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Mokinokaro posted:Guess they're retconning that to be reversible. I always thought it was?
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In the Janets episode, I think Janet has a line about marbelizing her and then changing her back when they're in a safe place.![]() curiousCat fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Mokinokaro posted:Guess they're retconning that to be reversible. That was already established
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Michael could still be Vicky in a suit playing the long con
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Michael went undercover as Vicki and was then sent back to the medium place in a Michael suit so he’s still actually Michael.
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Hello, I am here to take my lumps for believing Michael got swapped in the train and specifically writing off the possibility that it was Janet instead. Though, in my own defense, I only believed that because the show quite firmly established that Bad Janets can't pretend to be Good Janets without melting and I took that as an unbreakable rule even though they've also been establishing that constant reboots cause Janets and Janet-adjacent Derek to expand well beyond their original programming. Stupid annoying show, being cleverer than me again.
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Grillfiend posted:Michael could still be Vicky in a suit playing the long con No he couldn't! The show's gonna end and people are still going to be saying this aren't they
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They're not pulling a double-bluff here. They dealt with virtually every possible theory in this episode, in part because they were intentionally goading those on. Layering on another level of twists would be both pointless and exhausting.
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ApplesandOranges posted:So if Michael is still really Michael, then what's with Eleanor's very valid suspicion that he still wanted them to have a slumber party instead of working?
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Marbling was never said to be irreversible; the "self-destruct" mode as it was introduced in season 2 was turning Janet into a marble, then either shooting her into space or eating her. Presumably because a marblized Janet left alone could just be restored.
Argue fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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I'm just excited to see blue goo fishtank Glenn in a few more episodes. BLORP "thanks, Glenn, that's a great point"
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boo_radley posted:I'm just excited to see blue goo fishtank Glenn in a few more episodes. BLOOOOOORRP "Shut up, Glenn!"
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Megan Amram is the guest on Mike Schur's podcast, the PosCast. They talk about Megan's baseball knowledge (nonexistent), and then she tries to come up with Houdini puns. Somehow this takes an hour and a half.
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Pinwiz11 posted:JANET
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CapnAndy posted:Hello, I am here to take my lumps for believing Michael got swapped in the train and specifically writing off the possibility that it was Janet instead. I think it's interesting that even after forty million (I think they said it was?) reboots, Bad Janet is still basically just a Bad Janet, only with the ability to imitate a Good Janet added.
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I have not yet caught up on the episode but I STAN my boi Jason Mendoza and I am happy everyone has witnessed his worth. Bortles! *Molotov*
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Grillfiend posted:Michael could still be Vicky in a suit playing the long con
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Squidster posted:My god, Michael's going to have to pretend to be Vicky wearing the Michael suit. I can't wait. OH gently caress YES
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howe_sam posted:BAD JANET OUT OF NOWHERE CALLED IT!!! EVERYONE SAID I WAS MAD!!
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I thought Jason's smile when he hugged Janet was suspicious. It wasn't right. But I knew Jason couldn't be faked because he solved the word search in the best way possible!
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I thought marbling was permadeath but apparently it’s reversible?
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Dr Christmas posted:I thought marbling was permadeath but apparently it’s reversible? Its always been, as been established by like five posts in the last page.
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One thing that I got reminded of after it was said that the demon regeneration process took months was that there's really no believable way that the humans could keep the experiment running for the amount of time it'd take for those three yahoos to get better. It'd get exhausting keeping up the charade for months and months, if not years or decades.
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Well they have exactly one year regardless so
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I actually said "not a girl" out-loud to myself and still didn't pick up that it was Bad Janet. I'm slow. ![]()
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nooneofconsequence posted:I actually said "not a girl" out-loud to myself and still didn't pick up that it was Bad Janet. I'm slow.
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So, was Glen intentionally lying about Vicki in the Michael suit, or did he say it because he actually believed that was true?
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Glenn is not really the kind of demon with the wits to do that. That would be hella out of character.
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I just want the opening of the next episode to be Shawn suddenly hearing a loud scuffle outside his door. Vicky gets thrown through it then Jason bursts in riding the three headed fire-breathing bear yelling "BORTLES!".
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So I'm still trying to understand the Michael side of the timeline. Shaun tells him about the Michael suit, and he decides to... not tell the others, for reasons including that none of them will know if the experiment would fail anyway. Then he fakes his freakout so Eleanor will step up to be in charge. Then he... lies about both those things. I guess I'm still not getting why Shaun would even tell Michael about the suit in the first place.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I guess I'm still not getting why Shaun would even tell Michael about the suit in the first place. Uhh, because he's a demon, and that's what demons do?
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ApplesandOranges posted:So I'm still trying to understand the Michael side of the timeline. Shaun tells him about the Michael suit, and he decides to... not tell the others, for reasons including that none of them will know if the experiment would fail anyway. Then he fakes his freakout so Eleanor will step up to be in charge. Then he... lies about both those things. The second lie was that the freakout was faked. The Michael Suit reveal was to freak out Michael and render him useless, which worked perfectly - Shawn and Michael just didn't expect Eleanor to step up and take command. That gave Michael a chance to get back on his feet now the pressure was off, and get back in the saddle, although given Eleanor was doing a pretty good job he took the opportunity to save face with her by pretending the freakout was all a test.
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Robot Hobo posted:So, was Glen intentionally lying about Vicki in the Michael suit, or did he say it because he actually believed that was true? He saw the suit being made, and saw them celebrating after the switcharoo and legitimately assumed thats what happened.
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I think Glenn legitimately believed, but Shaun wouldn't care if he told anyone because it would cause the humans to doubt Michael. I don't think it's impossible he knew what Glenn was doing. And Bad Janet didn't stop him because she knew it was fine. That's why she blew him up.
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BioEnchanted posted:I loved the closing lines: It was such a great ending and I think it setting up the endgame for the show. Although knowing this show it will be resolved by the end of next episode. But it seems like we now have Michael and Jason trying to save Janet from the Bad Place, while Eleanor and friends will have to save the experiment by themselves. And that's way enough story for the last several episodes. My guess for the finale: Everyone is finally in the Good Place, they win, everything is fixed, and the last scene is Eleanor and Chidi getting married as soulmates in the Good Place. With Michael officiating.... as his true giant monster squid self. Just spoiler tags in case I'm right. :-)
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Wouldn't the best course of action be to telephone the Judge at this point?
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MikeJF posted:Wouldn't the best course of action be to telephone the Judge at this point? But then all of their progress would be reset.
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MikeJF posted:Wouldn't the best course of action be to telephone the Judge at this point? No because they don't WANT to restart the experiment. They feel like they have a handle on things, and in particular having Chidi as a subject is an enormous advantage compared to anyone else they could get. Even if the bad place gets punished in some way, starting over with four fresh people isn't going to give them any better of a chance at succeeding.
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howe_sam posted:Megan Amram is the guest on Mike Schur's podcast, the PosCast. They talk about Megan's baseball knowledge (nonexistent), and then she tries to come up with Houdini puns. Somehow this takes an hour and a half. I love that stupid podcast so much. I’m going to Joe’s book signing hosted by Nick Offerman this Monday and I’m so pumped. Also, this show continues to find ways to subvert your expectations in the best ways. I’ll miss it when it’s gone but I’m glad they aren’t going to drag it out either.
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Wait, so Michael couldn't unfold because all the residents would of seen it and put the experiment in danger, but how exactly? They already know that they're dead and in the good place, what does it matter if they see a giant fire squid?
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