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Xarn posted:TIL Seattle is in China Or Vancouver. Or Cologne.
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TheRat posted:I said it earlier today, but Fy is easily the best player in dota
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Aug 22, 2019 19:40
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Too bad LGD is destined to lose to OG
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Aug 22, 2019 19:41
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TheRat posted:I said it earlier today, but Fy is easily the best player in dota Certainly the dreamiest
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Aug 22, 2019 19:43
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Remember last year when Maybe dunked on topson for five games
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Aug 22, 2019 19:44
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Topson won mid game 3 and technically game 1 as well, although that wasn't against Maybe at all
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Aug 22, 2019 19:56
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Reality Sinner posted:Remember last year when Maybe dunked on topson for five games and then they lost 
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Aug 22, 2019 19:57
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Maybe was also playing Kunkka when Kunkka won basically every mid lane for free so idk if you can point towards him winning mid at TI as anything meaningful. When Maybe wasn't playing Kunkka, Topson was going even or beating him.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:01
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Fy god is going to beat OG so hard they won’t even get to play in the lower bracket and EG will controvertially trade RTZ for Yawar mid-TI allowing them to make it to the finals and challenge LGD in the ultimate game of dota.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:03
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ah, recreating the old ROOT gaming squad eh
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Aug 22, 2019 20:05
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Andrast posted:and then they lost Ana bigly outplayed Ame that series
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Aug 22, 2019 20:07
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Reality Sinner posted:Ana bigly outplayed Ame that series Ana outplayed everyone at TI and is doing it again
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Aug 22, 2019 20:07
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Like I'm not one of the RTZ hater guys but Ana is the player everyone thought Artour is/was going to be
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Aug 22, 2019 20:08
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Ana does not carry OG, he's just the only carry that fits Topson's playstyle. He is extremely efficient at farming and using the space that Topson creates on the map while also being able to davai with Topson when the time is right. This isn't to say that Ana isn't amazing; he's absolutely one of the best cores of all time, I just think maybe give a little more credit to the rest of the team. Topson especially never gets enough credit for the games where he carries OG to success because half the time he's dying at the same time and he's mostly making other players look amazing.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Like I'm not one of the RTZ hater guys but Ana is the player everyone thought Artour is/was going to be Artour just got Esport old. Time will take us all. And he plays old dota style. "Leave me alone for 20 minutes and let me farm" just doesn't work very well anymore.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:15
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Sampatrick posted:Ana does not carry OG, he's just the only carry that fits Topson's playstyle. He is extremely efficient at farming and using the space that Topson creates on the map while also being able to davai with Topson when the time is right. Ceb and Jerax basically have their own offlane spinoff TV show every game.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:18
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:Artour just got Esport old. Time will take us all. And he plays old dota style. "Leave me alone for 20 minutes and let me farm" just doesn't work very well anymore. It works for Ana, and k1 Hector, and lots of teams
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Aug 22, 2019 20:20
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Topson doesnt get credit because he was awful all year
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Aug 22, 2019 20:21
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Rtz is actually extremely good what are y'all talking about EG's current problems aren't huge, they mostly just come down to pretty mediocre drafts and s4 being honestly kinda bad nowadays.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:23
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Reality Sinner posted:It works for Ana, and k1 Hector, and lots of teams It always seems to me that Ana is running around team fighting 5-10 minutes earlier than Arteezy is. But that may just be my perception based on what else is going on around the game.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:23
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I'm going have a hot take and say that every player on OG is very good
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Aug 22, 2019 20:24
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Reality Sinner posted:Topson doesnt get credit because he was awful all year Pajkat and iLTW both suck and Topson is amazing
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Aug 22, 2019 20:24
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Reality Sinner posted:Topson doesnt get credit because he was awful all year It helps when your 1 doesn't get rattled and fail to make anything out of the space you create with your fuckery tbf
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Aug 22, 2019 20:27
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Ive watched enough dota to know all players are bad except BurNIng
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:Artour just got Esport old. Time will take us all. And he plays old dota style. "Leave me alone for 20 minutes and let me farm" just doesn't work very well anymore. This is literally what ana did in game 3 though
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Aug 22, 2019 20:27
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The people in this thread saying Topson was bad all year round are probably the same people who would say that Ana is a bad mid player in 2017
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Aug 22, 2019 20:33
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Reality Sinner posted:Ive watched enough dota to know all players are bad imo that antimage game against alliance at TI3 is still some of the hypest poo poo i've ever seen
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Aug 22, 2019 20:34
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EG panicked that Ceb was having too good of a game and blew their entire marginal lead trying to kill a farmed ench with hardly any magical burst damage. It's like they totally forgot that they drafted a lineup that would tear through ench at 30 minutes. Also they tried to kill Ceb like three times in a row with the exact same result each time, if they had maybe gone back to what they were doing after the first failed gank they might have been fine. Games 1 & 2 are why people think EG has the potential to win tournaments and game 3 is why they never do.
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Super Rad posted:EG panicked that Ceb was having too good of a game and blew their entire marginal lead trying to kill a farmed ench with hardly any magical burst damage. It's like they totally forgot that they drafted a lineup that would tear through ench at 30 minutes. Also they tried to kill Ceb like three times in a row with the exact same result each time, if they had maybe gone back to what they were doing after the first failed gank they might have been fine. Games 1 & 2 are why people think EG has the potential to win tournaments and game 3 is why they never do. Ench went to 3 hp during that fight where rtz died
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Aug 22, 2019 20:36
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Ana was very good but still lost mid every game. Best jungler eu.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:38
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Ana lost mid every game and then won the game because winning lanes doesn't matter
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Aug 22, 2019 20:40
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Andrast posted:I'm going have a hot take and say that every player on OG is very good They’re all at least pretty good, and they just work really well together, which in a lot of ways is more important than being technically amazing. They’ve got a great amount of synergy in play styles, and it seems personalities, as well. Ana and Jerax are both dota monsters, too, which doesn’t hurt.
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Sampatrick posted:The people in this thread saying Topson was bad all year round are probably the same people who would say that Ana is a bad mid player in 2017 Ana wasnt even the best mid on his team in 2017.
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OG's also got an almost unshakable morale, and seem to just be having the time of their lives playing together. I don't think there's another team that would tolerate their carry body blocking their support to death on the main stage at TI, but for OG, that's just a fun goof - they're there to have a good time and win games. Clip in question: https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/ctbrl2/ogs_playing_a_professional_match_at_ti/
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Ana tped mid as void right when he turned 6 to turn a teamfight. I don't think RTZ would ever do that. RTZ also doesn't get as much help as Ana. OG knows that Ana is the key, which is why magnus and tree are some of their key heroes. They play heroes who can support Ana. Ceb doesn't play any greedy offlaners, like doom or necro, for this same reason. He wants all of the space to go to Ana. EG as a team loves greedy heroes. You saw Terrorblade and Anti-mage in all three games. PPD had so much success when he was with EG because he understood this and essentially played the "6". Fly is doing the same thing which is why they are the second best team in the tournament.
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RisqueBarber posted:Fly is doing the same thing which is why they are the second best team in the tournament. lol if you think EG can beat lgd
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RisqueBarber posted:Ana tped mid as void right when he turned 6 to turn a teamfight. I don't think RTZ would ever do that. rtz literally does do this when he's not playing heroes like anti-mage
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Andrast posted:Ench went to 3 hp during that fight where rtz died Yes and they lost the game because of that fight? I think this is the second time you've mentioned this as if it were some sort of positive or a justification. (If it was someone else then its the second time its been mentioned generally.) The ench lived and the fight cost them the game. It doesn't matter how many hp the ench lived at. In fact, it doesn't even matter if the ench died, the sheer effort and overextension that EG had to put in to do so allowed them to get rolled in that crucial midgame teamfight. It was a really horrendous decision and demonstrated why EG won't win a tournament like this - their midgame calls are just not good enough. They are so highly skilled but make such bad decisions. It was a 50/50 game before that and an 85/15 game after. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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