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merry christmas to all idiots https://twitter.com/ASpaceSlav/status/1474318138749689856?s=20
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My whacky Evangelicals cousins weren’t allowed to believe in Santa as kids.
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Dec 25, 2021 20:37
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Because there's nothing less Christian than...Saint Nicholas? 
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Dec 25, 2021 22:50
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I was shooting the poo poo with someone between photoshoots about the artist we were working for and they dropped this gem: "I don't know if I believe that he's actually ex-military. There's no way they'd let someone in if they were that weird, right? and i was just like buddy,
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Dec 26, 2021 18:32
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Vengarr posted:Because there's nothing less Christian than...Saint Nicholas? AFAIK it's usually something about idolatry or along those same lines. They see it as children worshiping Santa, and that makes invisible sky man angry for reasons.
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Dec 27, 2021 15:59
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wolrah posted:AFAIK it's usually something about idolatry or along those same lines. They see it as children worshiping Santa, and that makes invisible sky man angry for reasons. That's exactly it; one of the points where Catholics and most Protestants differ most severely is on the veneration of the saints. Non-Catholics consider it idolatry, though some denominations allow for veneration. Evangelicals in particular are really angry about that. I'm pretty sure there was a Chick tract about it.
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Dec 27, 2021 20:29
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Evangelicals hate idolatry but are cool with personality cults and prosperity gospel poo poo.
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Dec 27, 2021 20:34
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That's US evangelicals in a nutshell. Idolatry is bad so here's why a literal golden statue of Trump is good.
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Dec 27, 2021 20:58
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bird food bathtub posted:That's US evangelicals in a nutshell. Idolatry is bad so here's why a literal golden statue of Trump is good. "I didn't need that money anyway and Joel Osteen wanted that private island *so badly*!"
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Dec 27, 2021 21:07
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Osteen is a turd but at least he has this folksy aura that you can understand might confuse dumb people. Imagine giving money to Kenneth Copeland?
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Dec 27, 2021 21:13
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It's a shame 9/11 broke Ray Stevens' brain because he had just the most perfect commentary on that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZaxRNJIj4
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Dec 27, 2021 21:23
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Jedi425 posted:That's exactly it; one of the points where Catholics and most Protestants differ most severely is on the veneration of the saints. Non-Catholics consider it idolatry, though some denominations allow for veneration. Evangelicals in particular are really angry about that. I'm pretty sure there was a Chick tract about it.
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Dec 27, 2021 21:25
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shame on an IGA posted:It's a shame 9/11 broke Ray Stevens' brain because he had just the most perfect commentary on that The man who made "Ahab the Arab" was never not going to go off the deep end after 9/11.
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Casimir Radon posted:Osteen is a turd but at least he has this folksy aura that you can understand might confuse dumb people. Imagine giving money to Kenneth Copeland? Imagine giving money away to any religious organization. They all seem to have plenty
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Dec 27, 2021 21:45
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Resurrections is a great riposte to the right wing, and also a good flip side to Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle stopped doing his TV show because frat bros were liking the lovely parts of his material and missing his points. But he came back a decade or so later and went full rear end in a top hat. Lana Wachowski is a trans lady who told a story about escaping a system of control and finding your true personal identity. But her trans allegory got hijacked as a metaphor by some reactionary assholes, and a studio said they were gonna make a movie with bullet time and explosions without her to get that built in audience. So she made a movie that doesn't take itself as seriously, where the fights are the least important part of the plot, that reminds people that things will change and bad guys will keep coming back to grab power, but we can fight the system and learn more about ourselves along the way. I think it was undercooked as a movie, but I enjoy it as a dashed off "this is what I really think, gently caress off sexists and nazis" message especially when the alternative was losing creative control.
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Dec 27, 2021 22:05
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NightGyr posted:Resurrections is a great riposte to the right wing, and also a good flip side to Dave Chappelle. Just going to quote this since I'm going to need it later
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Dec 27, 2021 22:30
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https://twitter.com/Cheyne55/status/1475159764938153987 I guess the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree
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Casimir Radon posted:Osteen is a turd but at least he has this folksy aura that you can understand might confuse dumb people. Imagine giving money to Kenneth Copeland? If I believed in literal demons, Copeland would absolutely be one of them.
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Dec 28, 2021 15:58
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NightGyr posted:Resurrections is a great riposte to the right wing, and also a good flip side to Dave Chappelle. If you don't see the system of control that Dave Chappelle critiques in his series of specials since his return...I have to ask. Are you a frat boy? I ask in jest. But coming for Chapelle as 'full rear end in a top hat' and then praising Lana Wachowski for speaking truth to power is infuriating. Dave Chappelle is speaking the truth of the black men's lived experience of a brutal system of control that persists to this day while mocking the fetishizing of blackness. He relates this to the lived experience of everyone America has brutally ground into the gears of Capitalism. He does this with skill and humor and a deep empathy of a close friend who can make jokes that are close to home but are too true to ignore. Misunderstanding his comedy as being anti trans or as being rear end in a top hat instead of the articulated deep humor about the double standards of being black in America, or trans in America is his Magnum opus joke. He knows, KNOWS, that he will be misunderstood as being anti trans, because people hearing him out has always been a problem. Because joining him on the ride of how truly lovely America is to it's poor, it's huddled, it's tired masses....it's depressing as gently caress and what depresses a lot of people daily. Frat Bros taking the easy mental off ramp of "haha n-word" doesn't invalidate Dave Chappelle as a story teller or an equally compelling champion of the possibility of a more just world. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk
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Dec 28, 2021 16:34
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I've never been part of a NORAD tracks santa event where the mission crew didn't shoot down Santa once the cameras stopped rolling. Someone always insisted on giving his track ID a 'festive red color' so I dunno what they expected to happen  I started writing a response to the Dave Chaplelle thing but I don't think we're going to unearth any new ground on this one that hasn't been thought up during any other 'love-the-art-hate-the-artist' debate. I generally agree with flapjacks' general argument for reasons that don't matter now that I'm trying to type them out so in conclusion, human psychology is a land of contrasts. Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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Dec 28, 2021 17:39
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bird food bathtub posted:That's US evangelicals in a nutshell. Idolatry is bad so here's why a literal golden statue of Trump is good. Don't forget if Edith sends your church $5 or €5 million it's not technically income. And the creepy way a number of televangelists and prosperity gospel types end up coming from legally murky backgrounds. Must be a coincidence! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6djop_WbvUU
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Dec 28, 2021 17:48
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Wasabi the J posted:Don't forget if Edith sends your church $5 or €5 million it's not technically income. This just makes me miss James Randi, who practically went to war against these scamming assholes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6BoV0AIPl4 https://youtu.be/Kor_L12bBB0 CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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Dec 28, 2021 18:14
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growing up in the Charlotte media market owned, couldn't get enough of Jesus Liberace every morning before school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxcfDe5MRTw
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shame on an IGA posted:growing up in the Charlotte media market owned, couldn't get enough of Jesus Liberace every morning before school No, just no no no. Leroy Jenkins is not a weird starfucker Florida evangelical..... He needs his rear end eaten by whelps. And he ain't gettin no chicken.
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Dec 29, 2021 05:11
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Gun disarm smash cuts is my new favorite meme category https://www.tiktok.com/@betsomeister/video/6957386669997804805
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Dec 30, 2021 03:07
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stackofflapjacks posted:If you don't see the system of control that Dave Chappelle critiques in his series of specials since his return...I have to ask. Yeah, no. Chappelle is peddling transphobia, full stop.
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Dec 30, 2021 06:00
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https://twitter.com/iAmTheWarax/status/1476513525774307332 You can tell how humble they are from all the books they write and podcasts they host telling you how humble they are.
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Dec 30, 2021 12:16
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What special uniform?
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Dec 30, 2021 14:25
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McNally posted:Yeah, no. Chappelle is peddling transphobia, full stop. My ex-wife and I watched his latest poo poo together. I warned her about the transphobia, but she didn't believe me. We had a good long talk after, dissecting his narrative. Neither of us are trans, but our daughter is. All I did was ask the ex what our daughter would think of what he said. Dad uses empathy, it's super effective.
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McNally posted:Yeah, no. Chappelle is peddling transphobia, full stop. Realize I'm poo poo stirring, however I am being sincere Went researching, read this article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/amp/Call-out-Dave-Chappelle-s-transphobia-but-16590293.php I guess what pisses me off about...using your Matrix 4 review to club Dave Chappelle (seriously wtf?) Is his actual point stands, racism is a massive problem in queer spaces. It reads as really casual to make this pointed barb at some barely related point whochh .... My posts in the idiot thread stand as a testament to my lack of knowing, stupidity and proving that fact by posting I will continue to educate myself and I apologize for my lack of knowledge about transphobia and the experience and struggles of trans people. stackofflapjacks fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Dec 30, 2021 |
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Dec 30, 2021 16:00
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stackofflapjacks posted:Realize I'm poo poo stirring, however I am being sincere You are not wrong to pick up on what he's saying about being in the minority within American society. He's not wrong by pointing it out either. What he did say ends up denigrating a whole bunch of peoples' experiences, for no real reason. Best case, I think the idea that, "Unless we unfuck how our society treats black people, we won't go any farther for gay or trans black people.", is valid. That's not how he framed it though. Who's he though? One man, one person, with all of the prejudices a person learns in their life. Look, we all muddle through. You got an eye out. You care enough to ask. You care enough to admit you may be wrong. That's good, and I think well of you for it.
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Dec 30, 2021 16:19
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madeintaipei posted:What he did say ends up denigrating a whole bunch of peoples' experiences, for no real reason. No, there's a reason. Edgelord always gotta edgelord.
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Dec 30, 2021 16:38
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Theres massive material benefit for cynically playing to the edgelord, Say What They Don't Want Me To Say , reactionary cheap seats.
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Dec 30, 2021 16:59
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Unrelated, but I met someone this week named Jodie [last name]-Kuck and had to try real hard not to laugh.
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Dec 30, 2021 17:04
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Moon Slayer posted:Unrelated, but I met someone this week named Jodie [last name]-Kuck and had to try real hard not to laugh. If it was me I’d get a laugh at it. Also I’d become a personal fitness trainer. It was meant to be.
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Dec 30, 2021 17:10
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I think Chapelle is funny (or maybe was - I haven't watched his new stuff and I don't find transphobia particularly funny) but whenever I think back to the bits on his show that I liked the most it always seems like Charlie Murphy was the one that made me laugh the most.
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Dec 30, 2021 19:18
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If you graph charted Charlie and Eddie, Charlie indisputably became funnier than Eddie in S1 of Chappelle Show
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Dec 30, 2021 19:25
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stackofflapjacks posted:
Two creators best known for work circa 2000, reappear with new material. One of them is trans, the other is transphobic. Felt like a parallel. The parallel is fairly loose, though, and I wouldn't say anything about Dave Chappelle was my main point.
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