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So there aren't going to be any new mainstream video cards in the next year or so, right? Wondering whether it's worth replacing my failing video card or limping it through until a new round.
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Some Goon posted:Yes, you can put an SSD in a laptop, they use the same form factor. Just be sure to get a 2.5" drive, not an M.2 drive.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 00:39 |
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Manager Hoyden posted:So there aren't going to be any new mainstream video cards in the next year or so, right? Wondering whether it's worth replacing my failing video card or limping it through until a new round. Nvidia's expected to put out new cards ~late Q3 / Q4. The usually start near the top of the stack though, so the wait on mainstream cards might be a while. Stroop There It Is posted:Yeah, I recently installed a cheap SSD (did you know there are Hyundai-branded drives???) and some more RAM into my husband's abandoned 2012 laptop, and it's legit shockingly fast for something that old when starting up or doing light stuff. Anything involving heavier processing not so much, but that's what my other PC is for. Its a different Hyundai.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 00:48 |
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Some Goon posted:Yes, you can put an SSD in a laptop, they use the same form factor. Just be sure to get a 2.5" drive, not an M.2 drive. sounds good! on the RAM front, as long as it's compatible with my laptop model, the mhz and such don't matter, right?
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 01:07 |
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Manager Hoyden posted:So there aren't going to be any new mainstream video cards in the next year or so, right? Wondering whether it's worth replacing my failing video card or limping it through until a new round. Probably not this calendar year, but I'd very much expect new midrange cards within 1 year from now. Mr Interweb posted:on the RAM front, as long as it's compatible with my laptop model, the mhz and such don't matter, right? nah, if this laptop is being relegated to basic internet and office the speed doesn't much matter. the process of installing new ram will reset speeds to the standard safe speed for DDR3, same as a desktop. so if you get something slower than the 800mhz / DDR1600 that's in it you'll still be fine. so if you get ddr-1333 you can set it to 1333 speed manually, or leave it alone because it doesn't much matter.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 01:48 |
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Looking at building a new PC and I'm stuck between the 3700X and the 10700K. I'm leaning towards 10700K as it's only a $150 difference and seems to OC better. My goal is to get the best performance I can out of Arma, IL2, DCS, and I'm sure Microsoft Flight Sim once that drops. Running them on an Ultra Wide 1440P monitor, and may get a 4k sometime in its life. I have a 1080ti and will be upgrading that whenever the 3000 series drops. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($408.89 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ B&H) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($158.48 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ B&H) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.98 @ Walmart) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.84 @ Amazon) Total: $1255.14 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 20:43 EDT-0400 PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ B&H) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($174.99 @ B&H) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ B&H) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.98 @ Walmart) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Corsair) Total: $1127.90 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 20:44 EDT-0400 I'm not tied to anything in these lists. my budget is about $1,500 for everything excluding the GPU. Edit: or the third option, should I just wait for the AMD 4000 Ryzens? Bondematt fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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Stroop There It Is posted:Yeah, I recently installed a cheap SSD (did you know there are Hyundai-branded drives???) and some more RAM into my husband's abandoned 2012 laptop, and it's legit shockingly fast for something that old when starting up or doing light stuff. Anything involving heavier processing not so much, but that's what my other PC is for. I think Hyundai like all the other S Korean conglomerates make money on literally everything. Wouldn't be surprised if there was Hyundai life insurance, Hyundai assault rifles, and Hyundai tanks. Those things could be related.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 02:11 |
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Mu Zeta posted:and Hyundai tanks (though tbf the cars-tanks connection is much closer than cars-hard drives. the abrams used to be made by chrysler.)
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Bondematt posted:My goal is to get the best performance I can out of Arma, IL2, DCS, and I'm sure Microsoft Flight Sim once that drops. Running them on an Ultra Wide 1440P monitor, and may get a 4k sometime in its life. The CPU choice is irrelevant to these concerns. Bondematt posted:Edit: or the third option, should I just wait for the AMD 4000 Ryzens? Same old rule. Upgrade/replace only when your current rig is unable to do what you want to do *right now*.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 02:33 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Okay, so here is a napkin build based on what I've learned so far: The 2 things I would change to save a little would be to go with a B450 board instead of X570, and go with 16 gigs of RAM instead of 32. Otherwise you are pretty much in the sweet spot across the board. You could use that minor savings to go up a little bit on the video card. There just isn't anything significant to be gained by going B550 or X570 over B450. The only differences you might see would only be able to be measured in synthetic benchmarks. Eventually, when the B550 boards are selling for the same amount B450 boards are now, that would be reasonable, but the X570 isn't super competitive for your build otherwise. Edit: Knocked $40 off your build and got you a 2060 Super and slightly better RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b62vrV Mistikman fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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Klyith posted:
my laptop has 2 slots, and at first i thought i'd had to replace both, but apparently one slot is free. so i was gonna just add another 4 gig RAM stick, so does that one have to match? or does it also not matter? edit: this one okay? http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=221924223961&category=170083&pm=1&ds=0&t=1578081589000&ver=0 edit: actually, i have another more general question so i would expect my computer to be struggling when i launch my browser, which automatically jumps the memory management to 90%. but as i also stated, it's very slow even when i'm not loading any programs and just booting up. when i launch windows, without any programs open, the memory being taken up is between 55-60%. i figure that would be enough free memory to at least let me just open folders and such. but it struggles even for that. my new PC, can run premiere, after effects, 40 tabs in opera and still only takes up 60% at the most, and yet everything runs without a hitch. not even so much a stutter. (my record so far is 75% and no hiccups whatsoever) why is that the case? Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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That's where your 100% disk usage is coming into play. It's trying to load Windows and all of its services and all of your startup program and your hard disk can't be read fast enough to get it all into RAM in a timely manner. So whenever you try to open a folder or whatnot it has to go find the contents on your hard disk, but it's busy loading whatever so it can't pull up the folder in a reasonable timeframe.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 03:51 |
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Some Goon posted:That's where your 100% disk usage is coming into play. It's trying to load Windows and all of its services and all of your startup program and your hard disk can't be read fast enough to get it all into RAM in a timely manner. So whenever you try to open a folder or whatnot it has to go find the contents on your hard disk, but it's busy loading whatever so it can't pull up the folder in a reasonable timeframe. gotcha, that makes sense. so is the RAM i linked to okay to get?
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 06:30 |
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Grumpwagon posted:Alright, thanks to both of you! I ordered this today. I got the better case you suggested, and the power supply was out of stock, so I got this EVGA 500 W1 power supply which Johnny guru reviewed and basically said was surprisingly well made for the price. I was hoping for at least a bronze, but at this price, I'll settle for "not burning the house down." We decided not to get the MB upgrade, as we were already pushing it and I don't see upgrades for this machine happening. That said, to Bofast's point, Microcenter supposedly has done the BIOS update on this, and we will be checking when we pick it up. If that's not the case, we'll probably end up with the suggested B450M DS3H. All that, plus a $20 Logitech KB/Mouse bundle, a SA mart Windows key, and a local $40 craigslist monitor has produced, in theory, a <$650 after tax and shipping complete system that will at least modestly well play games and stuff. I didn't think it was possible, so thanks for the thread knowledge and the tweaks. I'll report back once it is working. If the shop does it for you, that's great!
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 09:21 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I think Hyundai like all the other S Korean conglomerates make money on literally everything. Wouldn't be surprised if there was Hyundai life insurance, Hyundai assault rifles, and Hyundai tanks. Those things could be related. They do have companies for shipbuilding, petroleum refining, real estate, a racing team and a bunch of other things. A Hyundai branded drive is probably from what is now known as SK Hynix (formerly Hynix and before that Hyundai Electronics). It amuses me that these South Korean chip makers are also ship makers, and I only found out about it when someone in a hardware thread did a typo and accidentally called Samsung one of the world's largest ship makers (which turned out to also be true).
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 09:38 |
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PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.97 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($57.99 @ Amazon) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($229.99 @ Best Buy) Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($40.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Raidmax Thunder RGB 735 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($68.98 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Amazon) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($40.00) Case Fan: Noctua NF-B9 redux-1600 PWM 37.85 CFM 92 mm Fan ($10.95 @ Amazon) Total: $826.83 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-26 05:59 EDT-0400 Building this 1080p gaming computer for a friend. Besides the new GPU cards dropping soon, are there any issues?
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 11:04 |
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Mr Interweb posted:so is the RAM i linked to okay to get? did you pick that ram because your laptop is one of those models? then yes. Otherwise, your laptop *might* want DDR3L ram which operates at 1.35V, while standard DDR3 does 1.5V. You've never said what make and model your laptop is, so I don't know what it wants. The safe choice would be getting DDR3L like this because it works at either voltage.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 11:19 |
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I'm thinking about an ITX build for playing old games that I can't on my MacBook. I've got a copy of Windows 10 and a 512GB SSD already, as well as a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Anything I'm missing or should really swap out? Looks like I could save a bit going with a MicroATX, but I'm looking for something I can tuck away in my room at my desk. Any real good reason to go one way or the other? Is the onboard GPU good enough for 1080p older games? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($68.98 @ Amazon) Case: Silverstone SG05BB-450-USB3.0 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($49.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Silverstone SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply ($74.99 @ B&H) Total: $432.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-26 10:38 EDT-0400 PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg) Case: Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ Newegg) Total: $331.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-26 10:46 EDT-0400 nitsuga fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Is there any advantage or benefit to PCIe 4.0 outside of future proofing? I see I can get compatibility with AMD, but not Intel, but I don't see too many applications outside of maybe larger servers and storage or date transfer rates (which don't really apply to me) but not sure if there's a potential bottleneck or missed opportunity by skipping it.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 17:40 |
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Are there any cases designed to be slim and long/wide like a pizza box? With a full side video card beside the motherboard. Ideally with no internal PSU. Feeling like it's either hacking up a 1u to 2u rack mount case or go custom starting with a project box enclosure. It needs to be less than 4 inches tall to fit in the location I want to use in my car.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 18:30 |
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taqueso posted:Are there any cases designed to be slim and long/wide like a pizza box? With a full side video card beside the motherboard. Ideally with no internal PSU. Feeling like it's either hacking up a 1u to 2u rack mount case or go custom starting with a project box enclosure. Silverstone makes cases that fit that description.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 18:34 |
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Oh should have mentioned I'd like to support matx so I can have 4 ram slots. But otherwise those are about right
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 18:37 |
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PageMaster posted:Is there any advantage or benefit to PCIe 4.0 outside of future proofing? Nope.
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# ? Jul 26, 2020 18:44 |
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Klyith posted:did you pick that ram because your laptop is one of those models? then yes. oh sorry, it's a gateway NE 522 series.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 03:40 |
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What are the odds that parts pricing and availability are about to get all hosed up because of the potential second stimulus check?
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It's going to be fine. People will use their stimulus on alcohol.
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About to? They're already hosed. It's not going to help things, but...
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 17:25 |
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I'm seeing a lot of power supplies and cases in stock on Newegg and BHPhoto so I thought stock was getting better.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 17:33 |
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I can't find a decent B550 board in stock anywhere also someone should change the thread title, it's not quite accurate anymore. e: or at least it won't be in a few months
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Some Goon posted:About to? They're already hosed. It's not going to help things, but... This is what I gathered. I'm currently trying to build my young kids a PC so that they can do this dumb distance learning thing. 8 was hoping I could wait another month or so but it seems like I should probably get on it sooner rather than later Anything immediately wrong with this? Figure I could drop in a gpu in a couple years when their old enough for AAA games and in the meantime it can handle zoom, Microsoft teams, Lego games and Minecraft well enough. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.88 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($57.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Kingston UV500 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($28.00 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($40.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA W3 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Best Buy) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($6.49 @ Amazon) Total: $401.33 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-27 13:18 EDT-0400 Zosologist fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-500GB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFF3JCN/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=wd+blue+ssd&qid=1595870985&sr=8-4 I'd spend the extra $30 on this SSD. You get 500 gigs and more durability. It should last longer with heavy use. 120gigs is just too small IMO.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 18:32 |
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Mu Zeta posted:https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-500GB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFF3JCN/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=wd+blue+ssd&qid=1595870985&sr=8-4 Seconding this, Windows will take up 100+ gigs by itself. I'd also consider springing for a a PSU with a 5 year warranty. As is it probably doesn't matter, but ones with 3 year warranties are bottom of the barrel units.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 18:56 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I can't find a decent B550 board in stock anywhere Existing B550 boards will need an update then too, I figured I'd let it sit until Zen3 actually launches.
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Re: PSU, spring for one with a 10 year warranty if you can. Speaking as someone who had a 5-year one die after 18 months.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:37 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I can't find a decent B550 board in stock anywhere I’m told it’s not necessarily accurate today for low-volume stuff like ITX boards, anyway.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:41 |
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What are the odds a good 650w power supply will be able to power a RTX 3080?
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 01:36 |
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EMCF posted:What are the odds a good 650w power supply will be able to power a RTX 3080? If the 3080 uses much more than 300 watts I'll be extremely surprised. Even the 3080 Ti with its brand new power connector is gonna be well under 400W, unless it is completely stupid like 2 GPUs on one card with a built in liquid cooler.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 02:06 |
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That's nice to hear. I keep hearing you'll need at least 750 recently in order to handle a 3080, and I have a nice new 650w unit I'm hoping I can get away with given how absurd prices are.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 02:18 |
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Is there a point to building a home theater PC in tyool 2020? Right now we just plug one of our laptops in via HDMI What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? 1) Streaming media sites. 2) Video calls. What's your budget? ~$500 +/-100
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Soylent Pudding posted:Is there a point to building a home theater PC in tyool 2020? Right now we just plug one of our laptops in via HDMI What kind of PC are you looking for? What do you want it to do? Cheapest possible version would be go on Ebay and buy this (or something of the same model, but preowned) HP Slim 290-p0043w Celeron G4900 8th Gen 4GB 500GB HDD Win 10H Desktop PC Then buy some RAM if you want since 4GB of RAM is really not enough to deal with Windows 10. Also, pick up a USB 3.0 external HDD for your media. Load PLEX on your PC, and use it to organize your media. (the reason I recommended that HP PC is that the HP Slim 290-p0043w has an 8th gen Intel CPU, with Intel Quick Sync technology, which is basically cheating for watching media, as it won't really load the CPU much at all)
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 02:35 |