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Cacator posted:I'll always remember Common's disappointed and bewildered reaction as he read out the winner, and Sam Smith claiming he was the first gay man to win an Oscar during his speech (he wasn't) Haha I had no idea he said this
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This is a petty complaint, but we're discussing Writing on the Wall. How hard is it to write a song called Spectre? I don't even know what living daylights or moonrakers are in the context of those songs but they're still in there, so it's not like it'd be the worst word to base a song around
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Aug 20, 2019 21:42
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Andorra posted:This is a petty complaint, but we're discussing Writing on the Wall. How hard is it to write a song called Spectre? I don't even know what living daylights or moonrakers are in the context of those songs but they're still in there, so it's not like it'd be the worst word to base a song around Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mIWoLg69Y
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Aug 20, 2019 22:02
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As much as I like Radiohead’s Spectre as a Moon Shaped Pool-era track, it would have made for a pretty flaccid Bond theme. Reminds me of Pulp’s Tomorrow Never Dies/Lies - sounds great on paper but then you hear it and decide it’s maybe for the best it didn’t happen. Not that Writing On The Wall is any better. gently caress that literal noise. Also, No Time To Die is a fanfic-tier title (nice logo though, makes me think of the Richard Chopping book covers). Should have just had the bottle to call it Shatterhand, which is blatantly the arc they’re adapting. Would have had a nice sense of trilogy after Skyfall and Spectre, too.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:34
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'Writing's On The Wall' is the worst Bond theme, and that's in a musical series that includes gems like 'Moonraker' (dull) and 'Die Another Day' ( ). It never builds to anything, just drones on at the same soprorific level all the way through as if they forgot to put in a chorus. (So like the movie itself - heyoooooo!) Dropping in some ersatz John Barry strings every now and then doesn't automatically make it a Bond song.
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Aug 21, 2019 10:41
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I'm still waiting for "Property of a Lady" and "007 in New York" to be used.
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Aug 21, 2019 12:53
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Payndz posted:'Writing's On The Wall' is the worst Bond theme, and that's in a musical series that includes gems like 'Moonraker' (dull) and 'Die Another Day' ( Now now, let's not lift up Another Way to Die like that. It belongs in the dungeon with the other no good, very bad songs, thank you very much! Also, none of them hold a candle to Eric Serra's score for Goldeneye (another bad song redeemed by the fact that it is, far and away, the greatest piece of music associated with the film).
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Aug 21, 2019 17:51
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peekaboo gangster posted:Also, none of them hold a candle to Eric Serra's score for Goldeneye (another bad song redeemed by the fact that it is, far and away, the greatest piece of music associated with the film). Serra didn't write GoldenEye (the song); Bono and The Edge did.
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Aug 21, 2019 18:15
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Timby posted:Serra didn't write GoldenEye (the song); Bono and The Edge did. Ahh, my post was missing words, should have read "which is itself another bad song" - my opinion of the Brosnan themes is not exceedingly high. Dalton, on the other hand? Not a single one with a clunky theme song; something about Gladys Knight's License to Kill just does it for me every time. don't get me started on how the best theme is attached to one of the worst films, A View to a Kill. How you waste Chris Walken as a James Bond villain is beyond me.
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Aug 21, 2019 18:41
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No, Time To Die.
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Aug 21, 2019 18:43
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peekaboo gangster posted:Now now, let's not lift up Another Way to Die like that. It belongs in the dungeon with the other no good, very bad songs, thank you very much! This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl6D0iim7wU (if it doesn't queue up automatically, skip to :30)
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peekaboo gangster posted:don't get me started on how the best theme is attached to one of the worst films, A View to a Kill. How you waste Chris Walken as a James Bond villain is beyond me. Well, when you start off by having an actor who'd been trying to get out of his contract for a while, and then was horrified to learn that not only was he older than Tanya Roberts but he was older than her mother, you're kind of off to a bad start right away.
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Aug 21, 2019 18:51
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I liked View to a Kill. But I generally don't think of most Bond movies as being Actually Good, except for maybe From Russia with Love and Casino Royale, and even then it's rather debatable.
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Aug 21, 2019 20:05
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A View To A Kill manages to be a bad film that is also an enjoyable film, for the most part. That said, it's probably elevated above its true station by a great theme song, Christopher Walken, Grace Jones, having James Bond and John Steed on screen together, the fight on the Golden Gate, and Moore doing his charismatic best despite the material he's been given. Compare to another bad Bond film, Die Another Day, where Brosnan seemed to sigh every lovely quip, and the entire cast evinced nothing but contempt for what they were doing. If nobody even cares enough to camp it up properly, you're wasting your time.
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Aug 21, 2019 20:53
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Walken was wasted in the role (originally meant for Bowie), but I think Grace Jones was inspired casting and would have been a much better fit with Dalton instead of old man Moore.
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Aug 21, 2019 21:08
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The heavies are typically better than the villains anyway. I'll take Red Grant or Jaws over pretty much any main villain you can name. The villain that had me hyped the most was Christopher Lee and even he felt underutilized in the end.
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Aug 21, 2019 21:12
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Personally the Bond movies that are actually bad to me are the boring ones, like License to Kill and Spectre. I mean I'd never confuse Die Another Day for a good movie. But it involves Bond having a sword fight at Madonna's palace, North Koreans trying to turn into white people at their ice castle, an invisible car, and a death ray that will restart the Korean War. It definitely succeeds on the test of "Does this at least sound hilarious?"
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Aug 21, 2019 21:24
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Personally the Bond movies that are actually bad to me are the boring ones, like License to Kill and Spectre.  Live and Let Die really leans hard into the "Just pack it full of crazy poo poo lmao" school of Bond films, too.
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Aug 21, 2019 22:05
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Baron Samedi should have been a recurring trickster god presence throughout the Moore era, imo.
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Aug 21, 2019 23:28
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I just love that audiences loved Jaws so much they had to give him a face turn and happy ending.
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Matinee posted:Baron Samedi should have been a recurring trickster god presence throughout the Moore era, imo. Detective No. 27 posted:I just love that audiences loved Jaws so much they had to give him a face turn and happy ending.
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Aug 22, 2019 01:27
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peekaboo gangster posted:Ahh, my post was missing words, should have read "which is itself another bad song" - my opinion of the Brosnan themes is not exceedingly high. Dalton, on the other hand? Not a single one with a clunky theme song; something about Gladys Knight's License to Kill just does it for me every time. I thought the movie was okay but a lot of folks hate The World Is Not Enough while also thinking its theme is amazing. Because it is. I've never ranked the Bond themes but it's up there for me.
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Aug 22, 2019 07:13
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Basebf555 posted:The heavies are typically better than the villains anyway. I'll take Red Grant or Jaws over pretty much any main villain you can name. The villain that had me hyped the most was Christopher Lee and even he felt underutilized in the end. Out of the villains Scaramanga has the best first line.
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Aug 22, 2019 09:48
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Goldeneye's music score overall isn't too terrible with one big exception: the end credits theme, The Experience of Love. As soon as the roll starts I stop the disc immediately, every single time. I think I maybe forced my self through the credits once just to say that I did it, I hate that song so much. Plenty of Bond movie have decent end credits music too even if it was a result of shafting the artist a la Tomorrow Never Dies. I recall Living Daylights having a good one as well done by The Pretenders.
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Aug 23, 2019 03:49
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Turbinosamente posted:Goldeneye's music score overall isn't too terrible with one big exception: the end credits theme, The Experience of Love. As soon as the roll starts I stop the disc immediately, every single time. I think I maybe forced my self through the credits once just to say that I did it, I hate that song so much. I'm pretty certain that was an unused song from The Professional, Eric Serra did that one too and it sounds more similar to that score than Goldeneye's. They must have replaced it with the Sting song at the end because maybe "The Experience of Love" is a bit too much for a movie about a 12 year old girl who's in love with an emotionally stunted adult hitman?
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Aug 23, 2019 06:26
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I still think the Goldeneye score is underrated. I mean, it kicks off with the Bond theme played on kettle drums! Not all of it's great (it goes in a bit much on plinky-plonky 90s Eurosynths at times), and the movie version of the tank chase, which I don't think was written by Serra, is better than the one actually on the soundtrack album, but 'The Goldeneye Overture' and 'Run, Shoot and Jump' are both really strong action tracks. Mind you, I like the outlier scores like George Martin's Live And Let Die, Marvin Hamlisch's The Spy Who Loved Me and Bill Conti's For Your Eyes Only, so what do I know?
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I also don't think Goldeneyes' score is too bad. But thank god, they cut out "A Pleasant Drive in St.Petersburg", which was supposed to play during the tank scene. It is still on the album. Edit: and the lyrics of the title track are pretty dumb. Yeah, I know it is for a Bond movie and all that. quote:See reflections on the water You'll never know how I watched you from the shadows as a child You'll never know how it feels to be the one who's left behind You'll never know the days and the nights The tears, the tears I've cried Whose perspective is that? AstroWhale fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Aug 23, 2019 |
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Aug 23, 2019 12:03
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Snake Eater is a top 5 James Bond song and it’s not about James Bond at all!
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Aug 23, 2019 12:34
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AstroWhale posted:Whose perspective is that? By that metric the only themes that are relevant are Goldfinger and The Man With The Golden Gun. Hmm, maybe it's about time we had another theme about how bad the title villain is. Too bad we didn't get Shatterhand for Bond25.
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Aug 23, 2019 13:14
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Tonight I will finally have seen every Bond movie. This one's everyone's favourite, right?
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Aug 25, 2019 06:37
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When I was 11 yeah.
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Aug 25, 2019 08:03
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DAD has to be the only movie where the DVD looks better than the BluRay.
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Aug 25, 2019 12:10
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The Ultimate Doge posted:I'll watch the movie if she's a true female 007, i.e. she meets a guy named Max Dickwidth and suavely says "mm, is that a fact" Ha, this would be amazing, but they could go further - make neo-007 have her own b-plot. While Bond is having a rough, “Bond on the edge!!” adventure, cut off from his support networks, and getting knocked about, neo-007 is enjoying a suave, effortless, Moore-era movie where: - They casually imply she hosed Moneypenny. - She wins at Baccarat in a casino. - She seduces a hot guy with a name like Dick Hardly as the OP suggests. - Dick Hardly dies. - She takes part in implausible action scenes, quipping all the time. At the end of the film Bond is obviously going to get his job back, but they explain why the post is open by revealing that the previous 007 was promoted to 005 - also revealing that the spy code names are actually a ranking, and Bond has always only been MI6’s seventh best spy.
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Payndz posted:I still think the Goldeneye score is underrated. I mean, it kicks off with the Bond theme played on kettle drums! Not all of it's great (it goes in a bit much on plinky-plonky 90s Eurosynths at times), and the movie version of the tank chase, which I don't think was written by Serra, is better than the one actually on the soundtrack album, but 'The Goldeneye Overture' and 'Run, Shoot and Jump' are both really strong action tracks. The ski chase music from For Your Eyes Only has always been a personal favorite of mine, especially the piano bit when going down the jump ramp. And then it goes straight into a sweet disco song for the actual chase, enjoy it all here.
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Turbinosamente posted:The ski chase music from For Your Eyes Only has always been a personal favorite of mine, especially the piano bit when going down the jump ramp. And then it goes straight into a sweet disco song for the actual chase, enjoy it all here. Mine too! The rest of the soundtrack is fairly routine, but that theme is one of the most unique of all the films. Another favorite of mine is what I call "chase music" but is more officially known as "007" on the soundtracks. 007 in Thunderball e: Fixed the link.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Mine too! The rest of the soundtrack is fairly routine, but that theme is one of the most unique of all the films. Forgot all about that one, doesn't it crop up in other Connery films as well? Usually more as an action/fight moment music. But yes it's very good as well. I think I've just about run out of Bond soundtrack songs that have stuck with me, except for this one from Living Daylights. To go back to Goldeneye I tried to find a fan edit of the tank chase with the original music, but the ones on YouTube were not that great. I'm of the opinion that it was the right call to not use a Pleasant Drive in St. Petersburg, as it sounds too close to the Ferrari chase music, Ladies First. That kind of sound fits the Ferrari scene much better than the tank chase anyways. Probably one of the better bits of Goldeneye music is the often over looked teaser trailer music though its sounds pretty 90s to me now.
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New 007 is almost certainly getting killed in a mission, and that’s what brings Bond back. Either for revenge or they need a replacement
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Turbinosamente posted:Forgot all about that one, doesn't it crop up in other Connery films as well? Usually more as an action/fight moment music. But yes it's very good as well. I think I've just about run out of Bond soundtrack songs that have stuck with me, except for this one from Living Daylights. Yes it does. It first shows up in From Russia With Love and is in several of the other Connery films. A really slow version also randomly shows up in the boat chase in Moonraker. I like If There Was A Man (the love theme) from Living Daylights. It has an interesting chord progression. quote:To go back to Goldeneye I tried to find a fan edit of the tank chase with the original music, but the ones on YouTube were not that great. I'm of the opinion that it was the right call to not use a Pleasant Drive in St. Petersburg, as it sounds too close to the Ferrari chase music, Ladies First. That kind of sound fits the Ferrari scene much better than the tank chase anyways. I agree. Pleasant Drive in St. Petersburg just isn't "exciting" enough for Bond driving a tank through the middle of St. Petersburg; at least for me. Ladies First is a better fit for the mood of Bond racing Xenia.
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Basebf555 posted:The heavies are typically better than the villains anyway. I'll take Red Grant or Jaws over pretty much any main villain you can name. The villain that had me hyped the most was Christopher Lee and even he felt underutilized in the end. I still can't believe they cast basically a real life equivalent to James Bond in a James Bond movie and then only had him in the movie for like five minutes and barely had him and Bond even on screen at the same time.
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There is no good disco music.
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