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Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


IcePhoenix posted:

they won the grand finals 3-1 I'm not sure I'd call that barely winning

also this series is VG's bid for TI. Win and they're in, lose and they go to Quals

I mean, there were some throws and Sammy dying a ton in that last game. Idk, they beat them 2-1 upper bracket and 2-0 in groups. Like, I'm not going to say the win was entirely decided by Sammy's mom passing away but I'm not going to say that wasn't a big factor in Sammy playing really, really badly in the GFs. Regardless, I don't think Undying is bad, I just think saying that they would be much better than a bunch of the teams at this event based on their performance in League play is a bit of a reach.

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Pamela Springstein
Aug 10, 2016

just wanted to be
a happy camper



VG matched the WK Radiance timing with the Grimstroke Agh timing. what a player.

EorayMel
May 29, 2015

You got the fluffy kitty kitty!



This grimstroke is gargantuan

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/e/e1/Vo_grimstroke_grimstroke_ability3_02.mp3

IncendiaC
Sep 25, 2011


VG's pos4 grimstroke is more farmed than the VP timbersaw that was supposed to dominate the early game

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


Virtus Pro here to poo poo the bed at a major once again

Kild
Apr 24, 2010


I wonder if every starting upperbracket team making GBS threads the bed will make the next major not have this trash rear end format.

EorayMel
May 29, 2015

You got the fluffy kitty kitty!



https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/8/8c/Vo_grimstroke_grimstroke_rival_121.mp3

Pamela Springstein
Aug 10, 2016

just wanted to be
a happy camper



10/2/21 Spectre
10/1/22 Grimstroke

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





Kild posted:

I wonder if every starting upperbracket team making GBS threads the bed will make the next major not have this trash rear end format.

it's so bad lol

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


IcePhoenix posted:

it's so bad lol

its a pretty poo poo system but i dont think thats really the whole thing. alliance and aster were both getting poo poo on in scrims iirc so i dont think you can really point towards the lack of group stage as why these teams are getting destroyed. i will say that i dont really understand why theyre not just doing a ti style round robin approach but hopefully they decide to do that next year. like getting more points is already a big enough incentive to make teams want to be at the top of their league. hopefully we can switch to like, idk, dual round robin in league play, and then essentially ti style groupstage/bracket play for major, and then maybe increase DPC payouts at the major by like double while cutting DPC payouts at the leagues to maybe 75% of their current level. that would change the total count from 5400 from majors and 13800 from leagues to 10800 from majors and 10350 from leagues. performance at lan should be about equal with performance at league when it comes to qualifying for ti.

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


we root for virtus pro to help out thunder predator

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



VP just woke up

Sampatrick posted:

we root for virtus pro to help out thunder predator

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!

Fun Shoe

VP showing signs of life

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





Sampatrick posted:

we root for virtus pro to help out thunder predator

helping thunder predator also involves rooting against noping, spirit, and predator though and I don't think I can do that

EorayMel
May 29, 2015

You got the fluffy kitty kitty!



https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/7/74/Vo_ancient_apparition_appa_attack_10.mp3

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


IcePhoenix posted:

helping thunder predator also involves rooting against noping, spirit, and predator though and I don't think I can do that

noping is allowed to take thunder predator's slot. we root against nigma, vici, and spirit in this household.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





Sampatrick posted:

we root against spirit in this household.

your house loving sucks

IncendiaC
Sep 25, 2011


Has this phoenix gotten a single egg off?

game 2 is just a complete reversal of game 1

Pamela Springstein
Aug 10, 2016

just wanted to be
a happy camper



way too greedy sticking around

Pamela Springstein
Aug 10, 2016

just wanted to be
a happy camper



another game where Ursa can never fight

Jerk McJerkface
Jan 16, 2004

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Soiled Meat

IcePhoenix posted:

your house loving sucks

Agree. As long as alliance and nigma are out I'm happy. I want the EU quals to be staaaaaaacked

McSharpie
Nov 11, 2005
Hotter than Garrison Keillor, but just a little bit.

Not sure I've seen an Ursa win this major without a Magnus on the same team

RisqueBarber
Jul 10, 2005



https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1403070717831389185?s=20

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


Reality Protester posted:

another game where Ursa can never fight

hero has a 57% winrate, definitely not a weak hero. i think its just really hard to burst any of the heroes in the game and ursa really only get like 12 seconds where he can fight because bkb is so important. you can see in that last fight, your best target to burst is the centaur and then your bkb/ult run out and the fight becomes impossible. a draft win for vp here i think.

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!

Fun Shoe

Oh my god, VP was looking strong but that turnaround from Vici was amazing

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





lol VP

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


aparmenideanmonad posted:

Oh my god, VP was looking strong but that turnaround from Vici was amazing

was it amazing from vg? i feel like vp has no business going all in on that terrorblade when they know they have no more disables and he has sunder. i dont understand that commitment at all

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Holy poo poo Ori just threw away the game with that jump in

EorayMel
May 29, 2015

You got the fluffy kitty kitty!



im the chinese terrorblade not using sunder in 5 seconds of being at 20% hp against 3 healthy vp heroes

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


holy poo poo you can actually hear vp pop off after that fight lol

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


i think if wr gets aghs shard the game gets way way easier for virtus pro

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





that's a big whoops for monkey king there

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009


What is it about this patch or meta that makes games so volatile

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


false promise????

EorayMel
May 29, 2015

You got the fluffy kitty kitty!



Terrorblade the demon was born with a special power. He was stronger than all the demons in hell.

EorayMel
May 29, 2015

You got the fluffy kitty kitty!



IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





I think that was two fights in a row that monkey king wasted over half his bkb duration by getting his tree cut

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


yeah idk nightfall ruins every fight by jumping on top of a tree right in front of a vg hero and then getting stunned for a million years

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?


truly a cursed tournament format where the teams who earned a better position aren't allowed to get accustomed to officials

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IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





Sampatrick posted:

yeah idk nightfall ruins every fight by jumping on top of a tree right in front of a vg hero and then getting stunned for a million years

not just a vg hero but specifically a timbersaw

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