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Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Hwurmp posted:

Hell yeah, I'll take a new Tyrian/Raptor

No, no, this isn't like those old games. This is modern, souls-like.

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Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009



The only game genres that would be more ridiculous to call 'souls-like' would be the ones without combat. Just like, why? Because you can dodge?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






That's actually tagged Souls-Like on Steam. Is that just gamers being dumb or is there something I'm not seeing?

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Steam tags are player-assigned unless the publisher feels like applying a few specific ones on the store page themselves. There's basically nothing that guarantees that a game will actually remotely fit all the tags it has. Wouldn't surprise me if some genius thought "this is hard, therefore soulslike."

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


ultrafilter posted:

That's actually tagged Souls-Like on Steam. Is that just gamers being dumb or is there something I'm not seeing?

It was also in the official game description. It's probably just devs using the term to sell a few more copies because there's bound to be some people who buy everything that's souls-like or rogue-like, but gently caress is it annoying.

Donnerberg
Dec 15, 2008



Hell Gem

ultrafilter posted:

That's actually tagged Souls-Like on Steam. Is that just gamers being dumb or is there something I'm not seeing?

Souls-like means there's a health bar.
Roguelike means there's a dungeon.
Roguelite means there's a town.
Metroidvania means there's doors.

I'm currently waiting on the souls-like, metroidvania, action-adventure, hack and slash Foregone. It comes out on Monday. Don't know much about it other than it's done a round on consoles, and it looks gorgeous. Slick colours and animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_SDyAkUzE

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000760/Foregone/

Release update: Goon impressions aren't too hot on this one. Sounds like it doesn't control as tight it should.

Donnerberg fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Mar 2, 2021

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.


Fat Samurai posted:

I have philosophical problems with a cyberpunk citybuilder. On the one hand, it's a god game, on the other hand, government is supposed to be powerless in this setting. Also, city builders usually require to give your citizens a modicum of comfort, while cyberpunk usually treats the downtrodden masses like poo poo. I'm curious about how the game handles those contradictions.

I haven't played the game so I don't know if it'd eve fit in the way actions are designed & presented, but reading this made me Ideas Guy it and think it'd be a neat piece of world building if they had some kind of reactive ticker that showed a chain of activity undertaken by the mega-corporations that lead to whatever action you choose going into effect. Like, you're more like The Invisible Hand moving the market, & not the normal all powerful city planner.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Donnerberg posted:

Roguelite means there's a town.
Angband: the original roguelite.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

I LIKE TO MAKE VAGUE THREATS TO PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE I AM TOUGH GUY. P.S. ASK ME ABOUT THE TIME A GIRL BEAT ME UP IN GRADE SCHOOL. HER NAME WAS SUZIE SHE DREW A BIG WEINER ON MY FOREHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hwurmp posted:

Hell yeah, I'll take a new Tyrian/Raptor

correction: I'll take a new Tyrian/Raptor unless you don't get any cool guns and a single collision is always lethal

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY



Donnerberg posted:



I'm currently waiting on the souls-like, metroidvania, action-adventure, hack and slash Foregone. It comes out on Monday. Don't know much about it other than it's done a round on consoles, and it looks gorgeous. Slick colours and animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_SDyAkUzE

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000760/Foregone/

whoa, sick deadcells-like you got there

Alamoduh
Sep 12, 2011


Tagichatn posted:

The only game genres that would be more ridiculous to call 'souls-like' would be the ones without combat. Just like, why? Because you can dodge?

“Open world Soulslike roguelite survival crafting deckbuilder” hits 9/10 of all new releases.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

Glory to Italia!

Ayy!! This text is-a the color of marinara! Ohhhh!! Dat's amore!!


Alamoduh posted:

“Open world Soulslike roguelite survival crafting deckbuilder” hits 9/10 of all new releases.

Agreed, but only if there's a deck involved.

maniacripper
May 3, 2009
STANNIS BURNS SHIREEN
HIZDAR IS THE HARPY
JON GETS STABBED TO DEATH
DANY FLIES OFF ON DROGON


Futaba Anzu posted:

whoa, sick deadcells-like you got there

I literally thought it was a mod of dead cells, the enemies and animations are just.... spot on. Hopefully the controls are dolphins butthole tight because if you make a game that looks like dead cells it needs to control like dead cells.

Microcline
Jul 27, 2012

For every
volunteer
an opportunity.



I haven't looked at it, but "cyberpunk citybuilder" seems like a perfectly workable idea. Cyberpunk has always been about the contrast between a highly surveilled, tightly controlled society and the human vermin that live in the crawlspaces of this perfect immortal machine. A citybuilder would just be flipping the perspective so now you're the one deciding to sacrifice the Sector 7 plate to kill off some pests getting in the way of the city you're building.

If anything, a cyberpunk citybuilder seems more appropriate than a modern or pre-modern one.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

FEDS FEAR ME




maniacripper posted:

dolphins butthole tight

eccolike

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.


Futaba Anzu posted:

whoa, sick deadcells-like you got there

A person having a stroke on youtube posted:

Stay away from this game is not good at all Look at the metacritics and you will see the one who got the reviews they managed to accumulate a score of three which means you have to put a lot and not to lose your hair more 0 times blocked the reviews I can no longer give a review what is there see and ready It's not a good game is a game like Mario game where you go lose and breastfeeding from the beginning of the year go the summer of the loss and take you from the beginning So something you can't because not everyone has the same gameplay the same agility the idiot who started this game is just as idiotic as the three-point game😥🤦🤥😞😱🎮
stay away from this mess if you don't want to break your nerves today

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






It's probably very hard to play a game like that while you're having a stroke.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


https://twitter.com/DominicTarason/status/1366083699918458884

itry
Aug 23, 2019







I played the demo a while ago. It did give me some mixed Dark Messiah / Thief vibes. Managed to sequence break and the game didn't softlock, so that's a plus.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014




I snapped this up because I remember playing a demo back in the day. It's very Rhythm Heaven, kind of feels like they expanded a single game from that into a full game. Really really fun!

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT



College Slice

Cardiovorax posted:

Glad it's not just me. The idea of a cyberpunk city builder just strikes me as kind of... incongruous? Undirected, ungoverned and constantly growing sprawl and poverty are some of the defining qualities of the genre, after all.

To remain true to the theme, all choices should be a/b choices where (a) is "do whatever the corporation wants" and (b) is "oh gently caress, I'm a robot".

Sweeper
Nov 28, 2007
The Joe Buck of Posting


Dinosaur Gum

InfiniteZero posted:

To remain true to the theme, all choices should be a/b choices where (a) is "do whatever the corporation wants" and (b) is "oh gently caress, I'm a robot".

I feel like it could be interesting if you, as a mayor, have to fight off corporations destroying your city and protect your people or whatever?

treat
Jul 24, 2008



It's not cyberpunk but there's a demo for this other vertical sci-fi city builder on itch: https://momosundeass.itch.io/complex-sky

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000760/Foregone/

quote:

Foregone is a fast and fluid 2D action-platformer packed with legendary loot and stunning pixel art. Collect an arsenal of powerful weapons and unravel a compelling story of regret and conspiracy as you slice your way through hordes of enemies to save Calagan.

quote:

Features
• Satisfying hybrid of action-platformer and looter• Narrative-driven gameplay
• Collect an arsenal of legendary weapons
• Challenging enemies and intense boss fights
• Branching skill tree with customizable abilities
• Fluid 3D-to-2D pixel art & animation

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


Not a fan of opening my discovery queue and the first thing in there is graphic porn gifs in the description. Steam, don't do that.

Moving on:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1405950/pear_potion/

quote:

a cute little metroidvania with challenging combat and witchcraft 🧙🍐

quote:

A fun game! I particularly like bullet hell/ metroidvanias like this (and like HeroCore), and this one does a really good job. There are a few aspects that could afford tweaking (like having brief invincibility after taking damage, and a bit of difficulty balancing, especially with the sleeping slime boss) but overall its a really cute and enjoyable game.

is 2$

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.



Wow, is that really pixel art? They must have rotoscoped 3d models

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


https://store.steampowered.com/app/1511830/Shadows_Behind_the_Throne_2/

Is goon-made, early access

quote:

An apocalyptic grand strategy game, in which you take the role of the forces of darkness, trying to bring an end to a fantasy world. Complete with complex internal politics by NPC factions and wide ranges of strategies and types of doom to choose between.

quote:

Distracting a nations nobles by an external threat while corrupting it from the inside and finally declaring it your dark empire to the shock and surprise of it's allies is an awesome feeling.

Swilo
Jun 2, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD




thanks this is fun but beware if you kill the final boss it wipes your save ??? you have to start over to explore anything missed

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


Heads up, if you bought Sinking City from Steam you basically bought the pirated version:

https://twitter.com/thesinkingcity/status/1366483130278961159

https://frogwares.com/how-nacon-cracked-and-pirated-the-sinking-city/

quote:

Nacon pirated the “Deluxe” version of the game. This version features content that was developed after the original release of The Sinking City by Frogwares. Nacon didn’t pay for this content or even tried to discuss it with us. Nacon is therefore stealing additional content of our game that is outside the contract we had with them.

And finally Nacon repacked the game after all these changes and uploaded it to Steam, albeit poorly. Their version deleted all the achievements we prepared, thus removing a key feature of the Steam community,

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Great times call for great men




drat, not only did they repackage a cracked release but it has poo poo that was developed after their original contract ended and with the fingerprints of the dude/studio who did the cracking

That guy's career is probably dead and I have to imagine Nacon is getting sued into oblivion as they well should be

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007


all this for a mediocre cthulu game.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

I was thinking they probably got a good amount of free buzz from this debacle increasing their legit sales some modest amount!

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003



Zaphod42 posted:

Wow, is that really pixel art? They must have rotoscoped 3d models
It's definitely 3d models de-rezzed but it's a really cool look

Barudak
May 7, 2007



gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

all this for a mediocre cthulu game.

Thats sadly the best Cthulu's ever gotten.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008





Even after reading a few steam reviews I'm unclear if this is more of a Bloodstained or a Dead Cells. I like both so I'll probably get it either way but anyone have some insight here?

e: ah nvm. Its closer to Bloodstained in structure if anyone else came up with the same question

Good Citizen fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Mar 2, 2021

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001





Yams Fan


Wasn't this the guy who when some Kickstarter about the same thing totally failed, he went "gently caress it, that game sounds awesome, I'll just make it myself instead?" If so, that's really cool, I had no idea he was still working on it.

Tombot
Oct 21, 2008


I looked it up and the original "Shadows behind the throne" was only available on itch.io. The people in the comments seemed to like it: https://bobbytwohands.itch.io/shadows-behind-the-throne.

itry
Aug 23, 2019






priznat posted:

I was thinking they probably got a good amount of free buzz from this debacle increasing their legit sales some modest amount!

Less than it just being available on Steam/GOG/Not-Epic legitimately over half a year ago.

QuantumNinja
Mar 8, 2013

Trust me.
I pretend to be a ninja.


Kinda late to cyberpunk city building chat, but there is a cyberpunk expansion of Rise of Industry, which plays kind of like a city-builder but you are making supply chains and selling goods in a city-builder interface: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1139110/Rise_of_Industry_2130/

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itry
Aug 23, 2019






Can you make cheap polymer garbage that people don't need? If not then it's not real cyberpunk

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