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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

hoo boy has that one specifically not aged well










just formally though, actually, cause it's obviously still written from a position of concern and just combined with a joke about Calvin being Calvin rather than using him as a strawman.

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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

My Lovely Horse posted:

hoo boy has that one specifically not aged well


just formally though, actually, cause it's obviously still written from a position of concern and just combined with a joke about Calvin being Calvin rather than using him as a strawman.

Why do you say it hasn't aged well? It was a legitimate concern then, and still is now. And I appreciate how Watterson managed to preach and turn it into a fun punchline.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005



StrixNebulosa posted:

WAIT if iraq man isn't funky, I FOUND HIM



and since I found him, I have a special gift for you all, give me a minute to get it together
I think part of the confusion is the time-jump that happened soon after Lisa died, where they went from now, to now but 10 years from now.

FrumpleOrz posted:

Is that a thing, hanging a hairdryer on the wall?
I've seen wall-mounted ones in hotel rooms. I don't know how common those are/were in homes.

F Minus



Mark Trail



Of course, you endangered them by running off in the first place, so, again, back to the orphanage.

Mary Worth



The Phantom



May as well eat it. Can't just leave it lyin' there.

Pooch Cafe



Rex Morgan MD



Andertoons



:(

Apartment 3-G

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

I'd laugh if I weren't currently getting abusive end of year emails from these absent parents about how I didn't do enough to help their kid pass.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

No thanks to Lizzo..
People should not forget the humor that Funky Winkerbean has birthed:

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003



Ghostlight posted:

That's the crazy thing. He's alive and still appearing in the strip. He's the owner of the pizza parlour that sometimes people visit for no reason, and the father of the Iraq war veteran who hasn't been seen in what feels like two years.
Based on how people in the strip treat the pizza place it must be one of like, two at most restaurants in town.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

StrixNebulosa posted:

Why do you say it hasn't aged well? It was a legitimate concern then, and still is now. And I appreciate how Watterson managed to preach and turn it into a fun punchline.
Formally (I can't stress that enough) it's very close to the "child complains about climate change, smart parent remarks how child benefits directly from environmentally harmful behaviour and thereby implies/proves their hypocrisy to the audience" that's become a whole alt-right strategy, like scouring every image of Greta Thunberg for evidence she uses plastic or rides in a car. I could very easily see Fort Knox or One Big Happy use the exact same structure and much of the phrasing to make that point (in OBH it would be Ruthie doing the remarking), Dilbert probably has done it, that one utterly dreadful grandparent strip someone (Tiggum?) posted a few times in this thread has definitely done it almost verbatim. And I'm sure someone must have shared that very Calvin & Hobbes strip on Facebook intending to use it as a "yet you partake in society" kind of jab complete with :cryingwhilelaughing: emojis.

riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
Garfield



Heathcliff



Overboard



Monty

someone awful.
Sep 7, 2007


Pastry of the Year posted:


Arlo and Janis Classic (October 3, 1998)



i absolutely love the detail of the cat is sitting atop the monitor. takes me back to my childhood, where you absolutely could not have the computer screen on without one of the cats hopping up there to absorb the warmth :3: when we finally upgraded to a flat screen monitor there was much confusion and upset

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

someone awful. posted:

i absolutely love the detail of the cat is sitting atop the monitor. takes me back to my childhood, where you absolutely could not have the computer screen on without one of the cats hopping up there to absorb the warmth :3: when we finally upgraded to a flat screen monitor there was much confusion and upset

Many a cat was depraved of a warm nap after the switch to LCD screens.

csammis
Aug 26, 2003

Mental Institution

LazyQ posted:

Mämmilä



In the penultimate panel we see Taina Suominen, Heimo's wife. She will evolve into quite a character.

I am really loving Mämmilä, thank you so much for taking the time to post it

Sailor Cat
Aug 28, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

How Wonderful! posted:

Dykes to Watch Out For #42 (1988)



Mo isn't actually manifesting a sacred aureole, it's just my scanner.

Mo doesn't strike me as a Monica. Maybe a Maureen

Ghostlight posted:

Majinaughey




Sailor Cat fucked around with this message at 16:05 on May 13, 2020

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Sally Forth



Skippy (December 8, 1932)



Peanuts (May 16, 1973)



Funky Winkerbean



Crankshaft



Two Pedantic Assholes Mocking The Plebs (or "Welcome back to the OTHER major theme of 9 Chickweed Lane")



Rip Haywire



Thimble Theater (December 12, 1936)



Out Our Way (June 25-27, 1934)





Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


EasyEW posted:


Funky Winkerbean



Batiuk surprisingly admitting Lisa's Story is actually about Les and not Lisa

Julet Esqu
May 6, 2007




All this "music is meaningless and you're dumb if it stirs an emotion or reminds you of a thing" from the same strip where the characters get all horned up every time they play Brahms* because you can just tell when he wrote that that he just wanted to FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. It is dumbfounding to me Booke's implication that composers never had a specific image or inspiration in mind when composing a piece or that you, the listener, are a moron if an image or memory was brought to your mind when listening to it.

I know there are classical music goons in this thread. Do you or your classical music friends or collegues get all indignant and superior when somebody tells you they enjoyed a piece because it made them feel something?


*Or Chopin. Or Mozart. I don't remember which specific composer Brooke jerks it to.



Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?
Is this another rare good character emerging in Luann? Also Big Ick is a man of heroic character. And really everything about Thimble Theater is perfect.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




EasyEW posted:



Two Pedantic Assholes Mocking The Plebs (or "Welcome back to the OTHER major theme of 9 Chickweed Lane")




"A man came up to me and said something perfectly innocent. I acted as a humongous rear end in a top hat but is somehow still the good guy in this scenario."

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Julet Esqu posted:

I know there are classical music goons in this thread. Do you or your classical music friends or collegues get all indignant and superior when somebody tells you they enjoyed a piece because it made them feel something?

I worked at a pretty prestigious chamber music festival after college and I have never heard anybody say anything like the 9CL dweebs. Especially, since like-- a lot of classical compositions have titles that are not just word salad (Pictures at an Exhibition, for example is... explicitly pictorial! And Proust, a guy I'm sure McEldowney would love to namedrop whenever possible, also writes about music as having profound associations with memory and visual recall). Also opera exists and contra the presumptions of 9CL I guess the funny mouth sounds in it are actually words in a different language that are conveying information.

Most people I worked with also understood that classical music is a niche thing with a pretty high and intimidating entry barrier and so making fun of people for having an immediate emotional response to beauty is a loving stupid move as well as a shockingly rude one.

How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 13, 2020

riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!

EasyEW posted:


Out Our Way (June 25-27, 1934)



gonna need this one Red and Rover'd

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

riderchop posted:

gonna need this one Red and Rover'd

They're doing a prank, as far as I can tell.

It's making the band member's mouths reflexively salivate/twitch.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
Dykes to Watch Out For #43 (1988)



I don't know why the first scan came out so poorly. I'll mess around later tonight and try to get a better image.
Anyway, this is the end of the coming out story. I like how relatively understated it is-- no real big drama ever ensues from it. This strip in particular also includes one of the occasional references to Harriet's commune upbringing.

"Waterfall," which either Harriet or Bechdel misremember as being titled "Filling Up and Spilling Over" (the refrain in the chorus) is a song from the lesbian songwriter Cris Williamson's 1975 LP The Changer and the Changed. It's an interesting album-- an Olivia Record release produced entirely by women which reportedly sold over 500,000 copies. Olivia Records, which was cofounded by Williamson along with Meg Christian and Judy Dlugacz, was an outrageously important outlet for feminist music through the 70s and into the 80s. It was founded in response to the continued exclusion of woman artists in various countercultural and queer spaces, and to their tremendous credit towards the latter half of the 70s they recognized too the overwhelming whiteness of many of those spaces and went to considerable lengths to produce and release work by musicians of color, including Linda Tillery's self-titled second album.

Just because I have my hobbyhorse and I think it's important to note things like this, Olivia Records' sound engineer from 1974-1978 was the great Sandy Stone, who resigned after the anti-trans writer Janice Raymond whipped up a frenzy over Stone's presence in an all-women artist collective, writing that her "male energy" would dominate and destroy the group's creative productions. The rest of the collective fwiw stood up for Stone vigorously throughout the whole thing but with the threat of a label-wide boycott looming Stone voluntarily stepped down.

Anyway, The Changer and the Changed is a pretty great album if you have any patience for 70's folk stuff, and "Waterfall" in particular, written by none other than Carly Simon, really remains kind of a banger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlXPZVvImJ8
It definitely gives an immediate and charming sense of the Harriet-family vibe.

I'm not sure if Jezenna's aghast reaction is about the baby pictures or about the Williamson. 1988 was the year Olivia gave up the ghost as a record label (it morphed, somehow, into a lesbian travel agency?) and it had definitely lagged behind the changing shape of feminist music in the 80s, but I don't know if there was any ill-will about it. Maybe a sense of cringiness over an older, more naive moment in history.

How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 13, 2020

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.

riderchop posted:

gonna need this one Red and Rover'd

It's an old comedy trope that sucking on a lemon in front of a brass band makes a horn player's mouth shrivel like a prune. Zany hijinks and atonality usually ensue.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017


Oh boy, this is gonna be the start of Les telling everyone how much he hates the idea of people trying to touch his precious book, and that he can't trust the greedy bastards in Hollywood to work on it.

Doomykins posted:

Is this another rare good character emerging in Luann? Also Big Ick is a man of heroic character. And really everything about Thimble Theater is perfect.

There's still a good chance that Luann's mom is gonna be like Gunther, in that he was decent toward Tiff for one part, but is otherwise a completely lovely person.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

Live, laugh, kupo!

It's the repeated "born thirty years too soon" caption in those strips that befuddles me. I understand the phrase to mean "ahead of his time" but it never seems to fit the picture it's with.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Bruceski posted:

It's the repeated "born thirty years too soon" caption in those strips that befuddles me. I understand the phrase to mean "ahead of his time" but it never seems to fit the picture it's with.

I thought it was the author saying they (and like-aged readers) were born 30 years too soon, because kids today have it so good. I pointed out that I thought that was ironic, since in 1934 all these 10 year olds are just coming out of the depression and also about to fight in WW2.

But I remember the thread deciding this was the incorrect reading of the caption, but I genuinely don't remember how or why.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Bruceski posted:

It's the repeated "born thirty years too soon" caption in those strips that befuddles me. I understand the phrase to mean "ahead of his time" but it never seems to fit the picture it's with.

A lot of times its just “The 1890’s Sucked and were boring and you had to walk a lot”.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
"Lol the past sucked in specific ways"

Transmodiar
Jul 9, 2005

You're a terrible person, Mildred.
Modesty Blaise



catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Conan the Barbarian Sept. 25th, 1978-Oct. 1st, 1978









Huh, weird typo there in the Sunday with Sutro's name.

Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.
The Far Side
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“You fool! ‘Bring the honey,’ I said. … This isn’t the same thing!”

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“Bozo? Did you hear that? She called me a bozo!”

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And I suppose you think this is a dream come true.”

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“Okay, let’s take a look at you.”

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“This is getting pretty eerie, Simmons. … Another skull, another fortune.”

Pickles


Zits

Somebody fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jul 25, 2022

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"


College Slice
Docks




Retail




Zip


Rip


Dick




Duck


Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Buni



Rhymes with Orange



Get Fuzzy 5/12/00



Ah yes, the days when "Red Sox" was synonymous with "loser."

Brenda Starr 9/22/40





Smokey Stover 4/28/35

Selachian fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 13, 2020

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



StrixNebulosa posted:

wait what the gently caress this guy isn't Funky Winkerbean????



Strix, if I can make a humble request (since I think it's around the time of these strips), can you post the story where Wally steps on a landmine if you come across it?

I seem to remember it going on for weeks, and having a really, really dumb conclusion.

You're cool for wading through this old stuff.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Selachian posted:

Brenda Starr 9/22/40





I love how stupid this comic is.

e.

Kennel fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 13, 2020

Haifisch
Nov 12, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
:smith:

Mary Worth, where cheaters always win.

How Wonderful! posted:

Dykes to Watch Out For #43 (1988)


I love/hate that all these stories sound similar to the coming-out stories I still hear and read today. Although which ones are most common nowadays depend on what flavor of queer you are.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

LadyPictureShow posted:

Strix, if I can make a humble request (since I think it's around the time of these strips), can you post the story where Wally steps on a landmine if you come across it?

I seem to remember it going on for weeks, and having a really, really dumb conclusion.

You're cool for wading through this old stuff.

Yeah sure, google says it's somewhere in 2005 I'll go have a look-----------








:psyduck:

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

StrixNebulosa posted:

Yeah sure, google says it's somewhere in 2005 I'll go have a look-----------








:psyduck:

It's like those political cartoons where the punchline is the word DEFICIT or NATIONAL DEBT.

Also Laura is have a stoke at the same time Dubya is choking on another pretzel.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

god drat, it takes about 36 strips to cover the land mine storyline and all the surrounding "a dumb american writes about life in the middle east" stuff. I'm going to pull a true batiuk and interrupt cancerwife to post this - half today, half tomorrow. you're welcome.

Funky Winkerbean - 2005, July 10, 13, 15, 17-19, 21, 26, August 1-6. From what I can tell, I've skipped a years-past storyline where Wally was in Afghanistan and got his helicopter shot down. He's been having PTSD about it, but he's back anyways to help with a de-mining project.



















Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
So Wally's a racist idiot simpleton American tourist huh

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Gatto Grigio
Feb 9, 2020

Like cancer itself, Funky Winkerbean has metastasized and infected the thread.

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