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The remake has some appeal, Naomi Watts is good and it's kinda a trip seeing Tim Roth in such a vulnerable role. But I also prefer the original over it
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I think eventually watch both, but start with the original. The original is a little sloppier, but I think the fact that you're not likely to really recognize the actors really helps the movie. They just feel like a real family being tormented. I think they is some low budget-ness that also works better in the original. Like the living room scenes in the remake where most of the games happen are well shot with dynamic lighting. But the flatter lighting of the original just makes it feel like you're in this normal living room with the overhead light on. It's definitely a movie I got more out of the second time and since they're so similar, watch the original and then go to the remake.
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May 20, 2021 03:08
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Funny Games is good but I'm not a huge fan of it simply because it is kind of a indictment against horror movies in general. Just kind of makes me pissed off which is kind of the point of the film. Its very effective.
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May 20, 2021 03:11
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Just saw In the Earth, loved it. It's definitely not as grounded as I assumed based on the marketing and the reviews I skimmed. The antagonists of the movie have very colorful personalities and there's tons of fun horror movie mistakes, like characters wandering off alone in dangerous situations or trusting strangers they shouldn't. The way it's filmed mostly in handheld close-up gives it more of an adventurous tone than an intimate or psychological one. The trip imagery is used very sparingly, but to great effect.Timeless Appeal posted:I think eventually watch both, but start with the original. It's funny you mention that because nearly all the actors in the movie previously appeared in other movies in the Haneke-verse. It adds to the intertextuality of it.
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Saying 28 Days Later isn't a zombie movie is not only the gooniest thing I have read all day, but does a disservice to 28DL as the movie that pretty much single handedly reinvented zombies into what they are today and reignited public interest (probably way too much) in a genre that was quarantined into Joe Bob Briggs midnight shows. Like, barely a single piece of media that involves zombies in the last 20 years doesn't owe at least a little to 28 Days later. Most of it owes a lot.
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Hollismason posted:Funny Games is good but I'm not a huge fan of it simply because it is kind of a indictment against horror movies in general. Just kind of makes me pissed off which is kind of the point of the film. Its very effective. It’s very effective at getting you to question your tastes and your role as the viewer in films. It’s that good kind of questioning because you gotta be introspective every once in awhile to grow. Your tastes, personality, beliefs should be things you question a fair amount in life and Funny Games can get those kinda discussions going. Especially at the point I was at in life when I first saw it (way more of a gore-hound and into shocking material), but the movie while shocking and really a punch in the face more times than not it’s fairly tame in regards to showing the actions that lead to bloodshed. Just a terrific film.
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veni veni veni posted:Saying 28 Days Later isn't a zombie movie is not only the gooniest thing I have read all day, but does a disservice to 28DL as the movie that pretty much single handedly reinvented zombies into what they are today and reignited public interest (probably way too much) in a genre that was quarantined into Joe Bob Briggs midnight shows. Like, barely a single piece of media that involves zombies in the last 20 years doesn't owe at least a little to 28 Days later. Most of it owes a lot. To be fair the director started it.
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dorium posted:It’s very effective at getting you to question your tastes and your role as the viewer in films. It’s that good kind of questioning because you gotta be introspective every once in awhile to grow. Your tastes, personality, beliefs should be things you question a fair amount in life and Funny Games can get those kinda discussions going. Especially at the point I was at in life when I first saw it (way more of a gore-hound and into shocking material), but the movie while shocking and really a punch in the face more times than not it’s fairly tame in regards to showing the actions that lead to bloodshed. Just a terrific film. I actually practice something called mindful consumption. Its basically the idea that you have to curate what kind of media you consume. Its kind of weird when I'm a huge horror fan but I do things like not watch intense films at night , not watch depressing poo poo, mostly stick to the classics of the 80s and other films. Anyway its a interesting movie because it does cause you to evaluate your consumption of media and how that impacts you. As I've gotten an older horror fan and just older in general my taste in horror has changed drastically. I've seen all the video nasties etc.. but I wouldn't watch any of that stuff now.
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dorium posted:It’s very effective at getting you to question your tastes and your role as the viewer in films. It’s that good kind of questioning because you gotta be introspective every once in awhile to grow. Your tastes, personality, beliefs should be things you question a fair amount in life and Funny Games can get those kinda discussions going. Especially at the point I was at in life when I first saw it (way more of a gore-hound and into shocking material), but the movie while shocking and really a punch in the face more times than not it’s fairly tame in regards to showing the actions that lead to bloodshed. Just a terrific film. I think "question" is really the right term for it, not just because the characters literally ask the audience questions. Liking horror is something worth being curious about. It's not clear that Haneke gives a strong judgment about whether making horror films or enjoying them is good or bad. After all, Funny Games is itself a horror movie, and Haneke's taken a lot of care to make it one of the best shot and most intense horror movies out there. If he really hated horror movies, he'd have made a bad one.
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pospysyl posted:It's funny you mention that because nearly all the actors in the movie previously appeared in other movies in the Haneke-verse. It adds to the intertextuality of it. Hollismason posted:Funny Games is good but I'm not a huge fan of it simply because it is kind of a indictment against horror movies in general. Just kind of makes me pissed off which is kind of the point of the film. Its very effective. Gonna spoil because hopefully Kvlt! is going in blind-ish. (And even if you know the broad strokes, really don't read this spoiler because you're denying yourself one of the best moments in horror) The big defining scene is when the mother kills the bad guys and they reverse the film. All fiction is based on having to watch people suffer and struggle so you can take part in their victories. Bruce Wayne's parents die so that you can see him become Batman. Rob has to go through his break ups in High Fidelity so you can see him find love in the end. Jason has to kill people so you can see the final girl win. Funny Games suggests a paradox of narrative when we claim to be on the good guys' side, but we essentially create their suffering. They wouldn't really even exist if we weren't watching after all. The movie calls us out on this paradox by making us complicit with the villains. After all, we know at some level bad stuff is going to happen. And since as far as we're concerned none of this happens if we don't participate in the fiction, why are we imagining ourselves aligned with the good guys. The rewind thusly calls us out for having our cake and eating it too. It takes away the moment of triumph that we could imagine as having been on the woman's side all along. Sad thing is my son was recently born and WELP on ever watching that again. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 20, 2021 |
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May 20, 2021 03:50
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Every single costume in Clive Barker's Underworld is physically painful to look at.
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Lurdiak posted:To be fair the director started it. Heh. I don't think I have seen that but it wouldn't surprise me either. I guess a better way to approach the question would be to ask. is the year 2002? If the answer is yes, then someone could probably make a compelling argument that it's not a zombie film. But after two decades of zombies that are basically 28 days later infected, and zombie films using a similar tone and style to 28DL, hell yeah it's a zombie film.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think eventually watch both, but start with the original. This is basically how I feel, the original just landed a little harder. I also find german to be an inherently smugger language than english and that really adds to how much I hate those smug murderous teens.
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Not a zombie movie. Dolores O'Riordan with her mouth open was a horrifying nightmare when she was still alive.
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Halloween Jack posted:Every single costume in Clive Barker's Underworld is physically painful to look at. Never heard of this movie, but apparently: quote:The film's music was produced by synthpop group Freur, which later evolved into the band Underworld, their name taken from the film's title.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Hell yeah! It's a great movie. The miniature and stop motion work are fantastic. So are the set designs. It's an expensive looking movie!
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pospysyl posted:Just saw In the Earth, loved it. Oh good, that's on the watching pile over the next few days.
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Who are some prominent horror people who have passed since October? Looking for ideas for the challenge thread
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bitterandtwisted posted:Who are some prominent horror people who have passed since October? Looking for ideas for the challenge thread I can't believe I forgot about Daria Nicolodi when I chose what to watch for that challenge. Shame on me.
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Basebf555 posted:I can't believe I forgot about Daria Nicolodi when I chose what to watch for that challenge. Shame on me. oh that's a good one. I've not seen Deep Red or Opera. Shudder has a movie called "Deep Red" with the Argento poster on the thumbnail, but it's actually some 90s sci-fi starring Michael Biehn 
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bitterandtwisted posted:oh that's a good one. I've not seen Deep Red or Opera. Make sure you watch the Director's Cut of Deep Red. It makes more sense and you get more Daria.
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I had no idea A Quiet Place 2 was happening. What could possibly be added to that story other than unnecessary monster lore?
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david_a posted:Never heard of this movie, but apparently: There's an amazing scene where the hero confronts the evil doctor, going "Did you make designer drugs? Like the ones in this vial here?" And he's like "No I swear" and they walk out of the room together. The second the hero's back is turned, the evil doctor walks into the room next door, where a few dozen of those vials of drugs are just lying around. He doesn't even wait for him to leave the building. Or close the door behind him. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:21 on May 20, 2021 |
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weekly font posted:I had no idea A Quiet Place 2 was happening. What could possibly be added to that story other than unnecessary monster lore? It seems like it's probably going to be more about actually turning the tide against the monsters and taking back the world rather than just day to day survival.
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Basebf555 posted:It seems like it's probably going to be more about actually turning the tide against the monsters and taking back the world rather than just day to day survival. Yuck.
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Good news: Fred Vogel got back to me and sold me a copy of I Am No One!
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Kvlt! posted:Good news: Fred Vogel got back to me and sold me a copy of I Am No One! the national crisis is over.
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I still need movie suggestions for the Dead and Buried requirement of the Fran Challenge for May. Horror movies where someone involved passed away in the last year. I'm already aware of Daria Nicolodi from Dario Argento films.
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Hollismason posted:I still need movie suggestions for the Dead and Buried requirement of the Fran Challenge for May. Horror movies where someone involved passed away in the last year. I'm already aware of Daria Nicolodi from Dario Argento films. Barbara Shelley, who was in some Hammer films that you've probably already seen(Quatermass and the Pit, Dracula: Prince of Darkness, a few others) and also Village of the Damned.
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Doesn't a zombie always represent more or less the same thing? The zombie is an abject figure, more often than not standing in for a group that is necessary for class society to function, but who the comfortable would rather not acknowledge. Depending on the film they might be compared to poor people, or immigrants, (usually those two though) but it's pretty much always a variation on the theme, right?. No-one really wants to be a zombie the same way they might want to become a vampire, cause it's downward social mobility. So something like Assault on Precinct 13 could fit the bill, but The Purge not so much. So a movie about a reanimated 1000 year old aristocrat who feeds on the living would be a vampire film, even if they ate brains. I realise that this might come across as contrarian.
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BonerDetective posted:Doesn't a zombie always represent more or less the same thing? The zombie is an abject figure, more often than not standing in for a group that is necessary for class society to function, but who the comfortable would rather not acknowledge. Not always. Sometimes they’re more about body horror and fear of decay/disease. Or sometimes they’re about existential fear of being nothing but a death-doll animated by physiochemical processes that give the illusion of free will. You know, real Thomas Ligotti poo poo.
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The OG Carribbean zombies represented the fears of slavery being inescapable. I can't imagine many things would be as horrific to slaves as the idea that not even death could free you from slavery. The zombie itself wasn't to be feared as they were essentially just living dead farm hands but the horror was the idea of becoming one. It's worth noting that the zombie myth spread to the US because from 1915 to 1934 the country was occupied by the US army to protect American business interests in the area.
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Drunkboxer posted:Not always. Sometimes they’re more about body horror and fear of decay/disease. Or sometimes they’re about existential fear of being nothing but a death-doll animated by physiochemical processes that give the illusion of free will. You know, real Thomas Ligotti poo poo. If you want a very different take on zombies, check out Handling the Undead by John Ajvide Lindqvist (of Let The Right One In fame). It's not a zombie apocalypse at all; the premise is that everyone in a small region of Sweden who had died in the previous year rises and the living have to figure out how to deal with their returned loved ones. The book follows a number of characters as they do this, from families regaining lost parents (and in one case, a lost child) to a woman who died only minutes before the revivification.
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Hollismason posted:I still need movie suggestions for the Dead and Buried requirement of the Fran Challenge for May. Horror movies where someone involved passed away in the last year. I'm already aware of Daria Nicolodi from Dario Argento films. David Prowse was in a handful of Hammer movies, most notably The Horror of Frankenstein.
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FreudianSlippers posted:The OG Carribbean zombies represented the fears of slavery being inescapable. I can't imagine many things would be as horrific to slaves as the idea that not even death could free you from slavery. The zombie itself wasn't to be feared as they were essentially just living dead farm hands but the horror was the idea of becoming one. And the fear the colonizer's (ie, white people in general) had that they'd get what's coming to them from the masses of people they'd oppressed.
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Hollismason posted:I still need movie suggestions for the Dead and Buried requirement of the Fran Challenge for May. Horror movies where someone involved passed away in the last year. I'm already aware of Daria Nicolodi from Dario Argento films. Charles Grodin was in Rosemary's Baby.
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It’s interesting how the default zombie movie became either siege or survival scenarios to the point where people don’t even consider other ideas when it comes up. Even Romero deviated from that by Day of the Dead. And even in siege/survival movies you get scenes that touch on other themes outside of mowing down soulless mobs of “others.” I blame video games.Jedit posted:If you want a very different take on zombies, check out Handling the Undead by John Ajvide Lindqvist (of Let The Right One In fame). It's not a zombie apocalypse at all; the premise is that everyone in a small region of Sweden who had died in the previous year rises and the living have to figure out how to deal with their returned loved ones. The book follows a number of characters as they do this, from families regaining lost parents (and in one case, a lost child) to a woman who died only minutes before the revivification. Thanks I’ll probably check that out. I finally shook off the quarantine malaise that was keeping me from reading and I’ve been easing myself back into it with horror novels. e: pospysyl posted:Charles Grodin was in Rosemary's Baby. gently caress, I didn’t know he died. Drunkboxer fucked around with this message at 18:49 on May 20, 2021 |
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