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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

It was never proved (because, to understate things, the magazine explosion destroyed all direct evidence) but that was considered the most likely cause by the investigation besides spontaneous ignition of poorly-manufactured powder.

"immediate suspicion focused on the Type 3 anti-aircraft shell as it was believed to have caused a fire before the war at the Sagami arsenal. Known as "sanshiki-dan", these were fired by the main armament and contained 900 to 1,200 25 mm diameter steel tubes (depending upon sources), each containing an incendiary charge"

"Even though the 3 Shiki tsûjôdan shells comprised 40% of the total main ammunition load of the Yamato-class battleships by 1944, they were rarely used in combat against enemy aircraft. The blast of the main guns turned out to disrupt the fire of the smaller antiaircraft guns."

Who was in charge of procuring that I wonder?

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS
When you came, you said to me as follows: “I will give Gimil‐san (when he comes) fine quality incendiary powder.” You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put powder which was not good before my messenger (Ṣīt‐san) and said “If you want to take it, take it, if you do not want to take it, go away!”

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty‐handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun‐to who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) yen of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of powder, and Šumi‐sama has likewise given 1,080 pounds of powder, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Suijin.

How have you treated me for that powder? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any powder from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the powder in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Platystemon posted:

When you came, you said to me as follows: “I will give Gimil‐san (when he comes) fine quality incendiary powder.” You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put powder which was not good before my messenger (Ṣīt‐san) and said “If you want to take it, take it, if you do not want to take it, go away!”

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty‐handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun‐to who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) yen of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of powder, and Šumi‐sama has likewise given 1,080 pounds of powder, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Suijin.

How have you treated me for that powder? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any powder from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the powder in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.

Don't sign you are posts.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Platystemon posted:

When you came, you said to me as follows: “I will give Gimil‐san (when he comes) fine quality incendiary powder.” You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put powder which was not good before my messenger (Ṣīt‐san) and said “If you want to take it, take it, if you do not want to take it, go away!”

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty‐handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun‐to who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) yen of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of powder, and Šumi‐sama has likewise given 1,080 pounds of powder, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Suijin.

How have you treated me for that powder? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any powder from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the powder in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.



Sumerian Karen best Karen

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

It was never proved (because, to understate things, the magazine explosion destroyed all direct evidence) but that was considered the most likely cause by the investigation besides spontaneous ignition of poorly-manufactured powder.

Do you recall the name of the ship, or something I read further on?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

bulletsponge13 posted:

Do you recall the name of the ship, or something I read further on?

I suspect they mean this:

"indeed, one of the shells may have exploded early and disabled one of Musashi's guns during the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea.[4]"

Not the same, but I also don't remember anything about any IJN BB's being accidentally suicided (as opposed to the final sallies out which were expected to be suicidal)


My mistake, thanks

Volmarias fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Aug 28, 2020

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Mutsu. Turret exploded at anchorage, ship sank.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon
They did some tests that seemed to rule out the special shells being the problem. The main reason the committee settled on arson was that it happened to take place in the turret manned by this particular pissed-off sailor, but we’ll never know for sure it wasn’t an accidental fire.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




shame on an IGA posted:

Sumerian Karen best Karen

I read somewhere that Ea-Nasir, to whom that letter was addressed, kept a whole cabinet full of similar hate-mail.

We know this because the whole city was sacked and burned during his lifetime, so his house was found in a burned snapshot of it's everyday condition, with his clay tablet hate-mail stash all nicely fired for posterity. Also apparently a corner of the house had been repoed by the neighbours, so I guess he wasn't exactly popular.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The people who made clay tablets loved him

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I recall seeing an article (I want to say Nat Geo, but that is probably wrong) that the dude is single handedly responsible for the largest single collection of tablets from the time.

I'm not a lovely business man, I'm a future archeological hero!

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

I read somewhere that Ea-Nasir, to whom that letter was addressed, kept a whole cabinet full of similar hate-mail.

We know this because the whole city was sacked and burned during his lifetime, so his house was found in a burned snapshot of it's everyday condition, with his clay tablet hate-mail stash all nicely fired for posterity. Also apparently a corner of the house had been repoed by the neighbours, so I guess he wasn't exactly popular.

Stop doxxing my PMs.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

bulletsponge13 posted:

I recall seeing an article (I want to say Nat Geo, but that is probably wrong) that the dude is single handedly responsible for the largest single collection of tablets from the time.

I'm not a lovely business man, I'm a future archeological hero!

Imagine if most of your knowledge of society came from Carl Ichan's mail

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

https://www.tiktok.com/@maryamneinas/video/6866076250285313286

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Someone send that to his leadership.
I mean, they can't do anything, but maybe he should be bullied a little? I dunno.

What kinda drugs was she doing when A) she thought that was in anyway good and B) thought that the concept was a good idea.

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003

Maybe not the best thread but I have to ask somewhere, how the hell do you deal with the dumbfucks who are trying to lionize a 17 year old craven and murderer? Facts bounce off of them and some of them are hard to cut out of social group since a bunch of us just got pulled together because another bro from the invasion died. It's all whataboutism and but but but. I want to smack the stupid out of them but can't.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
What that kid did would get them sent to Leavenworth. They're idiots if they think otherwise.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Vengarr posted:

They did some tests that seemed to rule out the special shells being the problem. The main reason the committee settled on arson was that it happened to take place in the turret manned by this particular pissed-off sailor, but we’ll never know for sure it wasn’t an accidental fire.

That dude saw the futures where the ship he was manning was drawn as a ship girl and decided to end it all

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

I mean if someone somehow foresaw that i would give them forgiveness for whatever they had to do to end their personal horror

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


MP or Intel?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
disrespectul

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 4, 2009

That's just amazing

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB
The year changed

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Deciever

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Never been a good sign when a guy gets their own name tatted across their stomach

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


LingcodKilla posted:

The year changed

at least he didn't mention his wife by name, so he can keep it relevant

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
There's no shortage of bad tattoos in the military. Could be anybody!

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

Worst Case Scenario

Mustang posted:

There's no shortage of bad tattoos in the military. Could be anybody!

I guess it could be, but if isn't Jose Torres that just adds a whole other level to the bad decisions.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

disrespectul

Churlish, and insubordinate. Chicanerous, and deceitful.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

Wild T posted:

Churlish, and insubordinate. Chicanerous, and deceitful.

Thank you for that

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

https://twitter.com/i/status/1300334227448385536

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008



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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Causing Havoc in People's Streets

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Guest2553 posted:

MP or Intel?



a dishonest and disrespectul what?

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



evobatman posted:

I AM A a dishonest and disrespectul what?

If the current thread title weren’t solid, I am a dishonest and disrespectul would be pretty good.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

evobatman posted:

a dishonest and disrespectul what?

Flip along the short end.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.
I had four separate conversations with a TSgt this month about her follow-on assignment. I kept repeatedly telling her that yes, the JTR authorizes you to ship your household goods to wherever while you're on a short tour, but if you ship them anywhere but your follow-on location the Air Force will cancel the assignment because you broke the agreement you obviously didn't read when you signed for it. All of the conversations went something like this:

"But why can't I ship my stuff to my spouse in [location A], then he ships it with his stuff to [location B]?"

"Because you made a deal to get an assignment pick a year ahead of everyone else on the sole condition that the Air Force only has to pay to move your stuff one time, from here to there. If you want you can store it here, then send it to [location B] once your spouse gets there."

"But if I ship it to my spouse, can't they put it in their HHGs and ship it?"

"No, because that's still your stuff being shipped twice on the government's dime. If you ship your stuff anywhere but B on the government's dime, you WILL lose the assignment. If you need to take stuff to your spouse, do it out of pocket."

Tell me why I had to go explain to my commander why this person is going to lose their follow-on (where her spouse is being assigned in a few months) because she went ahead and shipped her stuff to her spouse then cried to her commander that she was misinformed about the process.

McNally
Sep 12, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Wild T posted:

I had four separate conversations with a TSgt this month about her follow-on assignment. I kept repeatedly telling her that yes, the JTR authorizes you to ship your household goods to wherever while you're on a short tour, but if you ship them anywhere but your follow-on location the Air Force will cancel the assignment because you broke the agreement you obviously didn't read when you signed for it. All of the conversations went something like this:

"But why can't I ship my stuff to my spouse in [location A], then he ships it with his stuff to [location B]?"

"Because you made a deal to get an assignment pick a year ahead of everyone else on the sole condition that the Air Force only has to pay to move your stuff one time, from here to there. If you want you can store it here, then send it to [location B] once your spouse gets there."

"But if I ship it to my spouse, can't they put it in their HHGs and ship it?"

"No, because that's still your stuff being shipped twice on the government's dime. If you ship your stuff anywhere but B on the government's dime, you WILL lose the assignment. If you need to take stuff to your spouse, do it out of pocket."

Tell me why I had to go explain to my commander why this person is going to lose their follow-on (where her spouse is being assigned in a few months) because she went ahead and shipped her stuff to her spouse then cried to her commander that she was misinformed about the process.

Next time put it down in writing, I guess. If you had to explain it repeatedly then clearly the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.

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Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.
They asked for that guidance in writing, I told them to look at the application they signed where it outlined all of it. It ain't exactly the Apple Terms of Service, it's like a page and a half and pretty clear-cut.

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