New around here? Register your SA Forums Account here!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $10! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills alone, and since we don't believe in shady internet advertising, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
At last, a normal family

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.


Behold! a normal family dinner!

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Well, that sure begs a whole bunch of analysis, doesn't it?

Farg
Nov 19, 2013
drat all these people are freaks

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
that is one of the most powerful manga chapters I have read in a LONG time

jesus that was so well done. perfectly captured the atmosphere, awkwardness, separation, fear, and disconnectedness of them all.

man I feel so bad for Damian.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

C'mon, Jack! You should be grateful I only blew your children to pieces using the little bombs!
Thinking that Desmond too can read minds, and he just read Damian's mind about what Anya told him at the dance.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Captain Invictus posted:

that is one of the most powerful manga chapters I have read in a LONG time

jesus that was so well done. perfectly captured the atmosphere, awkwardness, separation, fear, and disconnectedness of them all.

man I feel so bad for Damian.

Damian being happy his dad said anything vaguely positive to him at all is kinda heartbreaking.

Wonder if we'll get a Forger Family meal next chapter as a contrast.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018
What everyone else said. Man you could cut that tension with a knife.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

I don't think there's any material in the world that could cut that tension.

Electric Phantasm posted:

Damian being happy his dad said anything vaguely positive to him at all is kinda heartbreaking.

Wonder if we'll get a Forger Family meal next chapter as a contrast.

:pray:
It would be cool.
Kiss your wife Lloyd

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Omobono posted:

I don't think there's any material in the world that could cut that tension.

Yor could do it.

I want the Desmonds to invite Yor and Loid to dinner.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Failed my 2025 Anime Resolution
You know it's good when you can FEEL how awkward the whole encounter is.

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Electric Phantasm posted:

Damian being happy his dad said anything vaguely positive to him at all is kinda heartbreaking.

Wonder if we'll get a Forger Family meal next chapter as a contrast.

my dinner with anya

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Genuinely great use of the art and minimal dialogue to sell just how awful this must've felt for everyone involved. What an awkward family meal.

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Tree Goat posted:

my dinner with anya

"I think that Berlint is the new model for the new concentration camp, where the camp has been built by the inmates themselves, and the inmates are the guards, and they have this pride in this thing that they’ve built—they’ve built their own prison—and so they exist in a state of schizophrenia where they are both guards and prisoners. And as a result they no longer have—having been lobotomized—the capacity to leave the prison they’ve made or even to see it as a prison.” And then she went into her pocket, and she took out a peanut, and she said, “This is a peanut.” And she put it in my hand. And she said, “Escape before it’s too late.”

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!
Getting the feeling Mr. Desmond runs his life on the idea that all words could be lies, and so non-verbal (and indeed psychic) communication is best. And this is the result for everyone else.

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.
https://x.com/_tatsuyaendo_/status/1845488572964683956

So has the dog also been experimented on or is it just a coincidence that he also has the Desmond stare™.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.


InspectorCarbonara posted:

https://x.com/_tatsuyaendo_/status/1845488572964683956

So has the dog also been experimented on or is it just a coincidence that he also has the Desmond stare™.

So far just seems like a dog doing Doggo things.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

TheKingofSprings posted:

Thinking that Desmond too can read minds, and he just read Damian's mind about what Anya told him at the dance.

Yeah I admit I have never liked the "Desmond can read minds" theory but it would explain a lot of his behavior/mannerisms, and it would explain his "worthwhile" comment if he found out Anya's secret via Damian just now. That said the only 2 holes I can see would be 1.) that Anya can generally only read pretty surface-level thoughts, though I suppose you could explain that away by saying Donovan's just better at it since he's an adult and a weirdo, and 2.) He met Loid face-to-face and Loid is still active and hasn't been like disappeared or exposed or anything.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


That sudden glance at what appears to be one of the butlers, or what appears to be a revelation he got. It's pretty worrying, whatever that was.

But, otherwise, just your normal family dinner.

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013
After all that silly, fanciful, fantasy, unbelievable dinners you regularly encounter in fiction, someone finally captured what an actually normal dinner, with an actually normal family looks like. Bravo.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

MAV Tactics
The only way to make a more awkward family dinner would have been for someone to bring up politics.

Scallop Eyes
Oct 15, 2021

Blaze Dragon posted:

Genuinely great use of the art and minimal dialogue to sell just how awful this must've felt for everyone involved. What an awkward family meal.

Honestly think Demetrius doesn't have any kind of problem with that kind of dinner.

Desumaytah
Apr 23, 2005

Intensity, .mpeg gritty, Intelligence
Has Loid ever acknowledged the existence of Garden in this story? You'd think his intel would be on top of a group of basically superhuman assassins. Has he mentioned hearing anything about Ostania developing a secret psychic program?

As it stands, he's usually the smartest and most competent man in the room, but his family are all basically demigods hiding just under surface-level and it's a fantastic part of the narrative. He could solve all of his problems by just getting to know his wife, daughter, and dog, but his determination to keep them all at arm's length in order to be a perfect spy is probably the biggest obstacle to his own mission. He's the perfect spy, but Anya and Yor and even Bond have saved his rear end on more than one occasion and he's never been able to recognize that.

If the theories about Desmond having mind powers are true (And I think there's a better-than-not chance they are), Loid's going to have a rude awakening about how exactly this game is really played.

This series rules.

narm00
Feb 18, 2006

Desumaytah posted:

Has Loid ever acknowledged the existence of Garden in this story? You'd think his intel would be on top of a group of basically superhuman assassins. Has he mentioned hearing anything about Ostania developing a secret psychic program?

He knows Garden exists, discussing it with Franky just before the cruise arc, though Franky has better intel on them. Psychic powers, no - he knows of the project that enhanced Bond's intellect, but doesn't know it gave him precognition.

narm00 fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 13, 2024

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

InspectorCarbonara posted:

https://x.com/_tatsuyaendo_/status/1845488572964683956

So has the dog also been experimented on or is it just a coincidence that he also has the Desmond stare™.

max is a good boy he was just excited to see damien but yeah the eyes seem deliberate, and we already know about bond

other than that agree with what people have already mentioned: excellent chapter, i feel very bad for damien, and donovan can probably read minds. also curious what demetrius' deal is because it doesn't seem to be the same thing

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:
Man Man Damian looking at his mother for any kinda of assistance and her just looking away like that hurts

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug
Man Damian, give up on your family and just hang out with Anya more. Just like Loid planned

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


donovan has autism and genuinely enjoyed being able to have dinner with his whole family

it was silent because he doesn't do well with small talk (because autism)

his wife is bipolar

his elder son(s) are also neurodivergent

damian isn't old enough to understand mental illness yet

and yeah donovan can probably also read minds

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

where the red fern gropes posted:

donovan has autism and genuinely enjoyed being able to have dinner with his whole family

it was silent because he doesn't do well with small talk (because autism)

his wife is bipolar

his elder son(s) are also neurodivergent

damian isn't old enough to understand mental illness yet

and yeah donovan can probably also read minds

...It's weird how realistic this all sounds. I legit wanna see Mrs. Desmond seeing Loid for therapy on recommendation of Yor. Would be a legit fascinating chapter.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

doomrider7 posted:

...It's weird how realistic this all sounds. I legit wanna see Mrs. Desmond seeing Loid for therapy on recommendation of Yor. Would be a legit fascinating chapter.

"Have you tried roundhouse kicking your husband, my wife does it and it seems to work out for her. You might need to get drunk first, though."

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Yeah this was a very affecting chapter :catstare:

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Like, the difference betweent Melinda/Damien's eyes and Donovan's/Brothers eyes was really good

Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Oct 14, 2024

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

stuker posted:

max is a good boy he was just excited to see damien but yeah the eyes seem deliberate, and we already know about bond

other than that agree with what people have already mentioned: excellent chapter, i feel very bad for damien, and donovan can probably read minds. also curious what demetrius' deal is because it doesn't seem to be the same thing

Donovan had creep eyes even as a kid back in Henderson's flashback, so clearly that is, to an extent, just apparently part of the Desmond bloodline. So Demetrius takes after his dad whereas Damian is more like his mom... only without whatever is going on up in her noggin...

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

Some observations that may mean nothing other than continuing the atmosphere.

Donovan doesn't begin eating until the rest of the table has begun.
Melinda doesn't eat anything.
Demetrius only makes responses.
Damian and Demetrius do not sit directly opposite each other - Damian is slightly closer to their mother while Demetrius is slightly closer to their father, but there's a gap on either side anyway.
Donovan looks from Demetrius, to Damien, to Melinda, holding his stare until his eyes narrow (that latter two reacted to his stare).
He waits for the rest of the room to leave to talk to Damian.
His eyes are narrowed again as he leaves, with an implication that what he found "worthwhile" was not, in fact, what Jeeves stated.


If we assume some level of esper power at play, it also occurs, from Anya's earlier PoVs that Demetrius has what could be termed a perfect mental defense, and Melinda's thoughts, while less absolutely impenetrable, are also constantly in flux between extremes...which would seemingly at least muddy the waters against intrusion. Damian doesn't have anything that could be described as an outright guard.

ViviValentine
Aug 16, 2013

gay elf noises

Holy gently caress, that chapter

My heart is still beating, how the gently caress did Endo DO that!?

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

doomrider7 posted:

...It's weird how realistic this all sounds. I legit wanna see Mrs. Desmond seeing Loid for therapy on recommendation of Yor. Would be a legit fascinating chapter.

much like the previous poster suggested that loid’s spy mission would be dramatically easier if he revealed the truth to his family and learned to genuinely trust and rely on them, similarly the central conflicts in the manga would be dramatically easier to resolve if loid were primarily a psychologist who had a side gig doing spy stuff a rather than vice versa

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

Tree Goat posted:

much like the previous poster suggested that loid’s spy mission would be dramatically easier if he revealed the truth to his family and learned to genuinely trust and rely on them, similarly the central conflicts in the manga would be dramatically easier to resolve if loid were primarily a psychologist who had a side gig doing spy stuff a rather than vice versa

yor should also have to explain that she murders people for a living.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Rubellavator posted:

yor should also have to explain that she murders people for a living.

Yor having to explain to Anya that being a highly skilled badass assassin is not as cool as she thinks it it. :smith:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

MAV Tactics

Electric Phantasm posted:

Yor having to explain to Anya that being a highly skilled badass assassin is not as cool as she thinks it it. :smith:

"Look, Anya, I know you think that being an assassin is cool, but it's largely intense fast-paced battles against a variety of well-trained and extremely talented foes with fantastic animation!"

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Rubellavator posted:

yor should also have to explain that she murders people for a living.

Yor is a public servant and murders on the side. It's "other duties as assigned."

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply