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RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

mater dolorosa

Nipponophile posted:

Got to make sure everyone knows Luna never had a single good person in her life except for her savior Dominic.

I might be misremembering Amelia appearing in some later flashbacks WRT the Alterist arc when it's revealed that she has the equivalent of magical breast implants, but doesn't Luna have another sister who is still slut shamed and I think showed up in said flashbacks (I think she had a nosejob? I, again, may be misremembering) and is said to be kinda a jerk, but kind of just the whole sort of 'bitchy sister I didn't get along with' rather than 'actively a murderer and terrible person.'

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Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Ague Proof posted:

Is this some sick foreshadowing?

Really, the better question is 'is this what Mookie thinks sex noises sound like'

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747


RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I might be misremembering Amelia appearing in some later flashbacks WRT the Alterist arc when it's revealed that she has the equivalent of magical breast implants, but doesn't Luna have another sister who is still slut shamed and I think showed up in said flashbacks (I think she had a nosejob? I, again, may be misremembering) and is said to be kinda a jerk, but kind of just the whole sort of 'bitchy sister I didn't get along with' rather than 'actively a murderer and terrible person.'

Funny, I think the third Travoria sister is an assassin or bounty hunter or something like that. Don't really remember it, though.


Mors Rattus posted:

Really, the better question is 'is this what Mookie thinks sex noises sound like'

It's no Wilhelm schlorp, that's for sure.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

Zerilan posted:

Also, since someone asked about visions vs second sight and if the difference is talked about : Second sight is a branch of magic that anyone can learn, and a seer is a person who can use it. Being able to passively receive visions is an innate ability, and someone with that power is an Oracle. Celesto doesn't receive visions, so he is a seer and not an oracle. It's only really elaborated on as a means of stating another way in that Celesto is inferior to Dominic.

But Celesto got the dream vision and presumedly the random vision that led him to Erossus in the first place, didn't he?

This whole arc is disgusting and I hate it. The whole thing reeks of Mookie's barely veiled fetishes and ignorance, I never knew that Bumper played an extended role as this white woman's boy toy and that Mookie has her literally say "Aaah, a black man who steals? Pinning a murder on him will be easy!"

Zerilan posted:




and a bewitched Bumper disowns him. He's going to be sacrificed to Szark in the morning in a duel.

It was just established that Szark thinks his duels are with consenting opponents and legal under Callan law. Then he and Dominic watch as Stunt is forced into a duel to the death against his will and haven't a drat thing to say about it. THEN Dominic learns all the duels to the death are with people who were forced into it against their will! Oh no! The memory of the previous strip crumbles into dust as soon as Mookie starts the next one.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Ague Proof posted:

Is this some sick foreshadowing?
Mookie doesn't, by his own admission, plot far enough ahead to really do foreshadowing, they're just watching Celesto and Whatshername have kinky sex.

Spookyelectric
Jul 5, 2007

Who's there?


Skimming, I read the dialog in the first panel as: “Where are you going? We’re badly drawn.”

And I was like, “You got that right Luna.”

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

mater dolorosa

Spookyelectric posted:

Skimming, I read the dialog in the first panel as: “Where are you going? We’re badly drawn.”

And I was like, “You got that right Luna.”

Oh good, I thought I was the only one that kept doing that.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything


Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:



Grimey Drawer

I honestly glazed over a lot of that last post because drat this arc is lovely.

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


H’okay, I remembered that Bumper was fantasy black, but... Somehow the whole thing about Amelia explicitly saying that she was going to pin it on the black guy completely slipped my mind. And him being raped via mind control.

What the gently caress, Mookie?!

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009




The best part is that we know he doesn't plan ahead at all so one day he might've just drawn Bumper in that room and the next remembered that he was black and decided on this plotline- Mookie's version of a "happy coincidence".

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006



Bumper probably wasn't even black until that moment.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

He absolutely decided racism would make his story edgy and deep in this moment, but probably a bit before that page. Stunt and Bumper had no good reason to go to Erossus but twisted themselves into knots to justify it cause Mookie needed Bumper to get mind controlled. Why would Stunt even think his cousin likes him since he'd know that Stunt murdered his aunt.

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Oct 25, 2007

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TheHan posted:

He absolutely decided racism would make his story edgy and deep in this moment, but probably a bit before that page. Stunt and Bumper had no good reason to go to Erossus but twisted themselves into knots to justify it cause Mookie needed Bumper to get mind controlled. Why would Stunt even think his cousin likes him since he'd know that Stunt murdered his aunt.

Stunt isn't will have murdered his aunt yet.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

Oh right Stunt just has an absurd hatred of women right now, Mookie doesn’t try to “justify” it for years. With every new chapter and page I step on the “Mookie doesn’t think ahead” rake, I just can’t wrap my head around the way he thinks.

Edit: and y’now it wouldn’t even be that bad. Dragonball Z and Red vs Blue will at least try and tie retcons to previous events in the series (with varying degrees of success), and they do it in a way that fans can see patterns where originally there were none and rationalize new developments. The way Mookie retcons it’s like he’s never even read Dominic Deegan.

TheHan fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Sep 13, 2020

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

Right in the Kokoro



It's not super clear at this moment though you can infer from Semashi but, Bumper isn't black. He's fantasy non-specific Not!Middle Eastern.

Which in no way makes it better but there ya go. :shepface:

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


I forget, is he also the only character that’s explicitly said/shown to be a POC in the strip for a long, long time? Because hoo boy, making the only non-white character a thief and raging misogynist has a load of unfortunate implications in and of itself.

Heliotrope
Aug 17, 2007

You're fucking subhuman


Regalingualius posted:

I forget, is he also the only character that’s explicitly said/shown to be a POC in the strip for a long, long time? Because hoo boy, making the only non-white character a thief and raging misogynist has a load of unfortunate implications in and of itself.

The misogynist is the other guy, Stunt. But yeah, I think Bumper is the only POC for a while. I can't actually remember if there are any others off the top of my head.

Invisible Clergy
Sep 25, 2015

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Malachi 2:3


TheHan posted:

Oh right Stunt just has an absurd hatred of women right now, Mookie doesn’t try to “justify” it for years. With every new chapter and page I step on the “Mookie doesn’t think ahead” rake, I just can’t wrap my head around the way he thinks.
In contrast to how Siegfried is vilified later, Stunt is heroified later and is dragged... out of the mud. It's bad too.


Mors Rattus posted:

Stunt isn't will have murdered his aunt yet.
Mookie tense.

Zerilan posted:

Also, since someone asked about visions vs second sight and if the difference is talked about : Second sight is a branch of magic that anyone can learn, and a seer is a person who can use it. Being able to passively receive visions is an innate ability, and someone with that power is an Oracle. Celesto doesn't receive visions, so he is a seer and not an oracle. It's only really elaborated on as a means of stating another way in that Celesto is inferior to Dominic.

TheHan posted:

But Celesto got the dream vision and presumedly the random vision that led him to Erossus in the first place, didn't he?
He did, he did.

Mors Rattus posted:

Really, the better question is 'is this what Mookie thinks sex noises sound like'
Given Mookie's proclivity for snuff porn, this somehow isn't surprising.

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I might be misremembering Amelia appearing in some later flashbacks WRT the Alterist arc when it's revealed that she has the equivalent of magical breast implants, but doesn't Luna have another sister who is still slut shamed and I think showed up in said flashbacks (I think she had a nosejob? I, again, may be misremembering) and is said to be kinda a jerk, but kind of just the whole sort of 'bitchy sister I didn't get along with' rather than 'actively a murderer and terrible person.'
Luna has an inexhaustible supply of evil caricatures to serve as sisters, like a misogynistic pool of officer Jennys. I think this was one of her other sisters.

GrossMurpel posted:

:same:
What's with the "he was an awful person anyway" in the middle there with no relation to anything?
It's another mask of flaw scrubbing. It isn't a big deal that Luna lost her father

Pyrotoad posted:

Seconding that Touga guess, if only to point out that if it is Touga that Szark is based off of then he has either only watched the first couple episodes, or severely misunderstood Touga, and I genuinely hope it's the former because if Szark was his interpretation of Touga's character after watching the whole series then :stonk:
Given Mookie's values, I think the second is more likely. If this is your first readthrough, you'll see more later.

Captain Oblivious posted:

It's not super clear at this moment though you can infer from Semashi but, Bumper isn't black. He's fantasy non-specific Not!Middle Eastern.

Which in no way makes it better but there ya go. :shepface:
This is only introduced far later. They have middle eastern architecture and clothing but Italian names and names for social roles so are a dumping ground for all nonwhite traits. They are drawn with black skin though, which is why people are saying that. Just talking about physical appearance

Heliotrope posted:

The misogynist is the other guy, Stunt. But yeah, I think Bumper is the only POC for a while. I can't actually remember if there are any others off the top of my head.
Bumper is the only one in the whole comic I remember who isn't white.

Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 13, 2020

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747


Invisible Clergy posted:

This is only introduced far later. They have middle eastern architecture and clothing but Italian names and names for social roles so are a dumping ground for all nonwhite traits.

From time to time I'm reminded Americans do not consider Italians and Spanish people to be white.

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Cat Mattress posted:

From time to time I'm reminded Americans do not consider Italians and Spanish people to be white.

Conditionally white, whiteness in America has gradations.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

Right in the Kokoro



Cat Mattress posted:

From time to time I'm reminded Americans do not consider Italians and Spanish people to be white.

Spain and Italy being liminally white is not a uniquely American phenomenon friend. That poo poo, especially for Spain, is hundreds of years old and pre-dates America.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

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Captain Oblivious posted:

Spain and Italy being liminally white is not a uniquely American phenomenon friend. That poo poo, especially for Spain, is hundreds of years old and pre-dates America.

This is the truth. Race is an unstable social construct and whiteness, especially, traces back through weird Christian identity stuff in the Middle Ages, and wasn’t a consistent or monolithic category until more recently when it was necessary to explain why European Empires = good, despite their actions being transparently bad. Like slavery!

And the borders of whiteness have fluctuated; whiteness is a bullshit category even more than most other racial categories, because it’s always been defined as the top of a hierarchy.

Roleplaying Larry
Dec 5, 2008


Invisible Clergy posted:

Bumper is the only one in the whole comic I remember who isn't white.

Orcs are green

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747


Joe Slowboat posted:

This is the truth. Race is an unstable social construct and whiteness, especially, traces back through weird Christian identity stuff in the Middle Ages, and wasn’t a consistent or monolithic category

There was no concept of whiteness at all in the Middle Ages. There was just Christendom and Heathens.

The modern concept of racial identity was created by the Spanish after they discovered America, and then appropriated by the English who decided that white people were defined by being either Anglo or Saxon, while everyone else from Sweden to Italy and from Ireland to Russia was of a swarthy complexion.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements





Cat Mattress posted:

There was no concept of whiteness at all in the Middle Ages. There was just Christendom and Heathens.

The modern concept of racial identity was created by the Spanish after they discovered America, and then appropriated by the English who decided that white people were defined by being either Anglo or Saxon, while everyone else from Sweden to Italy and from Ireland to Russia was of a swarthy complexion.

There are Middle English texts that attempt to construct a unified European identity (out of a sense of inferiority, since Christian texts referenced the holy land, but not Europe) that can be seen as the ancestor of whiteness; that divide between Christian and heathen took on racialized qualities at times, especially since you left out the core third term: Jewish, who were othered in a way that was not only religious, though the religious element was most prominent.

Basically, whiteness was like most historically constructed categories built out of a combination of pre-existing parts, some of which are quite old and some of which were newly invented. All of which were bad.

E: the point being that the origins of the category show that it wasn’t just a result of colonial empires but a predicate for them.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

Right in the Kokoro



Cat Mattress posted:

There was no concept of whiteness at all in the Middle Ages. There was just Christendom and Heathens.

The modern concept of racial identity was created by the Spanish after they discovered America, and then appropriated by the English who decided that white people were defined by being either Anglo or Saxon, while everyone else from Sweden to Italy and from Ireland to Russia was of a swarthy complexion.

You should probably read up on the black legend of Spanish colonialism and how English/Dutch propaganda more or less drummed Spain out of the white club in the 17th/18th century as a rhetorical tool of convenience. Spain and southern Italy have long had connotations of being liminally white due to ~moor blood~ for central Europeans and for the English in particular.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome





Yeah, it's either Bumper, or the orcs. Otherwise everyone else is Lily white.

And while yes, the Semashi are sort of an abstract mishmash of orientalist and racist tropes, I do think that Mookie thought of Bumper as black at this point. For reasons you will see below, and later when we get to the arc on thievery and find he used to run with a gang with a leader named Urban Eddie.

I'm glad people got time to discuss because I wanted everyone in the right mood for this next drop.

Chapter 10: Escatasy and Evil Part 6



Dominic is thrown into prison with Stunt.





So jokyness and heavyhanded foreshadowing ensue.




Dominic is instantly able to convince Stunt to help by using Stunt's generic misoginy against him. i hate Stunt's misoginy. It's so formless and generic, and like others have said years away from having a retconned justification, which means it plays out like an adult man thinking girls are dumb and have cooties.



Again, dominic is the stupid mastermind in all of this, even after he failed to predict Celesto.



Again, this was Mookie's way out of the problem. Dumb and anticlimactic.

OK SO HERE IT COMES



We cut to Amelia torturing (?) Luna. Actions are so poorly conveyed hard to tell what this get up is for. Probably a bondage joke now that I think about it.




Everybody knows what a sadsack punching bag Luna is! So they all try to break her the same way. But look, character growth! Self-confidence! I mean, not really, because it won't last, and she only expressed confidence in Dominic.



Amelia is stumped though, her magic inexplicable now requiring "breaking the will" to work. I guess all those dudes were just simps. She spies a mind-controlled bumper, to solve her problems.



She has Bumper move a now UNCONCIOUS Luna somewhere as part of her plan. Again last panel twist harharhar. Mookie has his formulas



Stunt abandons Dominic. Dominic then goes into an unguarded room......

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And walks in on the only PoC character, already having been coded as a criminal and as discriminated against for his skin colour, preparing to rape an unconcious white woman.

Ok, so I remember at the time that people tried to justify this by saying "well, it was mind control" or "it makes sense in the story". I hope everybody realizes that those are bullshit justifications and aren't actuall a defense of anything. Characters aren't people, no matter how many writers say they get a life of their own. Mookie chose to create a scenario where he drew the one character of color he deliberatly included, who has already been fetishized in this arc, as playing out a horrendous racial stereotype. And that's the thing too, is that Mookie chose in this arc to invent or reveal that Bumper was black. As much as ommiting people of colour from you fantasy world is indicative of some things, including them only to write them into the role of criminal and rapist is, I would say, much worse. Again, this is the first colorization of Bumper we are seeing, and it's for this strip. This visual.

On top of that, it's obvious that Mookie likes Bumper more that Stunt. Bumper is not the butt of many jokes going forward, and he gets an arc centered around him much sooner than stunt. Here he is, also enacting a rape with a plausible moral reason that it's not his fault. Given that Mookie would later try to write an arc with a heroic rape, I wonder how much of Mookie's fetish is "rape, but it's not your fault". Just some contrivance of why you can't blame the rapist, it was outside of his control. I don't want to dig to deep into this, but reading this again post Stonewater made connections I didn't the first time.

Also, this whole sequence is going to be used as justification for when Amelia is killed later. Keep that in mind




Anyway, turns out that roofying people is just a thing in "Sin City". What is this city? What sort of culture does it have? It makes no sense. It's just kinky sex town, with rape on top now. See this is where Mookie's sex negativity comes in. This is the 3rd major arc of his comic, after 2 of just generic fantasy hijinx and he writes a story centered prominantly around non-monogamous, non-heteronormative sex, but lumps it in with rape and fantasy date-rape drugs. It's impossible not to read into this. And again, dominic gets to be the white knight who saves his waifu from all the evil sexhaving monsters.



Anyway, the solution to this arc is going to be that Szark's Dad and Dominic's parents come in to disapprove of his lifestyle before saving the day. Again, hard not to read into this.




Here they are folks. The deegan clan is complete, and given who they are, it's hard to see Dominic as a dude slumming it for the sake of not selling out. Like Mark in Rent. Someone who has all the options in the world but chooses not to live better because his suffering justifies his misanthropy. Please also keep in mind that Mookie is a failed actor, and did that before starting DD, when it comes to Donovan's character.

Also, just to spoil it a little, because it's hilarious. That title "archmage of the fifth circle" which makes it sound like she's a part of some magic hierarchy of mages? What that actually means is that she is the sole occupier of the 5th circle, which is a metaphysical guardian type role. The other circles are literally occupied by a bunch of extradimensional monsters. Dominic is the son of the only human to ever occupy that role. That is the absurdity of the marysue-ness of the Deegan clan.

So yes, we still have some ground to cover in this arc, but this right here is one of the reasons I think DD stands out among the other terrible early 00's webcomics. He dove immediately into this, this R-rated murder/rape fantasy with weird racial elements.

Yeah.

Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Sep 13, 2020

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

Right in the Kokoro



Ahahaha oh my lord I forgot about Urban Eddie :ughh:

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome




Plus I don't trust that hairweave joke from the beginning of this arc either.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

It's simultaneously like a child's idea of people and the fetishes of a gross uncle...nothing is right here...

The Little Death posted:

Plus I don't trust that hairweave joke from the beginning of this arc either.

That was absolutely Mookie making a black joke, nothing about that sequence made sense beyond setting it up.

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


how the gently caress did I forget this

And isn’t that the second EVER colored strip?

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009




TheHan posted:

It's simultaneously like a child's idea of people and the fetishes of a gross uncle...nothing is right here...

I'd like to think Mookie has dealt with at least some of his unhealthy sexual hangups by now because the idea of someone being married with children but still being this deeply ashamed of/attracted by taboo to any kind of non-standard sexuality scares me. What the gently caress happened to him growing up to make him this way? What warped his development so much?

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

loving yikes.

Invisible Clergy
Sep 25, 2015

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Malachi 2:3


Kavak posted:

I'd like to think Mookie has dealt with at least some of his unhealthy sexual hangups by now because the idea of someone being married with children but still being this deeply ashamed of/attracted by taboo to any kind of non-standard sexuality scares me. What the gently caress happened to him growing up to make him this way? What warped his development so much?
I can understand why it's more palatable to think that, but I see no evidence that it's true. I don't think anything was done to him, just pretty standard nerd misogyny/toxic masculinity/etc.

Sorry for uncorking discussion on which races are and aren't white. As The Little Death said, I meant the Semashi are the dumping ground for all exotifying/racialized/orientalist tropes in the Deeganverse and that aspects drawn from real-world cultures overall are thrown under that umbrella.

The Little Death posted:

Given that Mookie would later try to write an arc with a heroic rape, I wonder how much of Mookie's fetish is "rape, but it's not your fault". Just some contrivance of why you can't blame the rapist, it was outside of his control. I don't want to dig to deep into this, but reading this again post Stonewater made connections I didn't the first time.
A significant portion of it is, especially if he can say the rapist is innocent and it's really the fault of one of those darn evil WOMEN instead, like he does with Szark in this arc.

quote:

Anyway, turns out that roofying people is just a thing in "Sin City". What is this city? What sort of culture does it have? It makes no sense. It's just kinky sex town, with rape on top now. See this is where Mookie's sex negativity comes in. This is the 3rd major arc of his comic, after 2 of just generic fantasy hijinx and he writes a story centered prominantly around non-monogamous, non-heteronormative sex, but lumps it in with rape and fantasy date-rape drugs. It's impossible not to read into this. And again, dominic gets to be the white knight who saves his waifu from all the evil sexhaving monsters.
I don't know that Mookie has much of a concept of consensual sex. Even when he's doing his satyr/nymph self insert porn, he feels the need to specify the sex is consensual with each upload, which is intensely creepy.

Regalingualius posted:

how the gently caress did I forget this

And isn’t that the second EVER colored strip?
Yes, but it's the first colored strip Bumper featured in.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome




Regalingualius posted:

how the gently caress did I forget this

And isn’t that the second EVER colored strip?

I checked! It was his third!

#1



June 4th, 2002

I think to show Spark's fur colour.




May 21, 2003

To celebrate the 1 year anniversary of the strip and also to show the gross icky goo of Dejah



And the one above, posted on February 17, 2004 for...... now what reason could there possibly be? Why would he choose this strip to require colour emphasis?

I'm not posting it again because it's gross and only needs to be seen once in this thread.

Kavak posted:

I'd like to think Mookie has dealt with at least some of his unhealthy sexual hangups by now because the idea of someone being married with children but still being this deeply ashamed of/attracted by taboo to any kind of non-standard sexuality scares me. What the gently caress happened to him growing up to make him this way? What warped his development so much?

I'm going to say an uncritical nature and catholic guilt.

Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Sep 13, 2020

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009




The Little Death posted:

And the one above, posted on February 17, 2004 for...... now what reason could there possibly be? Why would he choose this strip to require colour emphasis?

Has anyone ever asked Mookie about this? Because I really want to hear his answer.

Invisible Clergy posted:

I can understand why it's more palatable to think that, but I see no evidence that it's true. I don't think anything was done to him, just pretty standard nerd misogyny/toxic masculinity/etc.

I don't think it's more palatable, it's just more interesting than him just being a creep. Maybe he's just so arrested developmentally that he has no filter for what he shows to the world in his art and no self-awareness about it so he just stands out from other people.

Kavak fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Sep 13, 2020

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome




Kavak posted:

Has anyone ever asked Mookie about this?

Actually I went back and realized I skipped something.




That was posted along with the strip above. I thought it was a banner ad the first time.

So I guess charitably, his story coincidentatlly lined up with this anniversarry. If you assume he planned each strip out in advance, and didn't choose this visual to do when he decided to do a colour strip.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009




It's the 500th Episode! We're celebrating with RAPE!

It's fun to overanalyze but past his creepy hangups and fetishes we have to remember Mookie is really, really stupid.

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TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

Kavak posted:

I'd like to think Mookie has dealt with at least some of his unhealthy sexual hangups by now because the idea of someone being married with children but still being this deeply ashamed of/attracted by taboo to any kind of non-standard sexuality scares me. What the gently caress happened to him growing up to make him this way? What warped his development so much?

I think if he has grown as person he'd be massively ashamed by Dominic Deegan. Too ashamed to return to it for the Legacy, and maybe even too ashamed to look it in the eye. The way he talks about the satyr porn, it sounds like Mookie's growing a sex positive attitude, but personally I think he's just riding the coattails of a more sex positive culture to be more openly horny on main. The way he treated marginalized groups in Star Power, and how the Ink Witch was another helpless momwife (who despite all her power was emotionally and physically dependent on the useless sludge of a protagonist that was Snout), doesn't give me a ton of confidence in him.

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