"'The Good Place Season 4 - "It's okay to be sad"

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Taear: Nov 26, 2004; Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Agronox posted:

I agree but this most recent episode was pretty good and def best of the season.

Yea this episode was the best of series 4 by far but it's a low bar to clear.
It's not that it's bad or anything. It's just a bit flat.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 08:23

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# ? Feb 9, 2025 18:24

tarlibone: Aug 1, 2014; Am I a... bad person?
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team overhead smash posted:

My theory for what happens which i will spoiler because it's so good you'll realise I'm right straight away:

Simone didn't get enough points to go to the good place because she didn't buy into it at all so her motivation was tainted.

John didn't get enough points to go to the good place because the increase from not being a gossip was balanced out by leaving Brent to die in a hole.

Brent will initially not get enough good points to get into the good place because he's a racist jerk who hasn't changed, but the soul squad will argue he was literally a few seconds away from a fundamental change and they'll get to allow the experiment to continue for a minute or two more. It turns out he's about to say "I'm sorry you're so jealous of my success" or something equally ignorant and douchey and still doesn't get enough points to get into the good place.

Following those reveals will chart the course of the next episode with the tension ramping up and the John reveal being the "oh-no, everything's gone wrong, what can we do" moment and the squad will think they're forked even as it moves on to Chidi and it's revealed that he's got enough to go to the good place as he's basically the perfect human being seeing as he constantly risked eternal happiness by helping Jason in secret and overcame his old flaw of not doing anything by punching a racist idiot and then rescuing a racist idiot from a whole (even though he knew it'd cost him his relationship); because 3 losses and 1 win makes it 3:1 to the demons so soul squad's lost, right. Except really that makes no sense as Jen will point out in the last minute twist. Although the rest of the individual humans didn't succeed, that Chidi did revealed that humans do have the potential to improve and become better people. No-one's ever said they have to succeed with all of the humans or even a majority. The afterlife system is overturned, the Bad Place is abolished and Chidi has saved humanity from eternal torment; retroactively making the mind wipe decision the correct one and possibly giving him more good place points than anyone in history.

Everyone lives happily ever after.

I think you mean "hole".

Other than that egregiously homophonic mistake, though, this would be entertaining to watch.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 13:24

RBA Starblade: Apr 27, 2008; Going Home.

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In an ironic twist of fate there actually is a Best Place and Brent actually does get to go there. Brent will have grown just enough to magnanimously convince the Best Place to let everyone else stay in the Medium Place.

The Bad Place will be just as confused about it as everyone else.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 14:57

carticket: Jun 28, 2005; white and gold.

But where does Brett go?

# ? Nov 11, 2019 17:02

RBA Starblade: Apr 27, 2008; Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Mr. Powers posted:

But where does Brett go?

Hell most likely

# ? Nov 11, 2019 17:08

tsob: Sep 26, 2006; Chalalala~

RBA Starblade posted:

Hell most likely

Only the best Bad Place for Brent though; one with immaculately manicured golf courses. That he can never play on. And perfect secretaries. That aren't his. The penis flatteners will be spotlessly clean though, and the butthole spiders will all wear monocles and have degrees from Harvard.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 17:34

curiousCat: Sep 23, 2012; Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?

Are you kidding?
Brent is the secretary in his hell. And the caddy.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 18:07

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; I've made a huge mistake.

Regy Rusty posted:

ELEANOR GOT TO DO THE THING

1glitch0 posted:

Of course the experiment was going to end with the double laugh. I never saw it coming, tho.

that was excellent yes

Good episode, I feel like this season's back on track (by going off the rails).

# ? Nov 11, 2019 18:22

Thranguy: Apr 21, 2010; Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

All the victims in the Bad Place are really Janet babies; the real bad people got memory erased and are the demons, torturing each other.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 18:51

Robot Hobo: May 17, 2002; robothobo.com

God makes an appearance in the final episode, turns out he's almost exactly like Brent. In fact, he seems identical in every way aside from a different colored polo shirt. Turns out all of human history was God's attempt to create the perfect golfing partner in His own image, and now that Brent exists, humanity can come to an end. Brent goes with God to the Best Place, which is a beautiful golf course of infinite size, to spend eternity golfing and talking about how hot stewardess uniforms used to be.

Everyone else disappears.

# ? Nov 11, 2019 19:35

Somewhat Heroic: Oct 11, 2007; (Insert Mad Max related text)

curiousCat posted:

Are you kidding?
Brent is the secretary in his hell. And the caddy.

And his boss is a woman of color

# ? Nov 11, 2019 19:38

RBA Starblade: Apr 27, 2008; Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Robot Hobo posted:

God makes an appearance in the final episode, turns out he's almost exactly like Brent. In fact, he seems identical in every way aside from a different colored polo shirt. Turns out all of human history was God's attempt to create the perfect golfing partner in His own image, and now that Brent exists, humanity can come to an end. Brent goes with God to the Best Place, which is a beautiful golf course of infinite size, to spend eternity golfing and talking about how hot stewardess uniforms used to be.

Everyone else disappears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdvbslUnruU&t=72s

# ? Nov 11, 2019 20:13

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

GreyjoyBastard posted:

that was excellent yes

Good episode, I feel like this season's back on track (by going off the rails).

Bell was clearly having a blast being evil. She almost never gets to play the villain, unless you count Gossip Girl. Even her previous character for Schur was an bait-and-switch where you expected her to be awful, but she was basically just the rich version of Leslie.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 00:29

NowonSA: Jul 19, 2013; I am the sexiest poster in the world!

team overhead smash posted:

My theory for what happens which i will spoiler because it's so good you'll realise I'm right straight away:

Simone didn't get enough points to go to the good place because she didn't buy into it at all so her motivation was tainted.

John didn't get enough points to go to the good place because the increase from not being a gossip was balanced out by leaving Brent to die in a hole.

Brent will initially not get enough good points to get into the good place because he's a racist jerk who hasn't changed, but the soul squad will argue he was literally a few seconds away from a fundamental change and they'll get to allow the experiment to continue for a minute or two more. It turns out he's about to say "I'm sorry you're so jealous of my success" or something equally ignorant and douchey and still doesn't get enough points to get into the good place.

Following those reveals will chart the course of the next episode with the tension ramping up and the John reveal being the "oh-no, everything's gone wrong, what can we do" moment and the squad will think they're forked even as it moves on to Chidi and it's revealed that he's got enough to go to the good place as he's basically the perfect human being seeing as he constantly risked eternal happiness by helping Jason in secret and overcame his old flaw of not doing anything by punching a racist idiot and then rescuing a racist idiot from a whole (even though he knew it'd cost him his relationship); because 3 losses and 1 win makes it 3:1 to the demons so soul squad's lost, right. Except really that makes no sense as Jen will point out in the last minute twist. Although the rest of the individual humans didn't succeed, that Chidi did revealed that humans do have the potential to improve and become better people. No-one's ever said they have to succeed with all of the humans or even a majority. The afterlife system is overturned, the Bad Place is abolished and Chidi has saved humanity from eternal torment; retroactively making the mind wipe decision the correct one and possibly giving him more good place points than anyone in history.

Everyone lives happily ever after.

If there was only one episode left in the season I'd be all about this theory, but plenty more to go still. Maybe this happens and then it's about fixing the Good Place, which it turns out has its own wild problems to be resolved? I think more likely it's just wild twists and turns from now right through to the end.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 03:59

team overhead smash: Sep 2, 2006; Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

NowonSA posted:

If there was only one episode left in the season I'd be all about this theory, but plenty more to go still. Maybe this happens and then it's about fixing the Good Place, which it turns out has its own wild problems to be resolved? I think more likely it's just wild twists and turns from now right through to the end.

From the description to the final episode that I read I'm imagining everything major plotwise and the new status quo of the Good/Bad Places is going to play out next episode. The final episode will then be a Park and Recs style goodbye to all the characters that shows or indicates how they'll spend the rest of their afterlives (Which a quick wiki shows is what also seemed to happen for The Office US finale - Schur's other notable show).

# ? Nov 12, 2019 22:22

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

team overhead smash posted:

From the description to the final episode that I read I'm imagining everything major plotwise and the new status quo of the Good/Bad Places is going to play out next episode. The final episode will then be a Park and Recs style goodbye to all the characters that shows or indicates how they'll spend the rest of their afterlives (Which a quick wiki shows is what also seemed to happen for The Office US finale - Schur's other notable show).

There's like another 6 episodes

# ? Nov 12, 2019 22:42

Regy Rusty: Apr 26, 2010

Yeah we're only halfway through the season

# ? Nov 12, 2019 23:04

Jezza of OZPOS: Mar 21, 2018; GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

Gaz-L posted:

Bell was clearly having a blast being evil. She almost never gets to play the villain, unless you count Gossip Girl. Even her previous character for Schur was an bait-and-switch where you expected her to be awful, but she was basically just the rich version of Leslie.

Did you ever see party down? That was the first role I remember seeing her in and she nails her character you�re meant to dislike. She�s not evil but she�s 100% the villain for her run. drat good show

# ? Nov 13, 2019 08:37

team overhead smash: Sep 2, 2006; Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Regy Rusty posted:

Yeah we're only halfway through the season

Well fork

# ? Nov 13, 2019 09:47

pile of brown: Dec 31, 2004

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Did you ever see party down? That was the first role I remember seeing her in and she nails her character you’re meant to dislike. She’s not evil but she’s 100% the villain for her run. drat good show

She's only the villain because she's obviously better than all the protagonists.

# ? Nov 13, 2019 10:25

Jezza of OZPOS: Mar 21, 2018; GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

pile of brown posted:

She's only the villain because she's obviously better than all the protagonists.

Not at being an actor (or screenwriter), clearly the only worthwhile jobs in existence

# ? Nov 13, 2019 10:57

Jezza of OZPOS: Mar 21, 2018; GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

In fact thinking back I posit that the fact that she has no interest in show business beyond catering their parties immaculately makes her the greatest villain on the show including JK Simmons recurring role

# ? Nov 13, 2019 10:58

pile of brown: Dec 31, 2004

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Not at being an actor (or screenwriter), clearly the only worthwhile jobs in existence

At the jobs that every character is doing

# ? Nov 13, 2019 11:25

Propaniac: Nov 28, 2000; SUSHI ROULETTO!; College Slice

What scene does the thread title come from?

# ? Nov 13, 2019 23:33

emgeejay: Dec 8, 2007

Propaniac posted:

What scene does the thread title come from?

I think it�s from the ending of ED WOOD

# ? Nov 14, 2019 06:48

Ishamael: Feb 18, 2004; You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

Propaniac posted:

What scene does the thread title come from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imiGUPwY1JU&t=113s

# ? Nov 14, 2019 19:10

double nine: Aug 8, 2013

Ishamael posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imiGUPwY1JU&t=113s

that is some serious eyebrow performance.

# ? Nov 14, 2019 20:42

Ignis: Mar 31, 2011; I take it you don't want my autograph, then.

# ? Nov 15, 2019 01:12

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

I just had a terrible thought.

Fred Armisen is a guest star on tonight�s episode of Superstore, because of course he is; Fred Armisen is sitcom cancer, every series I�ve watched in the past decade, he eventually shows up. His life�s mission is to appear on every show except the one with a band which he ostensibly leads.

He�s going to end up being God or some poo poo on The Good Place, isn�t he.

# ? Nov 15, 2019 01:35

Regy Rusty: Apr 26, 2010

What's up

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:00

Maxwell Lord: Dec 12, 2008; I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.; Grimey Drawer

Yes, and here�s a bottle of tequila.

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:01

Regy Rusty: Apr 26, 2010

Oh god it's the useless gang

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:03

BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

"...and they don't sell bras at Home Depot what the hell are you wearing?"

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:05

Regy Rusty: Apr 26, 2010

Okay I think that's workable

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:06

BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

Ahahaha The Price is Right fail music

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:06

Xelkelvos: Dec 19, 2012

drat it Brent. You're just the worst.

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:07

Arist: Feb 13, 2012; _{who, me?}

I really hope after that cliffhanger it just turns out Brent's final act of contrition just didn't count properly and he didn't actually get worse

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:07

Maxwell Lord: Dec 12, 2008; I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.; Grimey Drawer

Honestly if anyone got even a little better that proves their point right?

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:08

howe_sam: Mar 7, 2013; Creepy little garbage eaters

They Weekend at Bernie's Chidi.

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:09

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# ? Feb 9, 2025 18:24

Maxwell Lord: Dec 12, 2008; I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.; Grimey Drawer

Wrestling, illegal drugs, and Jason Statham

# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:09

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