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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



nothing actually in the movie cuties is much worse than reality shows on teenage girls you can find on primetime tv. this does not mean its a well executed movie but it is not 'child porn'

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Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007


The only thing I've seen from that movie is part of a clip of the dance scene on twitter and

Endorph posted:

nothing actually in the movie cuties is much worse than reality shows on teenage girls you can find on primetime tv. this does not mean its a well executed movie but it is not 'child porn'

is probably correct.

The discourse around this has a use. The next victor salva is absolutely taking notes on how to film scenes like that and get a pass from the public at large.

But look on the bright side: maybe the next victor salva is a queer woman of color! Progress!

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Apologies for signal boosting this person but...

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1303908536553017349

I haven't seen the movie but I mean like regardless of the context and intention of the movie what the gently caress. Someone still wrote and recorded this, seems like you could make a movie with her alleged intention without making whatever this is. I'm sure you could do a twitter search for all the libs defending this movie and they were screaming about the joker movie months ago.

nut
Jul 30, 2019


yeah not like there is a long, horrifying tradition of parents trying to show that their kid can do just this even better than everyone else's kid on a stage in front of adult judges

it's a gross and unsettling movie, that's the point. I, too, would never seek to create something like this if I was a filmmaker, even if it was in the name of criticizing the social forces that push these types of behaiour and structures in the real world.

I'm not gonna click the video and I'm pretty sure the rule is to keep media like that out of this thread. This isn't a movie review thread but just in case, 0 stars out of five thanks like and subscribe

Backweb
Feb 14, 2009



Jeffrey Epstein is dead, but like bin Laden, he still won.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:


I dunno as a racist heíd probably find Cuties distasteful.

COMPAGNIE TOMMY
Jan 24, 2016

by Fluffdaddy


Why is it being marketed like that, even if the content is not distasteful they seem to be casting a very specific net as to who they want to watch it

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:


Little Miss Sunshine accomplished the same themes perfectly and without having to go too overt and exploitative on it. Indie American flicks beat French bitch! USA! USA!

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013



https://www.teamdan69.com


COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Why is it being marketed like that, even if the content is not distasteful they seem to be casting a very specific net as to who they want to watch it

My understanding is only people with certain patterns already established on their netflix account received the provocative children promo stuff

nut
Jul 30, 2019


COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Why is it being marketed like that, even if the content is not distasteful they seem to be casting a very specific net as to who they want to watch it

This is definitely the bizarre part of the whole thing

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



500excf type r posted:

My understanding is only people with certain patterns already established on their netflix account received the provocative children promo stuff

yea they made a bunch of different thumbnails and the algorithm tested them on different demographcis and it happened to show the weird dance scene one to someone with a big twitter

ptkfvk
Apr 30, 2013



500excf type r posted:

My understanding is only people with certain patterns already established on their netflix account received the provocative children promo stuff

yeah, just turns out that the creepy promos fit a huge portion of the country. it is nice knowing that someone still had to put the images together.

i wonder how much the adult obsession with YA books/media has to do with that

ptkfvk has issued a correction as of 03:59 on Sep 13, 2020

Professorjuggalo
Oct 22, 2019

by Cyrano4747


everyone in the Ďsexual assault and culture in hollywoodí thread says that youíre a Qanon whacko if you even question the film. Which Iím sure will go well with the actual Qanon whackos when they get told Ďshut up donít question ití

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Professorjuggalo posted:

everyone in the ‘sexual assault and culture in hollywood’ thread says that you’re a Qanon whacko if you even question the film. Which I’m sure will go well with the actual Qanon whackos when they get told ‘shut up don’t question it’

Yeah I was posting about it in the streaming thread when someone posted liz bruenig and called her a trad cath lmao. Just seems to be lib brain poisoning like they just see a culture war and have to be on the correct side which is in this case stanning the sexually exploiting children movie. You even get more lib bonus points because the director is a queer poc woman!

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case




I actually just watched the movie because my wife and I alternate picking movies and she wanted to see what the fuss was about. it is basically Thirteen for the social media age. the movie is aggressively, nauseatingly uncomfortable, but it does have a point and itís not about how sexy kids are. the dance scenes are supposed to be awful and nerve wracking to watch, theyíre enfolded in a plot that fairly unsubtly sends the message that this is a bad, bad thing.

I would not watch it again and not recommend it unless you have nerves of steel and an iron stomach (and hopefully no kids of your own, since this will make you want to lock them in their rooms until they turn 18). however it does not seem to be made for pedos.

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012


In fairness this thread is chock full of loving mental people for some reason

Keep on keeping on but lmao you guys tripped and fell off the deep end lol

Professorjuggalo
Oct 22, 2019

by Cyrano4747


Professorjuggalo posted:

I also agree big mouth isnít comparable and I even said myself the problem with this is the same problem as exploitation movies. Thereís gonna be adults watching this film who donít see the message or ignore it and kids who also watch it and miss it only adding to the alarming and already pointed out trend in society (but with a official studio backing). Which means at best this is something for the audience to chew over and not something FOR the exploited groups itís preaching on. This is all stuff feminist and black groups were saying about horror and exploitation films (but both have addressed this in ways with some drat good modern horror movies and the entire blaxploitation genre). And horror and exploitation films had histories with demands from the top to put in extreme scenes to justify making movies about heady topics in the first place. While thatís a larger problem with capitalism in itself I feel these things amplify way worse with the nature of child labour.

From wikiapedia: An exploitation film is a film that attempts to succeed financially by exploiting current trends, niche genres, or lurid content. Iím not arguing that exploitation films donít have a place in society, but that using children put them past a grey area from the power dynamics involving children. The same reason I let big mouth go makes me hate a movie like Good Boy

Plus Iím sure the film director is gonna get off smoother than any of the child actors. Most of the Qanon paranoia is directed at Netflix the corporation

Edit: Iíve never watched big mouth so idk about anything regarding it other than itís a cartoon about adults voicing teens during puberty. Thatís all I used to base this off of and isnít defending or trashing the show cause I donít know poo poo about it

cross post of myself from that thread before I eat a perma for shitposting back too hard

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



Mackers posted:

In fairness this thread is chock full of loving mental people for some reason

Keep on keeping on but lmao you guys tripped and fell off the deep end lol

it should really be gassed after the antisemitic guy and the dude posting a fake video and the multi page discussion abotu a lovely netflix movie

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019



the karens are back itt much earlier than usual, hello.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I just couldn't look at your old avatar anymore
Fucking nauseating!


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

I actually just watched the movie because my wife and I alternate picking movies and she wanted to see what the fuss was about. it is basically Thirteen for the social media age. the movie is aggressively, nauseatingly uncomfortable, but it does have a point and itís not about how sexy kids are. the dance scenes are supposed to be awful and nerve wracking to watch, theyíre enfolded in a plot that fairly unsubtly sends the message that this is a bad, bad thing.

I would not watch it again and not recommend it unless you have nerves of steel and an iron stomach (and hopefully no kids of your own, since this will make you want to lock them in their rooms until they turn 18). however it does not seem to be made for pedos.

The end would've benefited way more from less focus on the girls and more on the cheering crowd, smiling and applauding judges, and the whole culture of child dance/pageant competitions that endorses and encourages such behavior.

Backweb
Feb 14, 2009



Farm Frenzy posted:

it should really be gassed after the antisemitic guy
:thunk:

Good job being woke there, champ.

Free Cuppy Tea.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



i'm jewish. apologise to me right now.

WEH
Feb 22, 2009



Yam Slacker

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Little Miss Sunshine accomplished the same themes perfectly and without having to go too overt and exploitative on it. Indie American flicks beat French bitch! USA! USA!

this is correct

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Backweb posted:

:thunk:

Good job being woke there, champ.

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Backweb
Feb 14, 2009



Farm Frenzy posted:

i'm jewish. apologise to me right now.
I'm sorry that you use bad-faith excuses to perpetuate microagressions, ignorance, and worst of all: bad posting.

You'll have to meet me half way.

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013



https://www.teamdan69.com


I like how anyone can go find the "anti semitic" post and read it for themselves but no one does and just keeps perpetuating the lie.

Like it happens all the time in the media, with politicians etc that step out of line and criticize Israel or some other obviously poo poo thing and they get branded an anti semite or worse and get written off / ignored / memory holed and no one thinks twice about it.

Cuppy was a bit out there at times but his posts had a lot of Epstein adjacent real stuff in them that they were good and on topic and the fact that outsiders come in, complain, get the guy perma banned and use the guise of "anti semitism" and "mental illness" to make everyone look away is like our own little op happening, just for us.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012





Everything is controlled by the CIA and as was decided hundreds of pages ago this is the CIA historiography thread. Therefore nothing is off topic for this thread.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013




Backweb posted:

:thunk:

Good job being woke there, champ.

Free Cuppy Tea.

500excf type r posted:

I like how anyone can go find the "anti semitic" post and read it for themselves but no one does and just keeps perpetuating the lie.

Like it happens all the time in the media, with politicians etc that step out of line and criticize Israel or some other obviously poo poo thing and they get branded an anti semite or worse and get written off / ignored / memory holed and no one thinks twice about it.

Cuppy was a bit out there at times but his posts had a lot of Epstein adjacent real stuff in them that they were good and on topic and the fact that outsiders come in, complain, get the guy perma banned and use the guise of "anti semitism" and "mental illness" to make everyone look away is like our own little op happening, just for us.

Farm Frenzy posted:

i'm jewish. apologise to me right now.
If you're being serious about conflating Judaism and Israel, I hope you wind up at the mercy of Palestinian war orphans.

COMPAGNIE TOMMY
Jan 24, 2016

by Fluffdaddy


Farm Frenzy posted:

it should really be gassed after the antisemitic guy and the dude posting a fake video and the multi page discussion abotu a lovely netflix movie
I didn't notice an antisemitic guy, I would want him gone if there was one, and curiously, nobody has been probed/banned for antisemitism itt- probably because it would be flat out untrue/indefensible. Also the marketing for the lovely netflix movie is controversial/relevant due to its alleged normalization of pedophilia, (which I guess maybe you want if you're against looking into it idk, only you really know that) but this thread now exists basically to expose/fight that. Sorry

As far as posts engaging negatively with a particular user, the only problematic ones are ones like these:

Mackers posted:

yo he's legit mental. People are gonna read that garbage and catch it

Mackers posted:

idk seems kinda cruel imo

guy clearly is not well

This is couched in such a backwards and wrong understanding of people facing mental health issues, (not to mention how loving rude it is to talk about them as if they can't see what you're saying or have capacities too diminished to understand).

Posts like this stigmatize mental illness, not the imaginary ones being referred to:

Mackers posted:

In fairness this thread is chock full of loving mental people for some reason

Keep on keeping on but lmao you guys tripped and fell off the deep end lol
Maybe these folks just like arguing on the internet, maybe they have some stake or interest in protecting kid fuckers. Who really knows? All I know is that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself and neither will Ghislaine Maxwell.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case




pentyne posted:

The end would've benefited way more from less focus on the girls and more on the cheering crowd, smiling and applauding judges, and the whole culture of child dance/pageant competitions that endorses and encourages such behavior.

did you watch the movie? the crowd cheers and smiles at first because theyíre like ďaw, a bunch of kids, thatís cute.Ē then when the girls actually start dancing the crowd quiets down and starts booing and looking disgusted and horrified. there are a bunch of reaction shots of them looking extremely upset and grossed out and one woman covers her kidís eyes (except of course thereís this one portly white dude who seems to be really into it).

the dance competition isnít a child pageant, all of the other teams are adults, thatís what makes it so inappropriate

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013




DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the dance competition isn’t a child pageant, all of the other teams are adults, that’s what makes it so inappropriate
Holy loving poo poo! :barf: Lede successfully buried!

Also :negative: at those poor girls getting booed, that can't be good for their likely-compromised self-esteem. :(

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy


Always Sunny reigns supreme in taking down child pageants

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013


thread is talking about cuties and who is the most mentally stable, if ever there were a huge sign that said GAS it would be right here

COMPAGNIE TOMMY
Jan 24, 2016

by Fluffdaddy


It's interesting which threads people just leave due to lack of interest or relevance and never revisit and which ones people are all GOTTA GAS IT (though truthfully this has less to do with particular threads than particular posters). As if advocating gassing itt does anything other than identify you as a friend of or potential friend of pedophiles, lol

(The little 'do not enter' sign will remove this thread from your bookmarks hth)

What I hope is the last word on cuppy: It's difficult to concern troll effectively re: mental illness if you are consistently showing your own rear end with regards to your understanding of it. As far as I can see, the reasoning for his punishment boils down to this:

"This guy is 'obviously' crazy/too severe a degree of crazy"
Who is qualified to make this judgment among the people actually saying this?

"The punishment for too much craziness is a permaban"
Again, not sure why mental illness is an offense to be punished, someone can help me understand if they want

"We don't want the 'crazy' to spread"
This isn't how epistemology or epidemiology work :nallears:

None of it is sound logic, especially since they didn't post anything antisemitic (which is what is only alluded to, not directly attributed in the probation/ban reasons). What rule, exactly, did this poster break? In any case, the punishment does not fit the perceived crime. It's obviously not based on any notion of harm reduction. They should be free to post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4fWYw7uuvU

COMPAGNIE TOMMY has issued a correction as of 13:49 on Sep 13, 2020

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020



Tubgoat posted:

Holy loving poo poo! :barf: Lede successfully buried!

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

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Cuppy killed a good discussion thread about the behavior of our elites by making it about his generic conspiracy word salad with gross things about the holocaust.

Either ban talking about that fuckwit, or :gas: the thread, because I want to read about loving Epstein, not some useless shitheel posting hosed up poo poo about jewish community leaders sacrificing their people to bahomet or whatever, or how his perma wasn't deserved.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003







Fallen Rib

Doc Hawkins posted:

we should improve the forums somewhat

But yet you post on the forums, curious

COMPAGNIE TOMMY
Jan 24, 2016

by Fluffdaddy


StratGoatCom posted:

Either ban talking about that fuckwit, or :gas: the thread, because I want to read about loving Epstein, not some useless shitheel posting hosed up poo poo about jewish community leaders sacrificing their people to bahomet or whatever, or how his perma wasn't deserved.

The post that you didn't quote was actually about Nazis killing Jews, for anyone else who's not going to look for it. Post about Epstein if you want the discussion to be about him, instead of disingenuously pushing a false narrative

In addition to Peter Nygard, I wonder how many wealthy people operate similar islands to Little St. James? One of the central conceits of the official narrative is that Epstein was basically a lone actor, and this is inferred to be the only place any of this stuff was going on. The thing that I think set Epstein apart was just how brazen he was about it all. The bulk of truly wealthy people in the world are semi-anonymous as far as not being instantly recognizable/famous like he or his cohorts and can probably move to and from their respective "island" or what have you quite freely without observation or speculation by the Enquirer et al.

When I think of the British political scandal about trafficking young boys to be abused in the 1970s, the average person can't put a face to many of the names. By contrast the Epstein case is completely engrossing from a tabloid perspective because so many of the people implicated are famous and well-known. But by such a bright spotlight being cast on it and saying it's been wrapped up because Epstein is dead, I feel like the enduring child trafficking operations are that much more enshadowed.

Backweb
Feb 14, 2009



Circumstances surrounding Epstein's death open up the discussion to a broad, wide ranging subject. You don't go from math teacher to billionaire hedge fund manager at a school with a history of child abuse without having a shitload of weird connections.

Instead of telling the thread what you don't like, try contributing something meaningful.


Pryor on Fire posted:

thread is talking about cuties and who is the most mentally stable, if ever there were a huge sign that said GAS it would be right here

"Stop talking about pedophilia conspiracies in the thread about pedophilia conspiracies!"



StratGoatCom posted:

Cuppy killed a good discussion thread about the behavior of our elites by making it about his generic conspiracy word salad with gross things about the holocaust.

Either ban talking about that fuckwit, or :gas: the thread, because I want to read about loving Epstein, not some useless shitheel posting hosed up poo poo about jewish community leaders sacrificing their people to bahomet or whatever, or how his perma wasn't deserved.

"Stop talking about CIA conspiracies and deep state occultism in the thread about a CIA conspirator and deep state occultist!"

Either add to the cracking and pinging or vote 1 and move on.

Free Cuppy Tea.

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