's just a real downgrade as a villain from Prime. Then it was revealed that of course Prime took control of Hordak because why the hell wouldn't he? It's well established he can do that. I wouldn't call it a twist but I don't think it's what an average story would have done and I really liked it.
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pentyne posted:Article also interviews Noelle, she apparently had to fight tooth and nail to get the story she wanted told and got a lot of pushback for what eventually came out. Realistically, this isn't going to stop happening any time soon, but I'm glad the show pulled it off the way it did.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Realistically, this isn't going to stop happening any time soon, but I'm glad the show pulled it off the way it did. I found a mention of Voltron and how the writers were told point blank by execs "Shiro is here to sell toys so no" when they were trying to push their ideas to develop his character.
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Episode 2 reaction: Yeah, we get it, Entrapta is bad at people good at tech. This really didn't need to be the focus of an episode. "I reinstate my hooray!" was pretty good, though! As usual, Scorpia #1.
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