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Dykes to Watch Out #66 (1989)![]() ![]() Here's the start of another pretty substantial arc that builds up over time but is largely missing from the Essential. I really like it. Mo's been high strung and even paranoid all along, and I know Bechdel received numerous letters calling her "whiny," but at the same time somebody like Mo certainly did have plenty to legitimately worry about. I think as the strip moved towards more of a commitment to drama and continuity it became increasingly important to address that Mo's stretched pretty thin and is at this point on a trajectory to either have a total breakdown or to totally alienate everybody around her. This is a pretty cool move for a long-running strip-- without spoiling too much, Mo suffers the reasonable consequences of her broadest personality traits, has a crisis, and then gets help from her friends and support system. Along the way we get some fun moments from seeing her normal personality inverted-- the apathetic, blase Mo we'll see in a bit is sad but gives us some good gags. Saturn return is an astrology thing, it's when Saturn returns to where it was at the moment of one's birth. This usually takes about 29.5 years and if you're into that kind of thing you might attribute a lot of the shakeups and crises that accompany your early 30s to this catastrophic homecoming. It's often glossed as a threshold into maturity, representing confronting and overcoming the follies of youth and moving into adulthood. Trust me, I live in West Philly. As mentioned before, Olivia Records was a super important feminist record label and collective which by the late 80s had suffered a number of economic setbacks and failed to keep up with trends and general growth in women's music. Their death rattle occurred when they stopped releasing new music and pivoted entirely to gimmicky cruise packages.
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https://twitter.com/KenJennings/status/1266811857601359872
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Conan the Barbarian Jan. 22nd, 1979- Jan. 28th, 1979![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Also, man, gently caress Brad.
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Julet Esqu posted:
(It's probably not a coincidence people like that are the ones who go to reddit for advice when their relationships start circling the drain)
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sweeperbravo posted:This is a dumb question, I'm sure. I definitely remember lunch table anxiety, though it was more about having a solid friend group than anything else. In middle school I was in an experimental gifted and talented track for the first two years, we were separated from all the mainstream classes so we only knew each other. When I started to get bullied by the other girls I was stuck still trying to sit with them at lunch because there was nobody else, and they were stuck trying to pile bags on the empty seat to try to stop me. It was extremely awkward and tense all around and I started failing all my classes. I've never been a 'theatre kid' so I have no idea if the techie bias is a thing or not. I was in choir and vaguely remember doing backstage work was considered less prestigious than being on stage, but there were a whole group of kids that did tech work and set building so it's not like there was, like, a single isolated lighting tech. That said, I imagine the new author doesn't want to flood us with characters and is massively simplifying.
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How Wonderful! posted:Dykes to Watch Out #66 (1989) 29.5 years is almost exactly Bechdel's age when she wrote this. So maybe there's a bit of autobiographical leakage she feels embarrassed about.
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I was in theatre in high school and there was definitely a difference between the people on the stage and the people behind it. You became a techie if you wanted to be in the theatre but couldn't act/sing/look the part. I mean there were techies I remember who only did it because their friends were already there, or they needed some activity to put on a transcript and there were plenty of places to wait out and get high. I also remember the best advice I ever got was from a techie who was a year or two older than me, and ended up getting suspended/sent off to one of those 'accelerated' schools for dropouts/soon to be. He was painting a backdrop and watched me bust my rear end to finish one before starting on another, and he, skaterboy to a tee to my idiot overachieving freshman, told me to stop busting it. If I gave 100% my first day, they'd expect it from me every time. So slack off, paint half a backdrop and take a break. I remember laughing to myself because I was clearly not going to listen to a slacker idiot. I ended up painting a dozen or more backdrops that year and never got a drat thank you from anyone.
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Alhazred posted:Intet Nytt Fra Hjemmefronten I learned all my curse words from people who were told them in church for this same reason.
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In today's installment of Keeping Up With the Joneses, another double-perspective punchline: either Aloysius is too uncultured to appreciate good reproduction Jacobean furniture, or Jacobean furniture is silly-looking rubbish.
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Parahexavoctal posted:In today's installment of Keeping Up With the Joneses, another double-perspective punchline: either Aloysius is too uncultured to appreciate good reproduction Jacobean furniture, or Jacobean furniture is silly-looking rubbish. bah
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Medenmath posted:Vintage Valiant (Jul. 02, 1939) Not like this. ![]()
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curtadams posted:I think the Saturn Return arc is less funny than average for Bechdel, although not remotely enough to drop it. Astrology is also less known to the public now because of the decline of newspapers. Everybody used to know about astrology signs from a column with vapid predictions by sign on a page very close to the funnies (facing it in my childhood newspaper). Now you don't find out about it unless you look for it. But like voluntary communes, people still know enough to understand the jokes. I didn't actually know what a "Saturn Return" was at the time it came out and I didn't feel I needed to learn it. (I note Harriet doesn't seem to know what it is either). That's some pretty fair logic, but I think people still extremely into astrology. Coworkers at my last office job, all late-20s to mid-30s absolutely loved talking about their horoscopes on a daily basis. I think social media has had a major part in keeping the tradition alive. I'd argue that maybe (hopefully) people take them less seriously but who knows.
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Medenmath posted:Vintage Valiant (Jul. 02, 1939) I guess Val joined a cult.
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PetraCore posted:I've never been a 'theatre kid' so I have no idea if the techie bias is a thing or not. I was in choir and vaguely remember doing backstage work was considered less prestigious than being on stage, but there were a whole group of kids that did tech work and set building so it's not like there was, like, a single isolated lighting tech. That said, I imagine the new author doesn't want to flood us with characters and is massively simplifying. I had some choir and limited theatre experience (was shanghai'd into doing Fiddler on the Roof because my mom and brother were already involved and they needed more men who could sing for the chorus), in my experience the tech folks didn't interact too much with the performers just because of where they needed to be/downtime overlaps, but were viewed with mild amounts of awe. "Oh wow, they trust him in the lighting booth!" "Leigh choreographed this routine herself? I can barely walk across the stage without a script." Small town though so it was folks we already knew, and the culture of the place definitely appreciated technical knowledge. Also I'm a massive nerd, so I personally apprewciated technical knowledge even above typical for the town.
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Prince Valiant: No Longer the Fun Kind of Murder
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Green Intern posted:I guess Val joined a cult. When your favorite pastime is killing your enemies, there isn't a lot of options when you pick your friends.
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Bingo Bango posted:That's some pretty fair logic, but I think people still extremely into astrology. Coworkers at my last office job, all late-20s to mid-30s absolutely loved talking about their horoscopes on a daily basis. I think social media has had a major part in keeping the tradition alive. I'd argue that maybe (hopefully) people take them less seriously but who knows. I work in a town with a higher than average New Age population and astrology kind of rubbed off on me because so many of the people around me were into it. Not to say that I'm in super deep, but I know both my regular sign and my moon sign and I've been known to look up a horoscope and if poo poo's weird and the moon isn't full I'll check to see what Mercury is up to. It's fun to do and it can give you a starting point to think about yourself and how things are going in your life. I don't actually believe any of it though. I suspect that's how a lot of people are, but maybe they're not and I'm just more analytical about it because I'm a Virgo.
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Pastry of the Year posted:
Ouch. Arlo and Janis does not pull punches sometimes.
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Some Guy TT posted:Cheer Up Boss Dharma
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Very much in approval of the new thread title.
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Julet Esqu posted:I work in a town with a higher than average New Age population and astrology kind of rubbed off on me because so many of the people around me were into it. Not to say that I'm in super deep, but I know both my regular sign and my moon sign and I've been known to look up a horoscope and if poo poo's weird and the moon isn't full I'll check to see what Mercury is up to. It's fun to do and it can give you a starting point to think about yourself and how things are going in your life. I don't actually believe any of it though. I suspect that's how a lot of people are, but maybe they're not and I'm just more analytical about it because I'm a Virgo. "[i posted:Mostly Harmless[/i] by Douglas Adams"]
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Doomykins posted:Prince Valiant: No Longer the Fun Kind of Murder Of course Val would hate this. His whole deal is making sure it's the other guy who dies.
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Bingo Bango posted:That's some pretty fair logic, but I think people still extremely into astrology. Coworkers at my last office job, all late-20s to mid-30s absolutely loved talking about their horoscopes on a daily basis. I think social media has had a major part in keeping the tradition alive. I'd argue that maybe (hopefully) people take them less seriously but who knows. Julet Esqu posted:I work in a town with a higher than average New Age population and astrology kind of rubbed off on me because so many of the people around me were into it. Not to say that I'm in super deep, but I know both my regular sign and my moon sign and I've been known to look up a horoscope and if poo poo's weird and the moon isn't full I'll check to see what Mercury is up to. It's fun to do and it can give you a starting point to think about yourself and how things are going in your life. I don't actually believe any of it though. I suspect that's how a lot of people are, but maybe they're not and I'm just more analytical about it because I'm a Virgo. curtadams fucked around with this message at 01:27 on May 31, 2020 |
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BigDave posted:Sorry for the delay, I'm up in Minnesota and thing have been a little...riot-y lately. Stay safe. My brother's up in Minneapolis right now and I'm trying to not worry all night. The Lockhorns ![]() Brewster Rockit Space Guy ![]() On The Fastrack ![]() Safe Havens ![]() Kevin & Kell ![]() Mother Goose & Grimm ![]() Hagar The Horrible ![]() Sherman's Lagoon ![]() Ella Cinders ![]()
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That upside-down kid boils my blood more than pretty much anything else Holbrook does.
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Medenmath posted:Vintage Valiant (Jul. 02, 1939) Powered Descent had Camoron's number almost from the start (2nd strip of the series): Powered Descent posted:Two reactions:
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Howard Beale posted:Very much in approval of the new thread title. I like it, but I was kind of hoping for one involving the dudelsack, the sackbut, and the fagot.
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Vargo posted:Wallace I feel like the running joke of Wallace's dad forgetting who Spud is can probably retired at this point - considering how much time they spend together and how few people Wallace really hangs out with it's almost cruel now.
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Can I get an isolated version of the huns in this recent valiant, like the previous shot of the huns that I got? There's potential for a "my plans"/"2020" here, among other things.BigDave posted:It kinda does, but it's not as explicit. I blame the whole 'high school is a caste system with clearly defined groups of specific 'types'' on lazy screenwriters in the 80's. It's really hard to explain all the socioeconomical nuances of high school social groupings in a 90 minute movie, but its really easy to use groups like jocks, nerds, popular rich girl, etc. To be fair, it's also easier in most other media. Having characters in, say, a comic strip, explain and follow these strict, stated categories is way more straightforward to communicate, especially when you're trying to explain what's wrong with the real, underlying behavioral stuff. FrumpleOrz posted:Ella Cinders I love the constant flow of...are they similies? metaphors? in this strip. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 31, 2020 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:That upside-down kid boils my blood more than pretty much anything else Holbrook does. don't forget he inherited that trait from his father
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Discendo Vox posted:Can I get an isolated version of the huns in this recent valiant, like the previous shot of the huns that I got? There's potential for a "my plans"/"2020" here, among other things. Here's my quick effort to edit out the stuff at the bottom: ![]() And here's a big scan if you want to try to clean it up yourself. Discendo Vox posted:To be fair, it's also easier in most other media. Having characters in, say, a comic strip, explain and follow these strict, stated categories is way more straightforward to communicate, especially when you're trying to explain what's wrong with the real, underlying behavioral stuff. I remember a few years ago I saw one of those "kids react" type videos on YouTube where some high schoolers watched a home video of a lunch hour at a high school in the 80s and they all commented how things seemed much more cliquey than they were used to, so maybe these tropes used to be more true to life and haven't caught up with the modern day yet. As a kid I remember thinking shows set in schools seemed to be set in the past, and since most people making TV shows, comics, etc. are adults, it makes sense that things would lag by a few decades. curtadams posted:Powered Descent had Camoron's number almost from the start (2nd strip of the series): Yeah, I considered commenting on that post at the time. Camoran's intent from the beginning was to party until they couldn't party any more, and then die pretty. Val has no problem killing people or risking his own life, but he prefers there at least to be a point to it. Medenmath fucked around with this message at 03:56 on May 31, 2020 |
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In today's Corto Maltese: Vasily gets over his life quickly, or Rasputin rolls a one on his stealth check, or Cpt. Suto has an incredible grasp of real politik![]() ![]() ![]()
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At my high school stagecraft was basically just shop class, except in an environment where you couldn't have shop class anymore because of the safety risks. There were few enough students between Drama 2, 3, and Stagecraft that it was all the same class. And the teacher kind of just let the drama students fend for themselves after a certain point because the wrestling coach / math teacher who used to do shop came down one day and just said dude you can't let these teenagers be messing around with power tools without adult supervision. It was a very strange bedfellows kind of class because while some Stagecraft kids were just treating it like Drama 4 there were a bunch of guys and gals who just really liked the idea of playing with power tools during school hours and didn't especially give a poo poo if that meant having to take orders from the drama teacher and hang out with drama kids. The scariest motherfucker in the whole school was in that class my sophomore year. Chatted with him a few times. Easy to see why he was scary. No social graces, not very smart, built like a tank, but not terribly mean-spirited. Anyway that's my needlessly specific story for why I find this Heart story really dumb. It's not that high school cliques don't exist it's that teenagers don't really overthink them like they're in a John Hughes movie and most will jump around between at least a couple of different groups depending on their interests and not think this is particularly significant or noteworthy. Full disclosure- my anecdote dates to the early 2000's. Ghostlight posted:It initially read to me like all of these were soundbites from the coronavirus story, not sequential headlines unrelated to each other, so uh one of these was quite surprising in that context. Short version of the comfort woman story is that comfort women have been getting mad at House of Sharing, the main well-known Korean charity connected with comfort women, because they've been huge cheapskates when it comes to providing elder care for the few surviving comfort women. Medium version is that this all came out because someone noticed that House of Sharing has been buying a lot of real estate, and also building and maintaining educational facilities in weird places no one uses while hiring a bunch of phantom staff with no obvious function except to soak up a lot of benefits. Long version is uh, just read this article.
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LazyQ posted:Mämmilä This is great, I love everything about this ...except what are those ladies doing? I don't recognize that contraption.
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