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Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Jerkos. EVERYWHERE!

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Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012
Yor finally figured out what we've all known for years, this calls for a celebration. Now to wait two and a half years before Loid stops making excuses and admits he might actually like his family.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Nightfall is like that dog who finally caught up to the car being chased and now has no idea what to do next.

I do not know Millie but I wish her better than settling for too edgy too extreme Hemlocke.

And Yor finally had her moment. Bless her heart, may she be kissed by her husband soon. Who's a jerko currently.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
/vibrating

kiss your wife loid do it do it do it do it right now

Hidingo Kojimba
Mar 29, 2010

"I love papa slightly more than omurice." Truly the words of a devoted daughter.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

Funny as hell that it was Becky's advice of all people that got Yor to confess her feelings to herself.

Truly she is a romantic genius.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
OH MY GOD PROGRESS.

Fecha
Nov 4, 2006

Did I... did I miss anything important?

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

Funny as hell that it was Becky's advice of all people that got Yor to confess her feelings to herself.

Truly she is a romantic genius.
But unwittingly working against herself

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
man this chapter was an absolute banquet compared to some others. getting bits of every corner of the story, I'm loving it

Hemlock shenanigans are a-go! yor kiss your husband go! operation strix possibly moving forward more go!

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
hemlock is going to fall in love, normiefy, get married and have kids before loid accepts he loves yor

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Captain Invictus posted:

hemlock is going to fall in love, normiefy, get married and have kids before loid accepts he loves yor

yeah, that man has an emotionally significant haircut in his future.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Captain Invictus posted:

hemlock is going to fall in love, normiefy, get married and have kids before loid accepts he loves yor

I hate that this is a realistic potential outcome :smith: Goddamn, I can't believe Yor, a person who might have a legit 3 INT, figured herself out before her supposedly-super-spy husband did.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

CommissarMega posted:

I hate that this is a realistic potential outcome :smith: Goddamn, I can't believe Yor, a person who might have a legit 3 INT, figured herself out before her supposedly-super-spy husband did.

Starlight Anya does it again!

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

Funny as hell that it was Becky's advice of all people that got Yor to confess her feelings to herself.

Truly she is a romantic genius.

Starlight Becky does it again!

narm00
Feb 18, 2006

CommissarMega posted:

I hate that this is a realistic potential outcome :smith: Goddamn, I can't believe Yor, a person who might have a legit 3 INT, figured herself out before her supposedly-super-spy husband did.

Better emotional intelligence score.

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013

CommissarMega posted:

I hate that this is a realistic potential outcome :smith: Goddamn, I can't believe Yor, a person who might have a legit 3 INT, figured herself out before her supposedly-super-spy husband did.

Loid has 18 INT and is currently using 17.9 points of it to rationalize away his feelings for his family. (0.1 point goes toward all his spy stuff, and it's more than enough)

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

CommissarMega posted:

I hate that this is a realistic potential outcome :smith: Goddamn, I can't believe Yor, a person who might have a legit 3 INT, figured herself out before her supposedly-super-spy husband did.
I more said it in a humorous way, as in Hemlock is going to rapid-fire through his romance in a matter of like, 2 volumes max

"ha ha, what was I thinking, being alone is so miserable!"

actually...in reality that could potentially end really really badly for him if he goes TOO normie, jeopardizing his role in The Garden

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
I mean, Yor's book dumb, but has always been more in touch with her emotions and thinks deeply about her family.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT
Yor's build dumped INT but not WIS

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

anya using "hath" all the time is both great and a nice nod to prior worldbuilding with her one academic strength being classical language

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
It is really hard to get me to give a poo poo about romances in general, but I went "ohhh shiiiiiit" at the two page spread in this week's comic

Lt. Lizard posted:

Loid has 18 INT and is currently using 17.9 points of it to rationalize away his feelings for his family. (0.1 point goes toward all his spy stuff, and it's more than enough)

I don't think it's that Loid is ambivalent about his family, he's just focused on the mission above all else, so it takes a hell of a lot to get him to think about anything outside of that context

OnimaruXLR fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jul 21, 2025

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

i was just as shocked as anya that yor got a math problem right

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

i was just as shocked as anya that yor got a math problem right

Turns out that much like Anya if you can relate things back to murder the brain activates

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Lmao

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

i assume that's just what's running on loop in nightfall's head after this chapter

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

OnimaruXLR posted:

It is really hard to get me to give a poo poo about romances in general, but I went "ohhh shiiiiiit" at the two page spread in this week's comic

I don't think it's that Loid is ambivalent about his family, he's just focused on the mission above all else, so it takes a hell of a lot to get him to think about anything outside of that context

Another complicating factor I've talked about before is that the more he actually catches feelings for his family, the more he's likely to want to distance himself from them. Using an innocent woman and child as cover in high-risk international espionage is already kind of a jerk move, and Loid's got enough of a moral centre that I can see him being very reluctant about actually leading on people he cares about to believe that a temporary business arrangement might be something more.

Yor can afford to fall in love because that would just make her another Garden agent with a family, which is just fine in her employers' books. Loid can't because he's on a fixed-term mission in hostile territory, and that means he can't give anyone else a relationship built to last.

Nerdietalk
Dec 23, 2014

I was pushing for Frost/Yuri just for the disaster of that partnership but Frost/Hemlock has some really messy potential.

Combat Lobster
Feb 18, 2013

Nerdietalk posted:

I was pushing for Frost/Yuri just for the disaster of that partnership but Frost/Hemlock has some really messy potential.

Just need to add an adopted kid and you have the inverse Forgers.

Cadmium Sampler
Nov 1, 2024

by vyelkin

Darth Walrus posted:

Another complicating factor I've talked about before is that the more he actually catches feelings for his family, the more he's likely to want to distance himself from them. Using an innocent woman and child as cover in high-risk international espionage is already kind of a jerk move, and Loid's got enough of a moral centre that I can see him being very reluctant about actually leading on people he cares about to believe that a temporary business arrangement might be something more.

Yor can afford to fall in love because that would just make her another Garden agent with a family, which is just fine in her employers' books. Loid can't because he's on a fixed-term mission in hostile territory, and that means he can't give anyone else a relationship built to last.

Well that's the thing, just how fixed-term is it? Loid's superiors themselves say Operation Strix is a long-term mission. Even in their best-case scenario where they get Loid in with the owl man and he and his people really aren't a threat to peace, they need to keep Loid and Anya there anyway to keep tabs on him and the rest of Ostania's bigwigs. Loid's likely in it for the long haul, which means so are Anya and Yor.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤
I think folks are overlooking the other ticking clock introduced in this chapter, that Loid has tasked WISE with digging into Yor's past. How long until Garden notices foreign agents sniffing around?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Squidster posted:

I think folks are overlooking the other ticking clock introduced in this chapter, that Loid has tasked WISE with digging into Yor's past. How long until Garden notices foreign agents sniffing around?

"It seems like she was a butcher at some point to support her brother? Just seems like most of the stories we get from her neighbors in their home town mention her being covered in blood sometimes"

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Nerdietalk posted:

I was pushing for Frost/Yuri just for the disaster of that partnership but Frost/Hemlock has some really messy potential.

Yuri/Hemlock

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution

Squidster posted:

I think folks are overlooking the other ticking clock introduced in this chapter, that Loid has tasked WISE with digging into Yor's past. How long until Garden notices foreign agents sniffing around?

I thought about it, but it's to be seen when that will actually go off. Remember that the Shopkeeper is interested in Loid's political inclinations but nothing has come of that and it's been since it was brought up almost halfway back into the series (chapter 66) almost 3 years ago. There are just too many spinning plates with the various plotlines, Yor and Melinda don't hang out that often and when we do see Melinda it's more to develop the relationships within the Desmond household. Loid hasn't even seen Donovan in irl years so his eventual proximity to the NUP hasn't created cause for the Garden to investigate him as well. and they otherwise don't seem to care about him.

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
Trailer for the next season of the anime dropped. Looks like they plan to cover the arc on how Loid became Twilight.
English subtitles in closed caption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdB4IDEHFYk

narm00
Feb 18, 2006

Brought To You By posted:

Loid hasn't even seen Donovan in irl years so his eventual proximity to the NUP hasn't created cause for the Garden to investigate him as well. and they otherwise don't seem to care about him.

They've met once over the course of the story, which has been about six months, but the point that it wouldn't give Garden cause to investigate Loid still holds.

Nerdietalk
Dec 23, 2014

Ytlaya posted:

Yuri/Hemlock

:hmmyes:

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution

narm00 posted:

They've met once over the course of the story, which has been about six months, but the point that it wouldn't give Garden cause to investigate Loid still holds.

The Garden still had a reason to investigate the husband to their assassin, especially if the Shopkeeper was upfront with warning Yor about her own proximity to Melinda with a not so subtle "you might have to kill her one day" threat. (at least that was my read, the shopkeeper doesn't seem fond of the conservative party)

My point is that having Loid incite WISE to look into Yor's background doesn't really ping my radar because the other intelligence agency hasn't made a move either despite also having at least an initial prompt. When it happens it will happen, but it's not something I think will matter anytime soon given how long it takes any of these threads to develop or be relevant.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Brought To You By posted:

The Garden still had a reason to investigate the husband to their assassin, especially if the Shopkeeper was upfront with warning Yor about her own proximity to Melinda with a not so subtle "you might have to kill her one day" threat. (at least that was my read, the shopkeeper doesn't seem fond of the conservative party)

My point is that having Loid incite WISE to look into Yor's background doesn't really ping my radar because the other intelligence agency hasn't made a move either despite also having at least an initial prompt. When it happens it will happen, but it's not something I think will matter anytime soon given how long it takes any of these threads to develop or be relevant.


I think Loid should kiss his wife

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution

thetoughestbean posted:

I think Loid should kiss his wife

:hmmyes:

Ice Train
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?

thetoughestbean posted:

I think Loid should kiss his wife

yes

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Curtana
Feb 17, 2011

thetoughestbean posted:

I think Loid should kiss his wife

Disagree, I think it'd be wrong for Loid to kiss Yor while she knows nothing about the truth and Loid's mission.

Loid should reveal his identity to Yor and Anya, having a long and open and honest discussion about what he intends to do with this mission, making sure there's some way they can leave safely if they don't want to stay, and having options for if they do choose to stay.

Then Loid should kiss his wife.

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