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Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.


Pickles


Zits

Somebody fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jul 25, 2022

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riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
Garfield



Heathcliff



same

Overboard



Monty

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"


College Slice
Docks




Retail




Zip


Rip


Dick


Duck

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Family Circus


Rose is Rose


One Big Happy


Foob


Compu-Toon


Bizarro

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Vargo posted:

Wallace


holy poo poo this storyline is getting so good.

lmao this rules

Wallace is so good, folks.

Julet Esqu
May 6, 2007




goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Wallace is real good.


A+ creativity kid, but a straight fail on sticking to the instructions.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

All you have to do is turn the period into a comma. "..., so the paramedics had to carry him out." becomes a subordinate clause, and everything works. I wouldn't mark off for that.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005



amigolupus posted:

Even if the art for Mark Trail got any better, it still doesn't change the fact that Jams can't write a coherent story even if his life depended on it.
My brief take on James Allen: while I enjoy making fun of his art because he's been really thin-skinned about it and does not seem to be a very nice person, if he was a good writer (or had a good writer working with him), he could absolutely make a successful strip. You really don't have to be that good at drawing to do comic strips. If you are, that's great, and it will put you on a whole other level from most of the strips we post, but it's not necessary, especially to keep a zombie strip like Mark Trail going.

I think he's close to killing Mark Trail as a syndicated daily strip (the Sundays might stick around longer), and that takes some doing, and is almost entirely because of dumb meandering stories that even MT fans won't defend.
This may be worse than yesterday's.

F Minus



Mark Trail



Mary Worth



"OK...Oh! What do you think of this? It's called the Washington Square Arch!"
"I think that it is no Arc de Triomphe! That is in Paris, you know! Paris, France!"

The Phantom



Pooch Cafe



Rex Morgan MD



Did he time travel to the early 60s?

Andertoons



That's cute.

Apartment 3-G

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Johnny Walker posted:


Andertoons



That's cute.


They do make good WiFi

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Vargo posted:

I have a conspiracy theory that James isn't drawing or writing the strip anymore. It's hard to put my finger on it, but I don't feel like this type of bad storytelling is James' type of bad storytelling.

Is it because the story seems to be going at a steady clip so far? The trip to the campsite itself only took a week or two instead of meandering for a couple of months, so this story has been pretty fast-paced in comparison.

Johnny Walker posted:

I think he's close to killing Mark Trail as a syndicated daily strip (the Sundays might stick around longer), and that takes some doing, and is almost entirely because of dumb meandering stories that even MT fans won't defend.

I remember someone posted a link to a newspaper comic editor's blog or something, and how they said they used to like Jams' MT stories but now they've started to give up on it.

Vargo posted:



holy poo poo this storyline is getting so good.

:laffo: Even the seagull is shocked by this turn of events.


Oh, NOW you mention your wife has no work experience as a bartender or event planner. And "cuddle time", really? Arlo and Janis would be shaking their heads at this weak-rear end poo poo.

Johnny Walker posted:



"OK...Oh! What do you think of this? It's called the Washington Square Arch!"
"I think that it is no Arc de Triomphe! That is in Paris, you know! Paris, France!"

So Dawn not noticing how much Hugo sucked when they first started dating was intentional to set up how Dawn will dump Hugo in this current storyline. It'd be almost impressive if it wasn't just an excuse for Dawn to tell herself that she's blameless for cheating on Hugo.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Johnny Walker posted:

Mary Worth



"OK...Oh! What do you think of this? It's called the Washington Square Arch!"
"I think that it is no Arc de Triomphe! That is in Paris, you know! Paris, France!"

I don't remember Hugo being this insufferable the last time we'd seen him. Am I misremembering?

Or is it the author making him out to be a turbojerk to give her a reason to break up with him without remorse?

Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?
I don't care about the morality of cheating anymore I'd cheer if Dawn shoved Hugo into traffic right now with a cheerful thought bubble of "That was easy!"

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

Mikl posted:

Or is it the author making him out to be a turbojerk to give her a reason to break up with him without remorse?

ding ding ding

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

kidcoelacanth posted:

ding ding ding

And if this was actually well written what’s his face would tell her to go screw since she was trying to have her cake and eat it too with the whole trying to pick the best option

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Mikl posted:

I don't remember Hugo being this insufferable the last time we'd seen him. Am I misremembering?

This is exactly how he has always behaved, "[blank] is always better in France," etc.

amigolupus posted:

So Dawn not noticing how much Hugo sucked when they first started dating was intentional to set up how Dawn will dump Hugo in this current storyline. It'd be almost impressive if it wasn't just an excuse for Dawn to tell herself that she's blameless for cheating on Hugo.

Hey, we saw him running around Paris with another woman. Neither is blameless.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005



Mikl posted:

I don't remember Hugo being this insufferable the last time we'd seen him. Am I misremembering?

Or is it the author making him out to be a turbojerk to give her a reason to break up with him without remorse?
He did tend to talk about how much better X was in France. Like when they went to eat, or to the beach, or whatever, he always mentioned how much better it was in France. They've kicked it up a notch here though.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

curtadams posted:

I've got most of the Firebrand Books. I didn't get Dykes and Sundry Carbon-Based Lifeforms to Look Out For and I can't find my copy of Dykes to Watch Out For: The Sequel The rest are scattered around my room as your posts have inspired me to re-read them. I could scan some - what would be a good format?

The cover of this particular Firebrand has a throwaway joke I really liked: Mo is washing her clothes with a biodegradable soap called "Dinge!" Which is another joke that probably isn't funny anymore, because laundry detergents have enzymes now and the biodegradable ones can be quite good. But at the time they were awful. I had a roommate once who insisted on a biodegradable dish soap, which apparently was a growth medium for fungi, because after just a few days a new dish sponge would just reek.

That would be incredible, and I could start off by narrowing my own collection to the two missing volumes you mentioned. Any old format would be fine and I'd be happy to hook you up with platinum or an av change or something in return. I know a few people in my field who've done or wanted to do work on Bechdel and the spottiness of full continuous runs of DtWOF is such a pain in the rear end.

Anyway, Dykes to Watch Out For #28 (1988)

One of my favorite timeless touches in this comic overall is that when they're in their 20s almost everyone in the cast is vegan, but by the time they hit their mid-30s its just Mo.
Do you want to make creamed burdock & turnip loaf at home? Well unfortunately it appears that nobody has ever creamed burdock except to make beauty products which you very much should not eat, and Lois' trusty The Politically Correct Palate is not real. What you could do is whip up a nice kinpira gobo and this actually really tasty looking turnip bread. Serve with dandelion greens and angry thoughts about Reagan.

How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Apr 18, 2020

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

LazyQ posted:

Mämmilä



Now that's what I call math!

Angular Cyrus
May 29, 2007

everything is so much harder than it looks

Vargo posted:

I honestly feel a kinship with Mark Trail now and I love these 40s strips, is there a source where I can get more? Hell, I would buy a giant coffee table book, but it seems like there are no collections anywhere.

newspapers.com

Mark Trail '47 1/6–8




Mark Trail '94 5/12–14


Angular Cyrus fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 20, 2020

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014


I like how there's literally nothing in the art that tells you how old Luann's mother is. The dad is clearly middle aged, and within context you can understand that she'd be too, but remove him from the picture, and it could just as well be a classmate to Luann.

Julet Esqu
May 6, 2007




Johnny Walker posted:

This may be worse than yesterday's.

I think the worst is the combination of the two strips. Taken as one continuous conversation (which it is) rather than two conversation fragments separated by 24 hours, it becomes

:j: I would like to have a job!
:v: Women belong in the kitchen!
:j: But I want a job!
:v: You are not qualified to hold any job!
:j: Oooh, yeah gently caress me daddy!

Like... no, she's not qualified to hold this specific job at the club, but her getting all juiced up by the end of this particular conversation is...uh....

Julet Esqu fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Apr 18, 2020

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





There really is an old jungle saying for everything the Phantom does.

Haifisch
Nov 12, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Vargo posted:

Wallace


holy poo poo this storyline is getting so good.
One of the things that sets Wallace apart is the parents, and this is a perfect example of it. :allears:

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Angular Cyrus posted:

Mark Trail '47 1/6–8



I like Bob. He's a good guy.

Julet Esqu posted:

I think the worst is the combination of the two strips. Taken as one continuous conversation (which it is) rather than two conversation fragments separated by 24 hours, it becomes

:j: I would like to have a job!
:v: Women belong in the kitchen!
:j: But I want a job!
:v: You are not qualified to hold any job!
:j: Oooh, yeah gently caress me daddy!

Like... no, she's not qualified to hold this specific job at the club, but her getting all juiced up by the end of this particular conversation is...uh....

This entire storyline so far has been baffling. Unusually so for Luann, I mean.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

Live, laugh, kupo!

Alhazred posted:

There really is an old jungle saying for everything the Phantom does.

"Old jungle saying" has no timestamp. It counts even if they say it while laughing around the campfire tonight.

Medenmath
Jan 18, 2003
Vintage Valiant (Oct. 30, 1938)

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019


when the governor tells me not to go to the beach during pandemic

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

you broke my grill posted:

when the governor tells me not to go to the beach during pandemic

My mayor just declared going to the beach essential, so it's ok now.

Sailor Cat
Aug 28, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I'll admit it: I laughed

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Sailor Cat posted:

I'll admit it: I laughed

I can't laugh at anything in the presence of that genetic trapeze claptrap, which is pure distilled anti-humor

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Vargo posted:

I have a conspiracy theory that James isn't drawing or writing the strip anymore. It's hard to put my finger on it, but I don't feel like this type of bad storytelling is James' type of bad storytelling.

I remember that Brice Vorderbrug, Jam's collaborator on the late unlamented Edge of Adventure, claimed that he was ghostwriting Mark Trail too. But that was a while ago, so maybe Jam has found a different, but still bad, ghostwriter.

... it's been how many days since I posted my comics? Oh well.

Buni



Rhymes with Orange







Get Fuzzy 4/13 -17/00







Stephen Collins

Just Dan Again
Dec 16, 2012

Adventure!

How Wonderful! posted:

Dykes to Watch Out For #28 (1988)


This debate is super interesting. It feels like the stigma surrounding therapy has lessened somewhat since this strip came out, but I still sometimes worry that people will think less of me (either politically or just personally) if I tell them I see a therapist every week.

It's an interesting perspective to see that vegan cuisine was common enough in her community for Bechdel to feel like making jokes about it as far back as when I was a baby. Growing up in the Midwest, I didn't even know that eating vegan was a thing until high school.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Therapy is medicine, medicine is political.

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Sally Forth









Skippy (November 15-17, 1932)







Peanuts (April 18-21, 1973)









The Breathtaking Splendor of Newspaper Cartoonists (otherwise known as "Funky WInkerbean")









Crankshaft, Man Out Of TIme









9 Back-To-Excruciating-Horniness Lane









Rip Haywire Jr.









Thimble Theater (November 14, 16-18, 1936)









Out Our Way (May 7-9, 1934)





How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Just Dan Again posted:

This debate is super interesting. It feels like the stigma surrounding therapy has lessened somewhat since this strip came out, but I still sometimes worry that people will think less of me (either politically or just personally) if I tell them I see a therapist every week.

It's an interesting perspective to see that vegan cuisine was common enough in her community for Bechdel to feel like making jokes about it as far back as when I was a baby. Growing up in the Midwest, I didn't even know that eating vegan was a thing until high school.

Vegan cooking was much different 30-40 years ago and going back to a lot of the acknowledged classic cookbooks of that period can be a shock, in particular it had much more overlap with "natural foods" types-- think Pat from Achewood. For me the archetypal text of that period is 1974's Moosewood Cookbook which is absolutely a classic but which hues much more towards root veggies and brown goops than something more recent by Rich Landau or Isa Moskowitz or Bryant Terry. It also had very immediate ties with certain currents in second wave feminism-- see Connecticut's Bloodroot. Lots of co-ops, lots of very spotty faux cheeses and meats (from what I've read and heard). I started a vegan diet in 2007 at college and even from then to now it's been wild to see it enter mainstream dining so completely-- when I got lunch downtown during the week pre-quarantine I'd have like four or five relatively fancy and bougie vegan places to choose from without even making a detour (I'm not vegan now but I prefer it when I'm eating out by myself).

Anyway-- I know intellectually that vegetarianism has had organized proponents in North America all the way back to the mid 19th century and probably before (I dunno) but I still feel a little shocked when I see jokes about it or nods to it before a certain arbitrary date.

Here's a little schtick from the 1955 Marilyn Monroe movie The Seven Year Itch that caught me off-guard when I first saw it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv323rDw618

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Medenmath posted:

Vintage Valiant (Oct. 30, 1938)



Did Val ever tell his dad that he was just going off for two years?

EasyEW posted:


The Breathtaking Splendor of Newspaper Cartoonists (otherwise known as "Funky WInkerbean")




Oh those youths of today, unable to stay off their phones when their teacher leaves them unattended for some indeterminate period of time (and then put them politely away when the guest starts talking)

coronatae
Oct 14, 2012

For those curious, this is the portrait mentioned in 9CL

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

coronatae posted:

For those curious, this is the portrait mentioned in 9CL



So the similarities are a) it's black and b) it's kind of low cut. :jerkbag:

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EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Yeah, but the real question is has it made you horny yet?

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