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Einarr Saltyman
Oct 4, 2020



Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Both?

But let's go with war.

"Hero" has skirmishes with history background of first emperor of China, while "Red Cliff" has massive war scene but less martial arts actions with the Three Kingdoms era background.
If you prefer serial, I highly recommend "Nirvana in Fire". Martial arts, war, intrigue, politic, history all in one nice package.

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Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo


so i recently watched raised by wolves on hbo, then decided to watch prometheus and alien covenant what with them being similar ridley scott affairs. im curious if there's any other films/series worth checking out with a similar weird fever dream vibe to raised by wolves, or a similar overall vibe to ridley scott stuff like bladerunner/alien

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo


also im curious if anyone has good reccs for lovely star wars ripoffs from the late 70s/early 80s in the vein of battle beyond the stars that my friends and i can watch together and make fun of over zoom

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8



Kanine posted:

also im curious if anyone has good reccs for lovely star wars ripoffs from the late 70s/early 80s in the vein of battle beyond the stars that my friends and i can watch together and make fun of over zoom

Starcrash

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005


Buglord

Ice Pirates?

Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018


Message from Space is one that I'd say is genuinely pretty good. The later Star Wars movies actually stole stuff from it, which is interesting to see.

On the goofier end there's Galaxina, the aforementioned StarCrash, The Shape of Things to Come, and Masters of the Universe.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070413/

I haven't seen it, but this brilliant edit of clips from this film - married to a cover of Charlie's Spacer Woman by Kitland - has me fascinated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF37KvOlOng

Carl Killer Miller
Apr 28, 2007

This is the way that it all falls.
This is how I feel,
This is what I need:




Any recommendations for documentaries about weird people?

Stuff like Finders Keepers, I Think We're Alone Now, Chicken People, (sorta) The King of Kong, Polka King, The Man Who Would be King, that kind of stuff. I feel like I've rooted through most of that genre, but I also don't know anything about movies.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



So Wrong They're Right is cute. Would Resurrect Dead count?

NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.


Hell Gem

Crumb is very good if you can stomach the seedier side of it. Anybody who likes docs is probably already aware of Errol Morris’s stuff...But if not then check out

Tabloid
Dr. Death
Fast, Cheap and Out of Control

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


NObodyNOWHERE posted:

Crumb is very good if you can stomach the seedier side of it. Anybody who likes docs is probably already aware of Errol Morris’s stuff...But if not then check out

Tabloid
Dr. Death
Fast, Cheap and Out of Control

Absolutely this, especially Tabloid and Gates of Heaven.

Also American Movie and The Jinx

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...


Carl Killer Miller posted:

Any recommendations for documentaries about weird people?
herzog's probably your man: woodcarver steiner, little dieter, grizzly man, god's angry man, land of silence and darkness (kind of), dark glow of the mountains

NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.


Hell Gem

I looove Grizzly Man. Good call.

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



Carl Killer Miller posted:

Any recommendations for documentaries about weird people?

Stuff like Finders Keepers, I Think We're Alone Now, Chicken People, (sorta) The King of Kong, Polka King, The Man Who Would be King, that kind of stuff. I feel like I've rooted through most of that genre, but I also don't know anything about movies.
You may have seen some of these but I'll throw out: Tickled, Marwencol, Crazy Love, Stevie, Wisconsin Death Trip, Grey Gardens, Winnebago Man, The Wolfpack, Hands on a Hardbody

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Heavy Metal Parking Lot, too

Human Tornada
Mar 3, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.


Can't forget Zoo!

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



Human Tornada posted:

Can't forget Zoo!
Lol that's awesome. What was that doc about the family (I think Australian maybe?) who lived off the land and liked to ride around naked on horses all the time.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



King of Kong is probably too obvious but fits in with these nicely.

Allyn
Sep 4, 2007

I love Charlie from Busted!

Carl Killer Miller posted:

Any recommendations for documentaries about weird people?

Stuff like Finders Keepers, I Think We're Alone Now, Chicken People, (sorta) The King of Kong, Polka King, The Man Who Would be King, that kind of stuff. I feel like I've rooted through most of that genre, but I also don't know anything about movies.

Good chance you'll have seen some of these but:
Brother's Keeper
Beware of Mr. Baker
Vernon, Florida (somebody already covered a bunch of the other classic Morris stuff in this vein)
TV Junkie
Cutie and the Boxer
All of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends is basically exactly that. And his Louis Meets... series, too, honestly
Hell, even Catfish

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8



Darkon

TVsVeryOwn
Jan 9, 2011







Looking for some gritty spy movies with some verisimilitude ala Haywire and Ronin.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007




The John le Carré adaptations tend to be pretty low-key and grounded. I very much enjoyed Philip Seymour Hoffman's last movie, A Most Wanted Man. The Tailor of Panama is good as well. Note, you're not going to get action the way you will with the two you mentioned, though.

TVsVeryOwn
Jan 9, 2011







Sir Kodiak posted:

The John le Carré adaptations tend to be pretty low-key and grounded. I very much enjoyed Philip Seymour Hoffman's last movie, A Most Wanted Man. The Tailor of Panama is good as well. Note, you're not going to get action the way you will with the two you mentioned, though.

I probably won't miss the action scenes. I'm just trying to find some accompaniment to my playthrough of Phantom Doctrine.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007




Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy might be more on-point for that than either of the ones I mentioned, though I think the miniseries with Alec Guinness is better than the movie.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

TVsVeryOwn posted:

Looking for some gritty spy movies with some verisimilitude ala Haywire and Ronin.
Atomic Blonde, 3 Days of the Condor, The Parallax View, Bridge of Spies, The Conversation, Lust, Caution, Munich, Burn After Reading, The American.

Purple Monkey
May 5, 2014

:phone:Hello

The Ipcress File

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.


Three Days of the Condor

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Carl Killer Miller posted:

Any recommendations for documentaries about weird people?

Stuff like Finders Keepers, I Think We're Alone Now, Chicken People, (sorta) The King of Kong, Polka King, The Man Who Would be King, that kind of stuff. I feel like I've rooted through most of that genre, but I also don't know anything about movies.

Try Shut Up Little Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEDC8AluXVE

Virginia Slams
Nov 17, 2012




Carl Killer Miller posted:

Any recommendations for documentaries about weird people?

Stuff like Finders Keepers, I Think We're Alone Now, Chicken People, (sorta) The King of Kong, Polka King, The Man Who Would be King, that kind of stuff. I feel like I've rooted through most of that genre, but I also don't know anything about movies.

Pretty much any of Louis Theroux's documentaries on American culture I highly suggest, but specifically these: "Porn", "Wrestling", "UFOs", "Louis and the Nazis", "Louis Theroux: Under the Knife"

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.





Anyone have ideas for movies that are similar to Playtime and Rear Window? In that they have these big sets with different little things going on in rooms (for Rear Window's case), and the movies move from piece to piece.

I'm not looking for something that is just a series of vignettes that don't take place in close proximity, I'm thinking specifically of the shots in Rear Window where Jefferies is scanning from apartment to apartment in one shot (without cuts), or with Playtime scenes like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI2Mhlw1W1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6JE8wn8Tdc

Bonus points if its large constructed sets like in both of those movies.

FancyMike
May 7, 2007



Johnnie To and Sylvia Chang’s Office might have enough of what you’re looking for. It’s definitely got a great constructed set and is streaming on prime video in the us.

https://youtu.be/xvnM6wjBp64

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



Wes Anderson likes to do that, like the sub tour in Steve Zissou, the opening to Moonrise, or the epilogue of Fantastic Fox. However those films don't really linger on the shots like the two examples given.

Scones are Good
Mar 29, 2010


If you can vibe with 70s Godard Tout Va Bien has a good cut open set of a sausage factory during a labor strike

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help



It’s an entire block in Bed Stuy but Do the Right Thing is absolutely a collection of interconnecting stories in one setting. Also has hall of fame production design.

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.





FancyMike posted:

Johnnie To and Sylvia Chang’s Office might have enough of what you’re looking for. It’s definitely got a great constructed set and is streaming on prime video in the us.

https://youtu.be/xvnM6wjBp64

That set does look very large, and the movie seems like it has a cool premise. I'll have to check it out.


fenix down posted:

Wes Anderson likes to do that, like the sub tour in Steve Zissou, the opening to Moonrise, or the epilogue of Fantastic Fox. However those films don't really linger on the shots like the two examples given.

That's very true, I forgot about Life Aquatic there, and I've been sleeping on Moonrise Kingdom for about oh 8 years. I'll have to catch up on my Anderson.


Scones are Good posted:

If you can vibe with 70s Godard Tout Va Bien has a good cut open set of a sausage factory during a labor strike

I looked a bit of video and screenshots for it and it looks right on the money with the big open set and removed camera. I have standed enough of 60s Godard that I'll take a shot at vibing with 70s Godard.


Voodoofly posted:

It’s an entire block in Bed Stuy but Do the Right Thing is absolutely a collection of interconnecting stories in one setting. Also has hall of fame production design.

Excellent movie.

Thanks everyone for the recommendos.


I got to thinking a bit more about these movies and I think what struck me about them most is having the camera be mostly telephoto shots peering in through windows. Most movies are shot with normal or wide lenses with the camera taking the place of an observer in the room, living in the same moment as the characters. There's something more lurid and voyeuristic about having telephoto lenses where the observer is clearly removed from the characters.

So now I'm curious about movies that play up the voyeurism aspect, particularly with the camera work playing up the voyeurism aspect, where it feels like you're watching something you shouldn't be. I'm thinking of something like (the excellent) The Conversation, with the intro being a super telephoto lens spying on someone with the park, and the movie being focused around a guy whose job is to just snoop in on other people without them knowing. Anyone have any recommendations on that vein? With or without the previous criteria.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003



piratepilates posted:

So now I'm curious about movies that play up the voyeurism aspect, particularly with the camera work playing up the voyeurism aspect, where it feels like you're watching something you shouldn't be. I'm thinking of something like (the excellent) The Conversation, with the intro being a super telephoto lens spying on someone with the park, and the movie being focused around a guy whose job is to just snoop in on other people without them knowing. Anyone have any recommendations on that vein? With or without the previous criteria.

Body Double (1984) has a lot of that. Dirty Harry (1971) has some moments like that as well. Q (1982) has some brief moments IIRC. Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (1981) too.

TVsVeryOwn
Jan 9, 2011







Look (2007) is premised that every camera in it is a security camera and is maybe too voyeuristic.

SkunkDuster
Jul 15, 2005






I watched The Florida Project yesterday and really enjoyed it. I also liked KIDS, Gummo, and Requiem For A Dream. Another good one is the 1981 made for tv adaptation of The Gin Game with Hume Cronyn and Jessica Tandy. The common theme here is "slice of life" type movies that don't follow typical movie tropes and don't necessarily have happy endings or any resolution - somewhere between a documentary and movie. Is there a genre for this type of film? Any recommendations on similar films?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Maybe give the recent Shoplifters a try if you don’t mind subtitles. Also Tangerine, the previous movie from the director of The Florida Project

morestuff fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Dec 8, 2020

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NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.


Hell Gem

Some of the earlier David Gordon Green movies might work for you, particularly George Washington. Undertow is good as well. All the Real Girls is one of my favorite movies ever too and has some crossover, but thematically it may not be what you’re looking for.

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