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regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:

What are some movies where there's a faintly alluded to c-plot brewing for most of the runtime that suddenly explodes into view at the film's conclusion? The best example of this I can think of is Gangs of New York where the interpersonal rivalries are suddenly engulfed by this massive anti-draft riot that's been just under the surface until it reaches a boiling point. Joker is very similar in this regard. Once upon a time in Hollywood is another recent example. Many Cohen brothers movies are like this, although it's often several c-plots that are being juggled until they come to a head.

Interesting question. I suppose Rocky Horror fits to a degree in that Frank-n-furter isn't exactly the unquestioned, beloved leader he appears to be and there's only small hints until it becomes the climax of the movie.

The "real" ending for Clue maybe?

Psycho? (Plot A is the Janet Leigh theft, plot B is Norman Bates or maybe his mother is a murderer, plot C is that Norman Bates is the mother?)

Angel Heart? The Sixth Sense?

I feel like most of these aren't great fits. The last few especially are largely "here's a big twist / reveal at the end of the film".

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Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!


The police strike in Robocop might fit this bill.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Oh wait, That Obscure Object of Desire (also this is in my all-time top 10 and as I have excellent taste that means it is a great movie and everyone should watch it)

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



Ramrod Hotshot posted:

What are some movies where there's a faintly alluded to c-plot brewing for most of the runtime that suddenly explodes into view at the film's conclusion? The best example of this I can think of is Gangs of New York where the interpersonal rivalries are suddenly engulfed by this massive anti-draft riot that's been just under the surface until it reaches a boiling point. Joker is very similar in this regard. Once upon a time in Hollywood is another recent example. Many Cohen brothers movies are like this, although it's often several c-plots that are being juggled until they come to a head.
That's a fun idea! Looper and Annihilation come to mind.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.


Ramrod Hotshot posted:

What are some movies where there's a faintly alluded to c-plot brewing for most of the runtime that suddenly explodes into view at the film's conclusion? The best example of this I can think of is Gangs of New York where the interpersonal rivalries are suddenly engulfed by this massive anti-draft riot that's been just under the surface until it reaches a boiling point. Joker is very similar in this regard. Once upon a time in Hollywood is another recent example. Many Cohen brothers movies are like this, although it's often several c-plots that are being juggled until they come to a head.

I think Strange Days fits this bill.

corn haver
Mar 28, 2020


is there anything similar to Švankmajer's Faust out there? the stop-motion animation/puppetry isn't primarily what i'm thinking of, even though it's great. i mostly like the pastiche of theatre, opera, and literature combined with the total indifference to realism and the sense of doom. Simon of the Desert is probably the closest thing to it that I've seen, which is another favorite

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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What are some movies where the movie is much more than or very different from its reputation? I'm thinking like Rocky, where it's not a boxing movie (there's like 3 minutes of boxing in the movie), Jaws, Psycho.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019



Its maybe a stretch but From Dusk till Dawn?

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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JollyBoyJohn posted:

Its maybe a stretch but From Dusk till Dawn?

Strictly speaking, you're right because contrary to how it was experienced when it was released (I saw it opening night and knew nothing about it other than it was a QT script and directed by the Desperado director. And I was drunk and high. That was a loving ride), everyone who hasn't seen it probably knows it as that vampire movie and would probably be surprised just how straight the first half is played.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019



regulargonzalez posted:

Strictly speaking, you're right because contrary to how it was experienced when it was released (I saw it opening night and knew nothing about it other than it was a QT script and directed by the Desperado director. And I was drunk and high.

That sounds like a freaking fun time. I probably didn't see it till it was on free UK tv in the early 00's and i remember thinking nothing unusual about the vampires its hard to remember if i knew the twist already or if i was just a dumb 14 year old who wasn't paying attention but that movie is rad.

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



regulargonzalez posted:

What are some movies where the movie is much more than or very different from its reputation? I'm thinking like Rocky, where it's not a boxing movie (there's like 3 minutes of boxing in the movie), Jaws, Psycho.
The one that comes to mind for me is Brokeback Mountain. Based on the backlash, I thought it was like a softcore porno featuring 2 dudes, but really it's just a fantastic drama, with more straight bedroom scenes than otherwise. One of the best movies I've ever seen.

I guess Moonlight had this problem too. Extremely tasteful, not erotic in any way - but just the idea of something existing outside the norm is enough to cause consternation in reactionaries. Like when a certain news outlet flipped out over Wall-e being some sort of environmentalist manifesto.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I see a lot of criticism of Brokeback for its schmaltz and its "bury your gays" trope, both of which have merit. But I've also seen some backlash here for being overrated, which I don't agree with. It's a really well-made and acted melodrama that deserves much of its praise.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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JollyBoyJohn posted:

That sounds like a freaking fun time. I probably didn't see it till it was on free UK tv in the early 00's and i remember thinking nothing unusual about the vampires its hard to remember if i knew the twist already or if i was just a dumb 14 year old who wasn't paying attention but that movie is rad.

It is absolutely one of my most memorable movie going experiences. I could not process what was happening on-screen, my brain just kept saying wtf and trying to make sense of what I was seeing. Much like Clooney et al. It's too bad that after the initial shock and confusion, the actual vampire slaying stuff is kind of sub-par but those first 5 minutes of HOLY poo poo VAMPIRES?? were really something.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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fenix down posted:

The one that comes to mind for me is Brokeback Mountain. Based on the backlash, I thought it was like a softcore porno featuring 2 dudes, but really it's just a fantastic drama, with more straight bedroom scenes than otherwise. One of the best movies I've ever seen.

I guess Moonlight had this problem too. Extremely tasteful, not erotic in any way - but just the idea of something existing outside the norm is enough to cause consternation in reactionaries. Like when a certain news outlet flipped out over Wall-e being some sort of environmentalist manifesto.

Good pulls. I guess The Crying Game would fit too although I think overall it's pretty meh as a movie.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019



regulargonzalez posted:

It is absolutely one of my most memorable movie going experiences. I could not process what was happening on-screen, my brain just kept saying wtf and trying to make sense of what I was seeing. Much like Clooney et al. It's too bad that after the initial shock and confusion, the actual vampire slaying stuff is kind of sub-par but those first 5 minutes of HOLY poo poo VAMPIRES?? were really something.

Its just a great movie, great cast, memorable lines knows when to hit the accelerator, I should rewatch it again sometime its been too long.

The sequels on the other hand are utter trash and not even in a fun way

ccubed
Jul 14, 2016


regulargonzalez posted:

What are some movies where the movie is much more than or very different from its reputation? I'm thinking like Rocky, where it's not a boxing movie (there's like 3 minutes of boxing in the movie), Jaws, Psycho.

Saturday Night Fever

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



regulargonzalez posted:

What are some movies where the movie is much more than or very different from its reputation? I'm thinking like Rocky, where it's not a boxing movie (there's like 3 minutes of boxing in the movie), Jaws, Psycho.

Ghostbusters is thought of as a sci-fi action fest but it's a dry comedy.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



i think of demons posted:

is there anything similar to Švankmajer's Faust out there? the stop-motion animation/puppetry isn't primarily what i'm thinking of, even though it's great. i mostly like the pastiche of theatre, opera, and literature combined with the total indifference to realism and the sense of doom. Simon of the Desert is probably the closest thing to it that I've seen, which is another favorite

Try La Casa Lobo.

WHY BONER NOW
Mar 6, 2016



Pillbug

I'm in the mood for a movie with scenes of absolute bedlam, like monsters eating/killing/dragging away people en masse

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Any zombie movie fits the bill with a strong personal preference for [REC] (there are plenty of kills and swarming but maybe not to the extent you're looking for though).

Um, what's that Korean monster movie from 8 years ago or so

Aliens, obviously.

But none of these are really en masse per se. Maybe that Brad Pitt zombie movie? I got bored and turned it off halfway through though.

WHY BONER NOW
Mar 6, 2016



Pillbug

Those are good suggestions, though I'm a little burned out on zombie movies. I'm looking for a "my god they've broken through" kind of vibe. Aliens would be perfect, but I'm hoping to find something I haven't seen before

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



WHY BONER NOW posted:

Those are good suggestions, though I'm a little burned out on zombie movies. I'm looking for a "my god they've broken through" kind of vibe. Aliens would be perfect, but I'm hoping to find something I haven't seen before

The battle of Helm's Deep in The Two Towers qualifies. The original Assault on Precinct 13, definitely. Seven Samurai would qualify, as would The Mist. Zulu (1964, with Michael Caine) is a bit problematic, racially, but it's great.

Left-field suggestion: Cujo.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019



WHY BONER NOW posted:

I'm in the mood for a movie with scenes of absolute bedlam, like monsters eating/killing/dragging away people en masse

The Ghost and the Darkness

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.


WHY BONER NOW posted:

I'm in the mood for a movie with scenes of absolute bedlam, like monsters eating/killing/dragging away people en masse

Any of the Piranha movies.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003


Army of Darkness (it's not really a zombie movie) or maybe The Matrix Revolutions.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019



Action Jacktion posted:

Army of Darkness (it's not really a zombie movie) or maybe The Matrix Revolutions.

I was gonna say one of the Evil Dead films but I'm not really sure how they were perceived and dammit now I just want to watch Evil Dead again

Purple Monkey
May 5, 2014

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WHY BONER NOW posted:

I'm in the mood for a movie with scenes of absolute bedlam, like monsters eating/killing/dragging away people en masse

If it doesn't specifically have to be monsters then High Rise is about civilisation collapsing and reverting to law of the jungle in a tower block

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005





Demons, Demons 2, In the Mouth of Madness, Climax if you want a different spin on monsters breaking free

corn haver
Mar 28, 2020


FitFortDanga posted:

Try La Casa Lobo.
Thanks. I'm definitely interested in the modern Chilean setting and will check it out when I have a chance.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007

I'm a family man - I run a family business. This is my son and my partner, H.W.


Soiled Meat

WHY BONER NOW posted:

Those are good suggestions, though I'm a little burned out on zombie movies. I'm looking for a "my god they've broken through" kind of vibe. Aliens would be perfect, but I'm hoping to find something I haven't seen before

Mars Attacks!

War of the Worlds?

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007




It's not exactly what you're looking for, but the scenes of ape mayhem in the new Planet of the Apes trilogy are a lot of fun.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

How have I never looked at this thread before? I haven't seen a really good, capital M Movie in a while, I'm talking artistically valuable and edifying and not just good in the popcorn type of way. Looking at my criticker account (I will never switch to Letterboxd!) here's the last few movies of the type I'm talking about:

In The Mood For Love
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire
Harakiri
A Hidden Life
Parasite
First Reformed
Eyes Wide Shut

Probably very vague but just hit me with something, ideally not by the same director.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Just a list of seriousish, well-shot stuff I like from the last decade:

Timbuktu
GETT: The Trial of Viviane Amsalem
The Master
Leave No Trace
Silence
Burning
Under The Skin
The Rider

morestuff fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jul 9, 2020

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



married but discreet posted:

How have I never looked at this thread before? I haven't seen a really good, capital M Movie in a while, I'm talking artistically valuable and edifying and not just good in the popcorn type of way. Looking at my criticker account (I will never switch to Letterboxd!) here's the last few movies of the type I'm talking about :

In The Mood For Love
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire
Harakiri
A Hidden Life
Parasite
First Reformed
Eyes Wide Shut

Probably very vague but just hit me with something, ideally not by the same director.
in addition to morestuff's solid recs, here is some more stuff:

Roma, Kumiko The Treasure Hunter, Blindspotting, Never Let Me Go, The Handmaiden, Calvary,, Heaven Knows What, Jafar Panahi's Taxi

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002


married but discreet posted:

How have I never looked at this thread before? I haven't seen a really good, capital M Movie in a while, I'm talking artistically valuable and edifying and not just good in the popcorn type of way. Looking at my criticker account (I will never switch to Letterboxd!) here's the last few movies of the type I'm talking about :

In The Mood For Love
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire
Harakiri
A Hidden Life
Parasite
First Reformed
Eyes Wide Shut

Probably very vague but just hit me with something, ideally not by the same director.

Little Women

The movies everyone else has said as well, but I slept on Little Women for too long despite everyone saying how great it is and drat they were right.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

Yay those are some great recs! Seen and loved Burning, Under The Skin and The Handmaiden so I know y'all trustworthy.
Sad that Little Women isn't streaming yet but I'll definitely catch that one eventually.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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married but discreet posted:

How have I never looked at this thread before? I haven't seen a really good, capital M Movie in a while, I'm talking artistically valuable and edifying and not just good in the popcorn type of way. Looking at my criticker account (I will never switch to Letterboxd!) here's the last few movies of the type I'm talking about :

In The Mood For Love
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire
Harakiri
A Hidden Life
Parasite
First Reformed
Eyes Wide Shut

Probably very vague but just hit me with something, ideally not by the same director.

That Obscure Object of Desire

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?



Hot Rope Guy

I could use some recommendations for stuff to watch with my mam during quarantine. Stuff we've watched lately that she enoyed: The Nice Guys (she thought Gosling was hilarious), M:I Fallout, Inside Man, Collateral, Taking of Pelham 123 (the original), Open Range, Zodiac (though she wasn't happy that they didn't catch him at the end lol). Stuff she said was "ok": Fury Road, Nolan's Batman trilogy, the Bourne trilogy, Blood Diamond, 21 Bridges. Stuff she hated: Inception was the worst film she's ever seen :v:

TV wise, she also really enjoyed Elementary, Justified and Bosch, if that helps.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



Pilchenstein posted:

I could use some recommendations for stuff to watch with my mam during quarantine. Stuff we've watched lately that she enoyed: The Nice Guys (she thought Gosling was hilarious), M:I Fallout, Inside Man, Collateral, Taking of Pelham 123 (the original), Open Range, Zodiac (though she wasn't happy that they didn't catch him at the end lol). Stuff she said was "ok": Fury Road, Nolan's Batman trilogy, the Bourne trilogy, Blood Diamond, 21 Bridges. Stuff she hated: Inception was the worst film she's ever seen :v:

TV wise, she also really enjoyed Elementary, Justified and Bosch, if that helps.

The 3:10 to Yuma remake from a few years back.

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Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?



Hot Rope Guy

Timby posted:

The 3:10 to Yuma remake from a few years back.
Thanks, we started watching a box set so it'll be a week or two before we get round to this but I'll let you know if it was a hit :v:

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