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Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk




ikanreed posted:

Imagine if the prequels hadn't dropped the ball on this one loving thing, and we saw qui gon cutting up what we understood to be impressed sentient creatures for the sake of loving trade deals.

Just that one thing done better.

But instead just "Roger Roger I'm a thing that can die en masse and still get a PG rating"

a lot of the old EU stuff expands on the idea that if you don't forcibly wipe the memory of your slaves every year, they start to get all these weird ideas about having autonomy and start questioning why they're continuing to put up with your bullshit

as you can guess, some of the writers handled it rather poorly!

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Serf
May 5, 2011




ikanreed posted:

It doesn't take much thought to put together, but you can totally take a surface read of "yeah the red eye things are just selling stolen robots"

i mean maybe. but robots don't lament their lot in life. hell, later on we see artoo escape and threepio is briefly tortured by luke to find out where he went

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009



Serf posted:

once lucas sold off the franchise it basically became terrible fanfiction. he wasn't using it, and he never cared about it as much as the superfans, but now that the patients are running the asylum poo poo has just nosedived so hard

This presupposes that the prequels are good

Serf
May 5, 2011




Mayor Dave posted:

This presupposes that the prequels are good

*takes drag off of cigarette* they are

etalian
Mar 20, 2006



Mayor Dave posted:

This presupposes that the prequels are good

All the secret history of star wars pretty much shows he was only good because he had multiple to compensate for his various weaknesses as a director.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





Serf posted:

i mean maybe. but robots don't lament their lot in life. hell, later on we see artoo escape and threepio is briefly tortured by luke to find out where he went

Yes. I know. The writers very obviously worked on that theme throughout the whole first movie, and to a lesser extent 5 and 6. You definitely can't see past "we don't serve their kind here"

But I guarantee most Star wars fans never considered it.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

nope just me lain


the prequels are watchable

Serf
May 5, 2011




ikanreed posted:

Yes. I know. The writers very obviously worked on that theme throughout the whole first movie, and to a lesser extent 5 and 6. You definitely can't see past "we don't serve their kind here"

But I guarantee most Star wars fans never considered it.

star wars fans don't like star wars

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Put robot torture back in Star Wars

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010




Stairmaster posted:

the prequels are watchable

idk attack of the clones is a drag

but nothing is as bad as force awakens, which feels like it was made by a movie script generator

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

nope just me lain


aotc has dumb spectacle at the end

Serf
May 5, 2011




aotc has a great detective story about the world's most thinly-disguised mystery, being strung along like a puppet, and he never becomes aware of the fact that he was played

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011



the jedi order is good, actually, because it's led by people named "gumpus gorpus" and "yumble" and "quib quob" instead of people named "darth icky" or "darth badguy"

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


The screams of the GOnk echo through the catacombs as the skeleton robot puts the hot plate against his steam shooters

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014



Star Wars

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fully Automated Luxury Space Dog


Darth Incel
Darth Pooa
Darth Tradcath
Darth Fasce

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Pig Demon to the Skeleton Robot: Turn on the Gonk's pain module and his screaming module so that the heat of the plate registers as pain to the steam shooters on his cute rear end feet.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010




https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Socialism

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011



"was this powerful sith lord a badguy or a goodguy" anakin asked the old senator

"oh, he was a very good guy," the senator said, as he stroked anakin's 30 year old teenage hair, "his name was darth epstein"

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010




https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Fascism/Legends

quote:

Fascism played a large role in the creation of the Star Wars trilogy, with the story treatment notes for Star Wars (then-titled The Star Wars) made by series creator George Lucas in 1973 stating, among others, "Theme: Aquilae is a small independent country like North Vietnam threatened by a neighbor or provincial rebellion, instigated by gangsters aided by empire. Fight to get rightful planet back. Half of system has been lost to gangsters[…]The Empire is like America ten years from now[…]We are at a turning point: fascism or revolution".[3]

THS
Sep 15, 2017



can we stop with this star wars derail

oh poo poo wait im already in the pop culture containment thread

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

medio de fonte leporum surgo amariter




indiana jones is better than han solo

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





i say swears online posted:

indiana jones is better than han solo

What if the president knocked a terrorist off air force one and said "no ticket"

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


There’s high quality robot torture in the Metabarons

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





Indiana Jones murdering some Egyptian and saying "it belongs in a British Museum"

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

medio de fonte leporum surgo amariter




it really is my guilty reactionary pleasure

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010



Legit Cyberpunk



A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

The screams of the GOnk echo through the catacombs as the skeleton robot puts the hot plate against his steam shooters

problematically hot

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004



Little leery because that guys got an anime avatar but otherwise lmao

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012




Uncle Wemus posted:

Little leery because that guys got an anime avatar but otherwise lmao

did a Reverse GIS and

quote:

Description and screenshots don't give a full impression of the game- it's a 'lolicon' dating simulator with lots of panty shots, sexual scenes and stuff that scirts on the borderline of being classified as 'nudity' by technicality alone.
The 'all-ages version' censorship patch is incorrectly named, this is very much not suitable for under 18s. The 'censorship' literally just whites out the screen during sex scenes, making them dialogue only. (With full voiceacting!) And it does nothing to remove gigantic cameltoe scenes or bare chests on these seemingly-underage characters.
I have nothing against people who enjoy that sort of game, but I'm asexual and this was a horrible surprise! Don't waste your money if you're expecting something like Recettear instead of Huniepop.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

~~ smooches ~~


jesus christ

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012




NVM: completely different weird anime thing

dude's timeline is suss with loli poo poo though

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

The screams of the GOnk echo through the catacombs as the skeleton robot puts the hot plate against his steam shooters

in the old EU () the torturer droid is actually a female personality type making here a sexy dominatrix

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 00:24 on Nov 19, 2019

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos


The whole "droids are slaves" thing falls apart the second you look at there place in the meta. They undeniably have personalities and a degree of free will, but at most they're just extentions of whatever person or group they're attached to, like a familiar. Trying to insert "doids rights" into Star Wars without making it a central conflict in the setting just comes off as a misguided attempt at virtue signaling.

Serf
May 5, 2011




MizPiz posted:

The whole "droids are slaves" thing falls apart the second you look at there place in the meta. They undeniably have personalities and a degree of free will, but at most they're just extentions of whatever person or group they're attached to, like a familiar. Trying to insert "doids rights" into Star Wars without making it a central conflict in the setting just comes off as a misguided attempt at virtue signaling.

incorrect. the movie is testing to see if you can have basic empathy for a being that doesn't look like you. the oppression of droids is built in from the base level of society. such that the "guardians of peace and justice" the jedi don't even deign to consider that droids are slaves

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fully Automated Luxury Space Dog


I started watching In This Corner of the World on Netflix just to have something to watch while I ate dinner and now it's got me all hosed up. A lot gets said about how it's impossible to make an effective anti-war movie, with Idi I Smotri being a major exception - but In This Corner of the World also really nails it from a very different approach. There are other anime movies about world war 2 that make you feel bad for the subjects like Grave of the Fireflies, but they mostly rely on base sentiments to string you along to its thesis. Corner really earns its emotional depth by building up its narrative and fully recreating the domestic life of imperial Japan. Every building and object has built up a historical significance because all of them are full of the same kind of stories that we see through the cast, which makes the impact of the war all the more devastating when it arrives. As the date counts down to the point that the raids and firebombings begin it metatextually takes on the tone of a horror movie. The protagonist also has enough talent to be a brilliant post-impressionist, but because of her domestic obligations and the burdens of the war can never work with colors until it ends up being far too late.

What a great loving movie. Give it a shot if you want to get all emotional and poo poo.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHE2JTNwsE

really good teardown of Jack Ryan

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!




what in the gently caress just happened in here i thought it was star wars chat jesus chirst.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Even if it was a misfire I always appreciate the instinct to expose the weeb

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


Freaking Crumbum posted:

i do like that vader's entire character arc from 4 > 6 is the story of a guy that really enjoys his original job (killing other wizards and flying space ships) and because he enjoys it he does really well at it, but then he does it so well that he gets promoted to a higher level of management, but his previous specialization in the skills of martial assassination and spaceship dueling are completely useless for his new role (being the project director of a massively bloated government defense contract) and he's clearly struggling to tread water with his boss (who is also going to look foolish if he promotes vader and then vader can't cut it) so he ends up having to fly through space to harangue various bureaucrats and other middle managers to make sure anything gets done on time and within budget, he has to hire with a bunch of 1099 contractors to cover up for his inability to effectively retain talent, and basically just shits the bed over every decision he has to make

truly, a character to which we can all relate

The first Vader comic from Marvel is set right after 4 and it's about Vader being called into the office and put on probation because he botched the big project and his job is on the line and then he murders his replacements with a laser sword

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012




does he have to murder the HR director too?

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


Dr. Killjoy posted:

does he have to murder the HR director too?

I don't remember

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