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maffew buildings posted:Remember when the United States executed it's traitors? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Lol, like the officers that ‘resigned their commissions’ to fight against the Union? Or the ones that sent all the arms the confederates couldn’t make themselves to the south before the war? Yeah, we sure hanged them good.
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Khizan posted:Treason is a high bar to clear because it’s the only crime, iirc, that is specifically defined in the constitution. And note that “enemies” in this sense means “we’re actually literally at war with them,” not just “they’re a rival” or “we don’t like them.” The Rosenbergs didn’t commit treason because we weren’t at war with the Soviet Union. Same thing for Ames and Hanssen. Pollard likewise didn’t commit treason because we weren’t at war with Israel. “Sedition” is 100% protected speech under the Brandenburg standard. There is no way whatsoever that a prosecution for sedition could be sustained under any modern first amendment jurisprudence. You’d have to go back to when the Supreme Court thought it was okay to throw people in prison for handing out pamphlets opposing the draft. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Jul 24, 2022 18:47
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Phanatic posted:There is no way whatsoever that a prosecution for sedition could be sustained under any modern first amendment jurisprudence. You’d have to go back to when the Supreme Court thought it was okay to throw people in prison for handing out pamphlets opposing the draft. Yeah and?
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well they're trying it, at least 6 were charged with sedition, not sure when the trials are though. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/13/what-is-sedition/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/18/stewart-rhodes-jail-seditious-conspiracy/
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`Nemesis posted:well they're trying it, at least 6 were charged with sedition, not sure when the trials are though. “Seditious conspiracy” is not the same thing as sedition. Conspiracy is an act, and seditious conspiracy requires: quote:If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. The Sedition Act, on the other hand, made it illegal to say mean things about the Federal government.
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cult_hero posted:But it would qualify as a fraudulent enlistment right? Knowing of a disqualifying factor for active duty and knowingly failing to disclose that upon enlistment, would potentially be subject to punishment under the UCMJ. No because he was already enlisted as a reservist at the time. He moved to active duty afterwards, but was already enlisted. The article explains how he isn’t subject to UCMJ punishment for the coup because he wasn’t activated at the time, and reservists are only subject while activated.
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Platystemon posted:Yeah and? You're gonna be in the group that'd be targeted after an election or two. I'd be wary of opening doors we don't actually want to see beyond.
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Moon Slayer posted:lol Its hot, humid, and you're bored after 4 hours and spend the rest of the day drinking at the beach bar. Go somewhere cool instead. cult_hero posted:Yes, Guam, that mysterious island in the mist, the American Brigadoon. What treasures and adventures await us in this forgotten land? Diego isn't a US territory.
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lightpole posted:Its hot, humid, and you're bored after 4 hours and spend the rest of the day drinking at the beach bar. Go somewhere cool instead.. Guam is great for like a week, they have some awesome snorkeling among some beautiful coral reefs. I'd go back for vacation if it wasn't 4x the price for a flight as Hawaii. When I was stuck on base there for a month and a half I got real bored though, yeah. Gained about 20lbs just getting wasted on the beach while flies landed on every part of my body.
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Godholio posted:You're gonna be in the group that'd be targeted after an election or two. I'd be wary of opening doors we don't actually want to see beyond.  As if the current scotus has a single care about maintaining legal integrity or avoiding hypocrisy. If they want to gently caress You Up, they will. If they have to make up the most tortured fake-legal bullshit to explain why YOU did a sedition and January 6th insurrectionists ~were just misguided patriots~, they will. This is some "removing the filibuster will lead to republicans abusing it!!!" levels of pearl-clutching bullshit. Those doors have already been forced open, much like the doors to the capitol on January 6th.
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Elviscat posted:Guam is great for like a week, they have some awesome snorkeling among some beautiful coral reefs. I'd go back for vacation if it wasn't 4x the price for a flight as Hawaii. One of my loving idiot engineers likes to get shitfaced there and almost miss the ship. This time she decided to get in a car that had the keys in it, drive back to the port, and get arrested. Still not sure how the captain got her on board before we sailed.
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Dick Burglar posted:This is some "removing the filibuster will lead to republicans abusing it!!!" levels of pearl-clutching bullshit. Removing the filibuster for judicial nominees led directly to Kavanaugh so maybe that isn’t the most prescient argument.
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Phanatic posted:Removing the filibuster for judicial nominees led directly to Kavanaugh so maybe that isn’t the most prescient argument. McConnell's actions would not have changed one single bit whether it was eliminated or not. Him and the Federalist Society were going to get their majority no matter the loving cost. Giving their bullshit "Look how you make me hit you" excuses anything other than scorn and mockery is playing their game.
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bird food bathtub posted:McConnell's actions would not have changed one single bit whether it was eliminated or not. Him and the Federalist Society were going to get their majority no matter the loving cost. Giving their bullshit "Look how you make me hit you" excuses anything other than scorn and mockery is playing their game. Especially when they are absolutely going to do it themselves as soon as they have the slimmest of majorities in the senate and a friendly House.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:I was an H-53 maintainer and we had a gripe come in "Relief tube insufficient length."
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I've got a relief tube story to go with that one, courtesy of my father who flew 46Ds and 53Es, who enjoyed the story: So the CO of his 46 squadron (he was the maintenance officer at the time) and a guy who needs to qual on instruments are flying an NDB approach into Felker Army Airfield in Newport News, VA. The CO's observing the pilot, who's wearing a hood that's keeping them from checking anything other than their instruments. Everything's going fine until the pilot under evaluation keys up his mic and asks, "Uh, Skipper, could you take her for a second, I've gotta take a piss." The CO agrees, and the pilot gives him the aircraft, grabs the relief tube, undoes his flight suit, and starts pissing into the tube. The CO doesn't think about it until the pilot says, "Skipper...the goddamned thing ain't draining!" The CO looks over and sure enough, there's a good amount of piss clogged in the tube, sloshing around the collection point. He ponders for a moment, as he's still flying at this point, and tells the pilot, "Just pour it out the window." Forgetting, of course, that they're still in forward flight at a good 80 knots, so when the pilot does as instructed, the wind blast through the open window catches the piss in the receptacle and bespatters both of them, utterly *soaking* the upper torso of the eval pilot, with droplets even making their way onto the CO's flight suit...and face. The pilot's horrified as the CO asks..."That isn't what I think it was, was it?" The pilot replies "''fraid so, Skipper...I was just doing what you told me to do!" While spitting out a droplet of his pilot's piss that made it to his lips, the CO replies, "Ah gently caress this, you passed, let's RTB."
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I've got a relief tube story to go with that one, courtesy of my father who flew 46Ds and 53Es, who enjoyed the story: "I don't know how I'm ever going to pass this qual." "Urine luck!"
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"I don't know how I'm ever going to pass this qual." "Urine luck!" God drat you
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"I don't know how I'm ever going to pass this qual." "Urine luck!" Better than the poo poo luck of that f/a-pilot who boltered 
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Nuclear Tourist posted:The only Michael Tracey take that really matters: ....General Pavel? Is that you?
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The one weird trick for passing your flight exams THEY don’t want you to know
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I made it to the thread title! Let's see how long it lasts. Florida Man Accused of Driving to Space Force Base in Stolen Truck to Warn of Aliens quote:A Florida man has been arrested after he was accused of stealing a pickup truck and driving to a Space Force base to warn the government about extraterrestrial and mythical creatures.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I made it to the thread title! Let's see how long it lasts. Similar thing happened a couple years back at the Trident base in Bangor, dude carjacked some lady and rammed the gate to tell everyone about all the bombs that someone had planted on his house, and on the car he stole. https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/news/local/2019/03/08/navy-closes-bangor-gates-truck-crash-man-child/3109086002/
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Elviscat posted:Similar thing happened a couple years back at the Trident base in Bangor, dude carjacked some lady and rammed the gate to tell everyone about all the bombs that someone had planted on his house, and on the car he stole. Honesty is refreshing.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I made it to the thread title! Let's see how long it lasts. Finally, the hero we deserve.
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Was anyone else's takeaway from that article: "Space Force HAS BASES??"
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Imagined posted:Was anyone else's takeaway from that article: "Space Force HAS BASES??"
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Imagined posted:Was anyone else's takeaway from that article: "Space Force HAS BASES??" The first time I saw “PATRICK SPACE FORCE BASE” on an exit sign from I95 I almost had to pull the car over I was laughing so hard.
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Imagined posted:Was anyone else's takeaway from that article: "Space Force HAS BASES??" Buckley outside of Denver is a Space Force base now but last time I used the commissary all of the security people were still AF and civilian rent-a-cops
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Imagined posted:Was anyone else's takeaway from that article: "Space Force HAS BASES??" I already knew because my company already sold product to the one at Canaveral.
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Internet Wizard posted:Buckley outside of Denver is a Space Force base now but last time I used the commissary all of the security people were still AF and civilian rent-a-cops It's gonna be like that for a long time, because Space Force is a loving jobs program for O-6s and above, not an actual separate service. This will change very slowly.
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> Johnson reportedly explained to authorities "he was told by the president" to warn "the government there was US aliens fighting with Chinese dragons." badass i would watch us aliens fight chinese dragons any day
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There's one thing I definitely respect about the Space Force, and it's the fact that they wear their US flag patch on their left side, so that it doesn't look "backwards". The autistic side of me has always hated that about US uniforms since I first saw ACUs in-person in tech school.
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Scratch Monkey posted:No wind in space What do you call solar wind then smart guy?
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BUG JUG posted:What do you call solar wind then smart guy? 
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Jimmy Smuts posted:There's one thing I definitely respect about the Space Force, and it's the fact that they wear their US flag patch on their left side, so that it doesn't look "backwards". The autistic side of me has always hated that about US uniforms since I first saw ACUs in-person in tech school. That's an Air Force thing they carried over.
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