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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Honestly not that great a stage as it could have bin although we did get some GC changes.

Imo would have been better in a route like last year's where the massif central was hit up a few days before they eased into the Pyrenees. as it is it's before three brutal Alpine stages and everyone was probably fine to just let Jumbo work their domestiques and drop Bernal.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


three days....

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



https://twitter.com/Vaughters/statu...8249066496?s=19

This loving rules.

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012



https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily...9799366656?s=19

Advanced stats are starting to come in

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me

welcome to the jungel

https://twitter.com/jaga1912/status...2497871872?s=21

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

He is I, and I am him



Is classier code for white?

Skarsnik posted:

I assume you put it in your bidon and drink it like a vampire

How many aspiring Cat 5 racers will drink it, I wonder?

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



As far as I'm aware those synthetic haemoglobin substitutes don't increase oxygenation and massively increase the risk of heart attacks.

Never seen them used clinically.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


Loving Africa Chaps posted:

As far as I'm aware those synthetic haemoglobin substitutes don't increase oxygenation and massively increase the risk of heart attacks.

Never seen them used clinically.

*list of deceased young sportsmen in 2019*

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

I want Froome and Geraint Thomas positives from retesting old samples to happen during the tour

uguu
Mar 9, 2014



Is this the place to post about His Woutness?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.



Grimey Drawer

Yes.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

He is I, and I am him



Loving Africa Chaps posted:

As far as I'm aware those synthetic haemoglobin substitutes don't increase oxygenation

Someone’s actually testing these? Who’s calling this stuff synthetic hemoglobin in the first place?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.



Grimey Drawer

It's used for calibrating readings you use for serious business blood studies.

So they've obviously been using it to hide their true blood levels for the biopassport so the tests won't pick up the pint of chilean mountain child they were infused with.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



kimbo305 posted:

Someone’s actually testing these? Who’s calling this stuff synthetic hemoglobin in the first place?

Yeah, there's tons of issues with donated blood so there's been huge amounts of research into synthetic alternatives. Not so much anymore as they just seem to not work and also kill people

colonel tom
Mar 1, 2012
fuck science

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Yeah, there's tons of issues with donated blood so there's been huge amounts of research into synthetic alternatives. Not so much anymore as they just seem to not work and also kill people

That's never stopped cyclists before.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



colonel tom posted:

That's never stopped cyclists before.

Yep and a bunch of athletes have tested positive for a drug who's trials were stopped early in mice because of the amount of tumours it was causing.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



Also lmao at this act of cosmic justice

https://twitter.com/itvcycling/stat...9099485186?s=19

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014



they let the patient drive the ambulance?

paperwind
Sep 5, 2006
Cunning Linguist

I think Jumbo needs to find another tactic besides murder train if they want to put Pogacar to the sword. Yes, Pogacar gets isolated as a result, but it doesn't matter a loving bit when he can pretty easily come over Roglic at the end and take time or bonus seconds. Roglic is clearly afraid to attack Pogacar too early, because I guarantee Pogacar would counter-attack a completely isolated Roglic. Come on Jumbo, send Sepp up the road and give him a flyer to either win the stage or serve as a bridge for Roglic to safely attack Pogacar.

If Pogacar can just chip a few more seconds the next couple stages then he doesn't even need to launch a big attack. Hell, status quo is probably fine. I really think he can grab the current gap in seconds from Roglic in the TT.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man


Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Yep and a bunch of athletes have tested positive for a drug who's trials were stopped early in mice because of the amount of tumours it was causing.

Kayle Leogrande was taking that drug to win...local criteriums.

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014




https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16...206135293607936

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man


The latest bike sponsor rumors:

Mitchelton gets Bianchi
Sunweb gets Scott
AG2R gets BMC
Movistar continues with Canyon (seems that the Annemiek signing was a big deal...)
Jumbo gets Cervelo (but we knew that)

Still looking for title sponsors:
CCC
NTT

There were rumors of Alpecin-Fenix being interested in CCC’s WT license, but those were squashed.

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009


paperwind posted:

I think Jumbo needs to find another tactic besides murder train if they want to put Pogacar to the sword. Yes, Pogacar gets isolated as a result, but it doesn't matter a loving bit when he can pretty easily come over Roglic at the end and take time or bonus seconds. Roglic is clearly afraid to attack Pogacar too early, because I guarantee Pogacar would counter-attack a completely isolated Roglic. Come on Jumbo, send Sepp up the road and give him a flyer to either win the stage or serve as a bridge for Roglic to safely attack Pogacar.

If Pogacar can just chip a few more seconds the next couple stages then he doesn't even need to launch a big attack. Hell, status quo is probably fine. I really think he can grab the current gap in seconds from Roglic in the TT.

Do they need to though? Roglic has 40 seconds on Pogacar still. He can just Cadel Evans it up behind Pogacar the whole time and all he needs to do is stay within 30-40 seconds in the time trial, depending on how much more bonus time Pogacar racks up.

E: I am dumb and did not read your whole post. Apparently Pogacar is a TT specialist or something? To me it's at least up in the air as riders in yellow can sometimes do exceptional things, especially in time trials. See Alaphilippe last year.

Griefor fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Sep 14, 2020

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014



Pogacar isn't a specialist, but he has a very good TT. But stage 20 is a mountain TT, which is a bit different anyways. And pogacar is the better climber. He notably beat Roglic in the Slovenian TT champs recently , on a course that was mostly uphill.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004


Fun Shoe

I just remembered that Steven Kruijswijk was meant to be in this Jumbo team. Imagine what this would look like if he was still in there.

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009


You can make pretty good money betting on Pogacar as GC winner right now. Roglic gives x1.25 times your money back where Pogacar gives x3.75.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


peanut- posted:

I just remembered that Steven Kruijswijk was meant to be in this Jumbo team. Imagine what this would look like if he was still in there.

It would be absurd

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man


serious gaylord posted:

It would be absurd

That’s a broad assumption.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.



Grimey Drawer

Who would he have replaced?

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man


goatface posted:

Who would he have replaced?

Pretty widely known that Jansen took his place.

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014



it's absurd enough with what we got. adding in another gt podiumer to the mix...

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16...6107052032?s=19

Everyone's going nuts.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


HappyCamperGL posted:

it's absurd enough with what we got. adding in another gt podiumer to the mix...

Dumoulin does his turn and swings off for Kruijswijk to just hammer it for another km uphill. 10 people left in the GC group after Van Aert does his bit and 4 of them are Jumbo riders.

Also Ganna has done a ridiculous 10km time trial at Tirreno. Broke the record for the course. 10.42 for 10km.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.



Grimey Drawer

A casual 4% improvement.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



serious gaylord posted:

Dumoulin does his turn and swings off for Kruijswijk to just hammer it for another km uphill. 10 people left in the GC group after Van Aert does his bit and 4 of them are Jumbo riders.

Also Ganna has done a ridiculous 10km time trial at Tirreno. Broke the record for the course. 10.42 for 10km.

Cycling is crazy right now 4 riders broke cancellara's record for the course.

Dangerllama
Nov 16, 2007



I’m struggling to differentiate the “lol cycling is full of dopers” joke posts from the “no Roglic and Pogacar are actually juiced to the gills” posts.

Dangerllama fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Sep 14, 2020

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Cycling is crazy right now 4 riders broke cancellara's record for the course.

Giro going to be v funny.

Vando
Oct 26, 2007

I want to be one of
those madmen


There is the possibility that everyone has just had much more rest and recovery than they would normally get in a season cycle so have come in fresher and smashed it, these are typical late season events that are suddenly early season following a longer period of recovery than normal.

Then again that's exactly what a doper would claim is the reason so who the gently caress even knows at this point.

Stutes
Oct 13, 2005

Tonight's the Night


Maybe there was a just an unusually strong tailwind

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peanut-
Feb 17, 2004


Fun Shoe

Moving past the "everyone is up to their eyeballs in the finest Austrian product" explanation, I am genuinely fascinated by what is causing this.

Just weather? It's got to be a lot warmer in Italy in September than March.

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