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Jimmy Smuts posted:I straight up will never forget the video of the Ukrainian guy who stole an abandoned Russian T-72. The horn it had sounded so cute! It's like a '80s Toyota, why did Rusisa go with such a cute sound horn? Why not spend 0.1$ and make a mean sounding horn? BLYAT BLYAT!!!!
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Crab Dad posted:BLYAT BLYAT!!!!
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Tunicate posted:And then they are only using 75 planes total for no conceivable reason That's how many planes they have that can actually fly
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 The physicist drops the cluster bombs. The engineer aims the artillery. The statistician yells “we got ’em!” I want to believe.
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Wrong Theory posted:Remember when weirdos online thought Russia had some super bad rear end military because they had tough guys looking tough in a commercial whereas the U.S. Army commercial had lesbians or something. Oh how wrong they were. In both cases they're the kind of idiots who refuse to recognise that advertising isn't real.
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Platystemon posted:
A reminder forever that tons of boom exploded does not equal enemy troops exploded. Reminds me of how US battleships in WW2, despite hurling a pretty fearsome weight of metal at Japanese occupied islands often failed to destroy or even significantly degrade Island defenses prior to a landing.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:A reminder forever that tons of boom exploded does not equal enemy troops exploded. Or the fact that we dropped immense amounts of ordinance on the German War industry and they largely managed to keep up production numbers steadily until the end of the war.
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CommieGIR posted:Or the fact that we dropped immense amounts of ordinance on the German War industry and they largely managed to keep up production numbers steadily until the end of the war. It's hard to say how much it really did. Consensus seems to be somewhere between "much less effective than the Air Force generals boasted about" and "mostly mitigated when competent production people like Speer were in charge." Forcing the industry to spread out and avoid the kind of efficiencies that come from concentration was probably helpful. The other great stroke of luck for the Allies was that the utterly incompetent boob Göring was running the air war for a very long time. Their flight crews were so undertrained (1/3 to 1/4 the flight time of an Allied cadet) that the Germans lost more planes in 1943 to regular ol' pilot error crashes than in combat. And those weren't even helicopters! For a B-17 story, let's hear about the electrically heated suits for when you're crouched in a ball turret at 20,000 feet for several hours quote:When available, the new electrical suits were notoriously undependable. They shorted out and sent electric shocks through the hands, feet, and testicles; and after a few missions, they tended to burn out, usually because the men were not told how to take proper care of them. After a mission, exhausted men wrapped them in a ball with their other flying clothing and stuffed them into lockers or barracks bags, damaging the fragile heat elements. They were also wired in series too, so if one part stopped working, the whole thing shut off.
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Speer wasn't even that competent. The reason german industry increased late in the war was because the nazis didn't want women doing men's work, so they didn't actually transition to a real war economy until extreme necessity outweighed ideology. Speer of course wrote his autobiography to seem like he was an apolitical genius who somehow didn't know about the holocaust.
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Speer: tours Mittelwerk Also Speer: “I saw nothing!”
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Tunicate posted:Speer wasn't even that competent. Also the major effects of things put into place by his predecessor took a while to happen so he was substantially taking credit for work done by the people he shits on. A real piece of work, that one.
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Is there more of this dingus? I crave more.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Is there more of this dingus? His nom de guerre is ‘Texas’. VICE had a piece him seven years ago. Here’s a Texas Monthly article. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Ah yes Texas. Known for getting their asses kicked repeatedly for a stupid hateful cause. Apt home, really. Y'know idk where to vent this but Vice scares me because they had such ease getting into NK, Ukraine, Russia, etc. And they did that one piece that got that dude in Portland murdered by feds. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Wasabi the J posted:Ah yes Texas. Come again? 
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SavageMessiah posted:Also the major effects of things put into place by his predecessor took a while to happen so he was substantially taking credit for work done by the people he shits on. A real piece of work, that one. A shitload of what we 'know' about WW2 comes from uncritically accepting the accounts of Nazis. See: the Eastern Front.
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CommieGIR posted:Or the fact that we dropped immense amounts of ordinance on the German War industry and they largely managed to keep up production numbers steadily until the end of the war. This factoid always gets an "ehhhhhh?" from me because it assumes German industry would've stayed static in output terms without the bombing campaign.
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If this discussion really floats your boat may I recommend "The wages of destruction", an outstanding book about the economics of Nazi Germany
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Splode posted:If this discussion really floats your boat may I recommend "The wages of destruction", an outstanding book about the economics of Nazi Germany It's essential reading, yes.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This factoid always gets an "ehhhhhh?" from me because it assumes German industry would've stayed static in output terms without the bombing campaign. It wasn't static, but it was close. To be fair: Their production numbers were always fairly low due to lack of workers.
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Wasabi the J posted:Ah yes Texas. That VICE piece got him killed? I've never heard that in the past - I know the guy was scared of talking to the press because he was afraid the police would go murder him (which is what happened), but I don't recall it being connected to the VICE piece at all. Could be wrong, and wouldn't be the first time a journalist's fuckup got someone harmed/killed.
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Michael Reinoehl wasn't killed because of a Vice article. Trump told the federal officers to kill him, and they did so with gusto.
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US Berder Patrol posted:I used to believe he was assassinated by feds at Trump's command, too, but as was pointed out last time I claimed that on this forum the cops who shot Reinoehl were all from local and state agencies. There were absolutely federal officers involved with his execution. The fact that local cops were with them doesn't change what happened.
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Mr. Nice! posted:There were absolutely federal officers involved with his execution. The fact that local cops were with them doesn't change what happened. My understanding is that the actual officers that confronted and shot him were federally deputized local law enforcement. They had undoubtedly heard the president's directive though. Local cops are often... Not the smartest or most conscientious of what the law is. This is not to day that there weren't full fledged federal officers that were also involved - just that ny understanding is that the ones who pulled the trigger were from the area
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Grip it and rip it posted:My understanding is that the actual officers that confronted and shot him were federally deputized local law enforcement. They had undoubtedly heard the president's directive though. Wikipedia says it was a federal task force under the direction of the FBI and US Marshals. No matter who the trigger men actually were, they were told to do exactly what they did. They rolled in without any cameras on and executed him.
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This is also one way authoritarian regimes operate. Blast propaganda identifying all the undesirables and telling everyone how much those targets are going to rape their daughters, kill their dogs and burn their houses down then pretend they had no idea those people would get murdered. Can't blame us we didn't do it stop criticizing us and making this political, besides that undesirable had it coming anyway.
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bird food bathtub posted:This is also one way authoritarian regimes operate. Blast propaganda identifying all the undesirables and telling everyone how much those targets are going to rape their daughters, kill their dogs and burn their houses down then pretend they had no idea those people would get murdered. Can't blame us we didn't do it stop criticizing us and making this political, besides that undesirable had it coming anyway. This is just American policy, both foreign and domestic.
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There's a phrase in Hebrew literally translating to "spirit of the leader", you don't have to give a direct order to make it clear what you want from your subordinates or followers, and be culpable for it when they follow your will.
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bird food bathtub posted:This is also one way authoritarian regimes operate. Blast propaganda identifying all the undesirables and telling everyone how much those targets are going to rape their daughters, kill their dogs and burn their houses down then pretend they had no idea those people would get murdered. Can't blame us we didn't do it stop criticizing us and making this political, besides that undesirable had it coming anyway. Yeah and again, Vice was also were one of the first larger media outlets I remembering using the "separatist" regional labels for Donetsk, et al. back at least from the last UA administration. Again man, I loved their videos and poo poo but there's something loving weird about Vice and its fuckin me up. I'm also an idiot so I mean I'm not trying to push conspiracy poo poo but man I've been hosed up spinning my own webs lately without wanting to; there's just been so much weird poo poo online especially recently it is insane to think how deep some of these criminal/clandestine connections go. Like Beau of the fifth column, he was in prison with 4 Russian nationals trying to smuggle in women to work at Florida based resorts, had a multi decade sentence to which he served several months. He's also been dead on about a bunch of poo poo the last few years. Joe Rogan was aimed right at idiots like us, and got military aged men ready to die for a billionaire hyper-capitalist because they won't get vaccines from the other billionaire hyper-capitalists. Like sometimes I just feel depressed trying to figure out what kind of information I'm supposed to TRUST. I'm smart enough about the sciences to know I have to trust experts, but if there has been a coordinated effort to distrust experts... Who can the doo-doo dum-dums like me decide who to trust? I'm on the top end of military brain tests too lol. What about kids who scored 40? I can't convince them cus I fail to articulate my dumb thoughts too. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Wasabi the J posted:
You’re treading on a crackpot Q outlook right now dude. This is exactly how that stupid poo poo operates. Like, if you posted a random Twitter account with this exact post I would expect to see WWG1WGA in your bio. boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Gavin McInnis was involved in the early days of Vice so some of his poo poo DNA is buried down deep in the place. Plus some other stuff that comes with being the Alternative newspaper it started as. Some of their stuff from 10 years ago is honestly really good but I haven’t really paid attention in the last few years. They’d have to fail pretty loving far before they’d be anywhere close to what Rogan is.
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Hey man that's why I'm posting here not trying to keep going other places about it. It doesn't have to be deep state q poo poo - pro-analytica just feels memoryholed while Meta wants to strap VR to your head and switch your currency to one still usable in Russia, DURING THE INVASION. It is just infuriating knowing there are people genuinely exploiting tensions like this and it's more victim blamey to be like "WOW U CRAZY DIPSHIT" then to consider how they reached the conclusion. Idiots have guns and vote and have Facebook and TikTok streamed in their face 24-7 and it's just a little loving spooky.
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Wasabi the J posted:
Have you got any sources on this as it would seriously gently caress me up to think that Beau was a loving people smuggler! I get it that he maybe has a colourful past but this seems extreme. Hmm had a look myself and seems to be true, colour me shocked. Burt fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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