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Jim Ross
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:

Happy Landfill posted:

Sorry I can't get over Anya in that mask from the previous chapter :allears:

It's the "HRGAH" she makes that make me love it the most

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Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
New thread subtitle: Hrgah hrgah!

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

The music notes imply she's saying it to a tune.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/spy-x-family-chapter-110/chapter/45203?action=read

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023166

:getin:

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
Let's loving gooooooooo

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

well this could go a number of ways

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


"For real?"

Indeed, Anya, indeed.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
wow, can't believe anya is an alien

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
It's hilarious that Loid's therapy route went along both the professional, accepted route (recognizing the suffering of the patient even if the cause seems outlandish, keeping communication open, reassuring that things can be improved) and then also just veered right off a cliff (Hey, he might just be a mutant or a ghost! Let me feed you other delusions to potentially pushyou even furhter away from reality!)

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

Fangz posted:

wow, can't believe anya is an alien

It's why she wear the cones. They hide her antenna.

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

https://twitter.com/_tatsuyaendo_/status/1880167887190782378

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
I don't know what it is, but something about Anya's conclusion at the end of the chapter made me confident that it's not actually true (or at least, not 1:1 the same)

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012
Donovan's inner monologue is either horrific or... still horrific, but also kind of funny.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

OnimaruXLR posted:

I don't know what it is, but something about Anya's conclusion at the end of the chapter made me confident that it's not actually true (or at least, not 1:1 the same)

There's definitely some sort of catch otherwise this manga would have ended a while back when Loid met Donovan the first time.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Donovan's version of ESP is flawed. Likely just confirming his previous thoughts about the target or otherwise distorted, leading to his strange behavior and creepy effect on others.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
I mean I think the true mastermind is demetrius still and I think today's chapter is consistent with that.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

OnimaruXLR posted:

I don't know what it is, but something about Anya's conclusion at the end of the chapter made me confident that it's not actually true (or at least, not 1:1 the same)

I've been of the thought that he can read peoples emotions and feelings hence why he's so distant and aloof. He doesn't that Loid is a spy, but he can sense that he has some ulterior motive, but not the why.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Electric Phantasm posted:

There's definitely some sort of catch otherwise this manga would have ended a while back when Loid met Donovan the first time.

Yeah Loid would totally be disappeared by now if Donovan actually got a read on him. I mean I guess you could argue that maybe Donovan has surveillance on Loid, but Loid's been actively running other side ops against Ostania in the mean time, so like, it's doing him no good to keep letting Loid go free.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:



They... they're among us!

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Sephyr posted:

It's hilarious that Loid's therapy route went along both the professional, accepted route (recognizing the suffering of the patient even if the cause seems outlandish, keeping communication open, reassuring that things can be improved) and then also just veered right off a cliff (Hey, he might just be a mutant or a ghost! Let me feed you other delusions to potentially pushyou even furhter away from reality!)

all laying the groundwork for the shounen adaptation of the three christs of ypsilanti that will be spy x family part 2

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!

doomrider7 posted:

I've been of the thought that he can read peoples emotions and feelings hence why he's so distant and aloof. He doesn't that Loid is a spy, but he can sense that he has some ulterior motive, but not the why.

Even if Donovan had psychically read that Loid was trying to use his daughter's enrollment in the school and relationship with Damian to get close to Donovan, that would be completely expected and not even something you'd need psychic powers to guess at.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

ZiegeDame posted:

Even if Donovan had psychically read that Loid was trying to use his daughter's enrollment in the school and relationship with Damian to get close to Donovan, that would be completely expected and not even something you'd need psychic powers to guess at.

True. It's kind of hard to explain. There's a Webtoon called Space Boy where female MC has something like what I'm talking about.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
If Donovan can flat out read minds then Loid has been found out for sure, which would then beg the question "what does Donovan gain from letting WISE operate in Ostania?"

DrakePegasus
Jan 30, 2009

It was Plundersaurus Rex's dream to be the greatest pirate dragon ever.

BearDrivingTruck posted:

If Donovan can flat out read minds then Loid has been found out for sure, which would then beg the question "what does Donovan gain from letting WISE operate in Ostania?"

The removal of other forces of war and chaos outside of his immediate control, with no personal cost or investment.

Desumaytah
Apr 23, 2005

Intensity, .mpeg gritty, Intelligence

BearDrivingTruck posted:

If Donovan can flat out read minds then Loid has been found out for sure, which would then beg the question "what does Donovan gain from letting WISE operate in Ostania?"

The chance to get an enemy faction's best undercover agents all in one place for some very important gardening.

Desumaytah fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jan 20, 2025

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.
I went back to the chapter where they met to see specifically what Loid was thinking at the time and he literally thinks "I am a spy after all" lol.
So yeah either Donovan doesn't have full on mind reading, had some weird restriction at the time like Anya's full moon thing, or is aware and is letting Loid operate for some reason.

Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


My guess is Donovan's mind reading ability works too well, meaning he hears the voices of everyone around him for a wide range, hence his strange appearance and why he doesn't speak much (he has to concentrate extra hard on one person in order to give an answer), so when he met Lloyd he was so overwhelmed by noise around him he couldn't pick up any of Lloyd's 'I AM THE GREATEST SPY WHO EVER LIVED' internal monologue.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Donovan mistook Loid for Daybreak and he is understandably scared.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
My bet is that Donovan isn't a 'natural' telepath like Anya, and was granted his powers through the unethical experimentation program that she and Bond were subjected to. He's a Cyber-Newtype rather than the real deal, to use Gundam terminology, and the practical and karmic consequence for him sacrificing cute kids and animals to muck around with forces beyond his comprehension is that he got half the power and twice the insanity of the average telepath.

That also gives him and his goons a motive to hunt down Anya, because she's got a better version of what he's got.

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

Fangz posted:

I mean I think the true mastermind is demetrius still and I think today's chapter is consistent with that.

the "was it shortly after my first child, or the second?" line definitely gives off that vibe

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER

BearDrivingTruck posted:

If Donovan can flat out read minds then Loid has been found out for sure, which would then beg the question "what does Donovan gain from letting WISE operate in Ostania?"

If he does want to start a war, a good excuse if he plays his cards right. He might know Loid is a spy, and he could definitely have him arrested if he wanted, but he has no guarantee that would link him to anything big. If he acts at the right time and gets concrete proof, though, that could be the powder-keg to getting what he wants.

Alternatively, his goal is really something else and he doesn't care what Loid does, since if a spy is operating under wrong assumptions there's not much reason to correct him.

Justin_Brett fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jan 20, 2025

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


i really really hope donovan is a mind reader but is also just an awkward dude who wants to make friends (with an alien, like Starlight Anya)

Fangz posted:

I mean I think the true mastermind is demetrius still and I think today's chapter is consistent with that.

this is an amazing predict :nice:

Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010


Illegal Hen

TwoPair posted:

Yeah Loid would totally be disappeared by now if Donovan actually got a read on him. I mean I guess you could argue that maybe Donovan has surveillance on Loid, but Loid's been actively running other side ops against Ostania in the mean time, so like, it's doing him no good to keep letting Loid go free.

Maybe he thinks Loid would make for a worthy ally? I could see him wanting to recruit Loid, either by converting him or by strongarming him once Loid's caught in a trap.

But I am also fully on board with him thinking spies are neat just like his favourite TV show.

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.

https://twitter.com/_tatsuyaendo_/status/1881281367134417125

Desumaytah
Apr 23, 2005

Intensity, .mpeg gritty, Intelligence
If Donovan's a mind reader, and he's seen Loid in person, he's going to clock that the world's greatest spy is working against him, and that this guy has a wife and child he thinks about constantly, no matter how hard he tries not to.

There's good odds that Donovan knows that Yor is Garden's (And, likely, his) prize assassin. There's an outside chance he'd recognize Anya as the product of an experimental program funded with government dark money, because Donovan, himself, probably bankrolled, and might be one of the results of, said program.

So what happens if you can successfully feign total vulnerability to the finest intelligence officer of your country's most dangerous rival state? What happens when you have personal leverage over him?

If Donovan's a real villain, dude's primed to set up a trap for all of the important players of WISE in Ostanian borders, and it's a trap that's going to (mostly) work.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
the key point is that loid does not know about anya and anya has been asleep when she was near desmond. it's very deliberate.

Desumaytah
Apr 23, 2005

Intensity, .mpeg gritty, Intelligence

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

the key point is that loid does not know about anya and anya has been asleep when she was near desmond. it's very deliberate.

Loid definitely thinks about Anya, though. If Desmond can read minds, all he has to do is recognize her from Loid's brain, even if Loid, himself, is none-the-wiser. That's several big ifs, though.

However, Desmond is likely very aware of Yor.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Desumaytah posted:

Loid definitely thinks about Anya, though. If Desmond can read minds, all he has to do is recognize her from Loid's brain, even if Loid, himself, is none-the-wiser. That's several big ifs, though.

However, Desmond is likely very aware of Yor.

It turns out Desmond is also highly invested in Loid and Yor's relationship.

narm00
Feb 18, 2006

Desumaytah posted:

There's good odds that Donovan knows that Yor is Garden's (And, likely, his) prize assassin. There's an outside chance he'd recognize Anya as the product of an experimental program funded with government dark money, because Donovan, himself, probably bankrolled, and might be one of the results of, said program.

I dunno. The Shopkeeper's not exactly seemed on board the Desmond train - in fact, he even seemed suspicious when he heard Loid was making approving noises about Donovan.

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BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
Garden seems to be an independent but patriotic organization. They're not beholden to Ostania's government (and as pointed out, don't really approve of the current ruling party) but they consider what they're doing to be for the sake of Ostania

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