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tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

But Schefter said they Love Herbert?!


For how terrible they've been, England should be pretty happy to be only 3 down

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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006



Vaders Jester posted:

It's a nebulous law, if a team spends 5 minutes failing to do anything with that advantage, surely that's on them and advantage over, not just until they score a try or gently caress it right up?

so when do you draw the line? there's no time limit to advantage specified in the law

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




NGL I didn't think the England scrum would be skull hosed like it has been.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always


what the gently caress are all these scrum penalties for

3peat
May 6, 2010



drat, england is garbage. And their rugby team aint much better!

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003

lEt'S mOsEy





gently caress this ref.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013



I get that hating on England is popular but haters gonna hate and england will win this world cup, i hope you love being sour cos i love being great

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

But Schefter said they Love Herbert?!


Dell_Zincht posted:

gently caress this ref.

It would be less annoying if everyone hadn't called it beforehand

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

Welcome to fucking Scotland.




Julio Cruz posted:

so when do you draw the line? there's no time limit to advantage specified in the law

That's pretty much the problem with the law. It's entirely discretionary and if a team is in the 22 it's basically until they score or gently caress up which seems pretty dumb.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Looke posted:

I get that hating on England is popular but haters gonna hate and england will win this world cup, i hope you love being sour cos i love being great

Eh, they haven't shown anything suggesting they'll win. Unless Jones has something up his sleeve for a failing scrum they'll struggle.

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master




Vaders Jester posted:

That's pretty much the problem with the law. It's entirely discretionary and if a team is in the 22 it's basically until they score or gently caress up which seems pretty dumb.

But they canít gently caress up too quickly either.

Graces should have come back for the second penalty against Faf on the near side by the 22 considering there had been about a zillion phases from the initial call and England werenít able to do dick.

Pail Ale
Jul 3, 2007

Bucket Beer


Pillbug

Julio Cruz posted:

so when do you draw the line? there's no time limit to advantage specified in the law

It's not time, it's distance. If there's no infraction from the attacking team to call the penalty back, they can theoretically stay there for the whole game.

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Donncha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?
Donncha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me?


bessantj posted:

Eh, they haven't shown anything suggesting they'll win. Unless Jones has something up his sleeve for a failing scrum they'll struggle.

Pretty much. They look like a team that has already played their final last week, where the stars all aligned. Today, they've looked nervous and out of their depth.

Mister Chief
Jun 6, 2011



Eddie will take a injury in the front row so they go to uncontested scrums.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Vagabundo posted:

Pretty much. They look like a team that has already played their final last week, where the stars all aligned. Today, they've looked nervous and out of their depth.

They got everything from the breakdown last week. This week they're lucky to get a sniff. Total turnaround.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

Welcome to fucking Scotland.




Vagabundo posted:

Pretty much. They look like a team that has already played their final last week, where the stars all aligned. Today, they've looked nervous and out of their depth.

It's almost like England have trouble against sides they can't physically bully.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

Just a poor man's Park Ji Sung

Leapord


all i'm seeing every south africa scrum:

Looke
Aug 2, 2013



bloody ray purchase

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




England have played 3 1/2 world cup finals South Africa 2 1/2 and they've scored a combined total of 1 try in all that time.

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'





One tuilagi break could make all the difference here, still tight enough. For all SA's pressure they haven't been great going forward.

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017



bessantj posted:

England have played 3 1/2 world cup finals South Africa 2 1/2 and they've scored a combined total of 1 try in all that time.

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Donncha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?
Donncha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me?


Vaders Jester posted:

It's almost like England have trouble against sides they can't physically bully.

It would have helped if the All Blacks had turned up last week.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

Welcome to fucking Scotland.




At this stage, I don't mind if England win. Other than Billy V and Eddie, they all seem like good people but if they do lose and it's to a bizarro Garces penalty, Woodward might have a heart attack and save us ever hearing from him again.

Jeremor
Jun 1, 2009

Anyone foolish enough to stand in my path...
shall endure the pain of a thousand deaths...


man, de klerk is a little blonde missile flying in there every time

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'





Yeah if England win they'll have definitely deserved it after that semi performance.

Countdown until Cole goes down injured though?

MyChemicalImbalance fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Nov 2, 2019

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

But Schefter said they Love Herbert?!


They're hosed if the new saffers props can win scrum penalties like that

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

Welcome to fucking Scotland.




RIP England scrum

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




15 is the score that won the boks both their cups.

Pail Ale
Jul 3, 2007

Bucket Beer


Pillbug

Vaders Jester posted:

RIP England scrum

No

Looke
Aug 2, 2013



G A R C E S

oh no computer
May 27, 2003



Oh England can scrum then

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Sweet Chariot sounds terrible.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

But Schefter said they Love Herbert?!


God they needed that

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'





Scrums are strange things

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

Welcome to fucking Scotland.




Where has that scrum been all game? Oh, it's because Mako is off.

Pail Ale
Jul 3, 2007

Bucket Beer


Pillbug

Has there ever been a wc final without any tries scored?

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Pail Ale posted:

Has there ever been a wc final without any tries scored?

1995 and 2007, both bok finals.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

But Schefter said they Love Herbert?!


And suddenly England have some momentum

Looke
Aug 2, 2013



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Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003

lEt'S mOsEy





drat.

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