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RoboRodent posted:This is just so condescending. On the other hand has literally anyone in this girl's life talked to her about her loss before this or did they immediately ship her off to a random relative she doesn't even know? This whole set-up is kind of a mess.
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Johnny Walker posted:OK, I've been confused about this storyline a bit. Did Ann fake a pregnancy before she was engaged? All I remember seeing is Tiffany found a sonogram on the back of a picture frame and jumped to conclusions. Now, then when confronted with this, Ann did go along, which is weird, I'm just confused by that. Tiffany sound the sonogram hidden in Ann's room (taped to the back of a photo I think)? Tiffany brought up the baby and Ann "admitted" to being pregnant but not telling Tom yet. While visiting Les, Tiffany found Les's old sonogram in a box of baby stuff that Les had from Ann, and realized it was identical to the one she saw earlier. When confronted about this Ann eventually gave up trying to deny it was the same one and admitted she wasn't actually pregnant.
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So why did she even pretend instead of just saying she had kept one of Les' because she's such a good mother/wife? I assume it is similar to when a d&d player with 8 int tries to play a character with 18 int.
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Johnny Walker posted:
"Whoa, guess I'm still pretty high."
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Alhazred posted:"Whoa, guess I'm still pretty high." Cool teens getting bit by fleas to trip
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Julet Esqu posted:I still find it baffling that Evans thinks Delta is impossible to write for. A leukemia survivor. Extremely politically minded (and a lefty). One of the only black characters in the strip. Yeah, I can't think of any storylines that could possibly involve somebody like that. I may be poisoned by the Politoons thread, but I feel like its less they can't think of storylines featuring her as much as trying to write someone who is A)Black, B)Leftist, and C)Female is about as alien to them as writing a realistic perspective of a starfish or something.
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Poil posted:So why did she even pretend instead of just saying she had kept one of Les' because she's such a good mother/wife?
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Ashsaber posted:I may be poisoned by the Politoons thread, but I feel like its less they can't think of storylines featuring her as much as trying to write someone who is A)Black, B)Leftist, and C)Female is about as alien to them as writing a realistic perspective of a starfish or something.
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I'm just shocked that a Luann story arc is coming to something resembling an actual conclusion, instead of suddenly lurching off into a couple weeks of the Adventures of Knute before resolving anything.riderchop posted:Overboard Protip: "beat the heat" by not wearing full suits of quilted pajamas when it's hot out EasyEW posted:Saint Lisa: The Movie Then maybe don't sit there watching every second of it, you rear end in a top hat!
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Johnny Walker posted:This was what was bothering me. They were engaged already and she was showing off the ring when Tiff brought this up. The (ironically unplanned) fake pregnancy was completely unnecessary and incredibly dumb.
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curtadams posted:I think the idea was that the fake pregnancy was her backup plan for getting married if Tiff's dad didn't propose to her. It was this, hence its being hidden until Tiff went snooping
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coronatae posted:It was this, hence its being hidden until Tiff went snooping So basically this entire thing hinged on her having multiple plans to manipulate him, but being too dumb to maintain plausible deniability. Like, say, keeping the sonogram around but not writing on it until she 'had' to use it.
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Medenmath posted:Vintage Valiant (Apr. 21, 1940) Hell yeah, Slith. You David those guys.
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PetraCore posted:And Ann had already written a note to Tom on the back of the sonogram, thus going along with it instead of admitting it was Les. And she had a slam dunk if she'd instantly abandoned the plan once Tiffany brought down the picture, revealed she wasn't pregnant, and turned the whole thing on Tiffany for going through her stuff while she was away. Perhaps Ann could claim she saw it on a youtube clip, and wanted to see what it might look like if she had the opportunity.
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maltesh posted:And she had a slam dunk if she'd instantly abandoned the plan once Tiffany brought down the picture, revealed she wasn't pregnant, and turned the whole thing on Tiffany for going through her stuff while she was away. Perhaps Ann could claim she saw it on a youtube clip, and wanted to see what it might look like if she had the opportunity. Or when confronted with the picture with her writing on it, she might have said "Yes, I was going to surprise you with this, but before I could... tragedy struck and I lost the baby. It was over a year ago now and I just haven't been able to break your heart by telling you." Boom, she's out of trouble and gets sympathy to boot, and now she can attack Tiff for snooping. Instead she just went with the then-unnecessary plan that had no clear exit strategy and ended up backfiring horribly when it was disproved. She's truly a criminal mastermind.
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Do sonograms have dates or names or anything printed on them? I've never had kids but I always thought there'd be something like "Mildred Jones 7/12/2020" on it.
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Poil posted:So why did she even pretend instead of just saying she had kept one of Les' because she's such a good mother/wife? Because she put it in an envelope addressed to Tiff's dad. (Tiff opened it because she was being nosy.) Apparently the fake pregnancy was a backup plan to be deployed if she didn't get a proposal during the camping trip. When Tiff found the sonogram Ann had to just play along or blow her cover. Why Ann put the sonogram out before they left for the trip, I don't know. Edit: gently caress, SUUUUUUPER beaten
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Drimble Wedge posted:Do sonograms have dates or names or anything printed on them? I've never had kids but I always thought there'd be something like "Mildred Jones 7/12/2020" on it. I think the Evanses might just be dumb.
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Julet Esqu posted:Why Ann put the sonogram out before they left for the trip, I don't know. The Dinette Set will need a doggy bag.  Working Daze I don't even loving know what the joke is supposed to be.  Super-Fun-Pak Comix is brought to you by TVTropes.  Cul De Sac needs to spring into action!  e: I love how simply drawn yet expressive all the kids in the background are in that Cul De Sac. Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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The working daze joke is that disinfect wipes are the most valuable prize in pandemic times
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ukonvasara posted:Protip: "beat the heat" by not wearing full suits of quilted pajamas when it's hot out those are his raidin' pajamas, for raidin'
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Evil Mastermind posted:Super-Fun-Pak Comix is brought to you by TVTropes. speaking of luann
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you broke my grill posted:The working daze joke is that disinfect wipes are the most valuable prize in pandemic times It can't be. Jokes are funny and that's aggressively unfunny.
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Regarding Luann's sudden twist to a positive concusion; I think the Evanses, like a lot of comic strip authors, can't stand the temptation of stretching out a story way too much before reaching the resolution that they have in mind. You might have a long list of jokes in mind you can use in the build up to the conclusion, and since every joke is another day's comic, you keep it going, unaware that your readers are being worn down and wondering wtf is wrong with you. To be fair, the daily strip format tempts meandering like few other media. (and Luann is particularly guilty)
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you broke my grill posted:The working daze joke is that disinfect wipes are the most valuable prize in pandemic times Evil Mastermind posted:It can't be. Jokes are funny and that's aggressively unfunny. The joke is that the contestant thinks they have a "hard" choice when they actually have to pick a curtain to reveal one of the prizes at random.
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B Kliban Welcome to US healthcare! If you're story is compelling enough the studio audience will vote to have you get the necessary work to keep you alive! 
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Dykes to Watch Out For #86 (1990) -Alison Bechdel  I've been under the weather a little bit and mostly phone-posting, so apologies for the missed days. I think the commitment ceremony storyline is a lot of fun and one of many notably strong Toni and Clarice threads throughout the life of the comic. Note the full names in the first panel-- Bechdel has mentioned only giving full names when context makes it necessary or important, and I think the sense of intimacy and community throughout this little arc makes this small gesture of disclosure land just right. Note the continuing friction between Mo and Harriet-- in a sense it just carries over Mo's fussing and feuding from the last strip but when taken out of the context of her teasing friendship with Lois and into the context of her increasingly tense relationship with Harriet it feels a lot more loaded and frayed. I like how this is frayed in terms of closeness, touch, and care-- the first vignette has Sparrow asking for Ginger's help in zipping up her dress, and the last has Toni and Clarice sitting knee-to-knee in a somewhat cramped looking tub, as comfortable and happy together as we'll ever get to see them, even accounting for the wryly grumpy faces in the last panel. By contrast, Mo and Harriet are getting dressed without touching each other, or, significantly, even looking at each other. Take a look at the eye-lines everywhere else in this strip, especially in the last two panels with Sparrow and co. and the first panel with Toni and Clarice, then look back at how Mo and Harriet are staged. There's a clear sense of a line of intimate communication eroding away-- the only moment of touch we get between them is Mo's glancing and kind of irritable hair-tousling. Anyway, the Radical Faeries were a countercultural movement, largely made up of gay men, which sort of synthesized a queer rejection of heteronormative social practices and elements of neo-paganism with a wide-ranging and broadly leftist social program. As a point of reference, a key text for them was Arthur Evans' 1978 Witchcraft and the Gay Counterculture: A Radical View of Western Civilization and Some of the People It Has Tried to Destroy a wildly syncretic polemic which is still widely read by a certain stripe of witchy (mostly West Coast) queers. Ditto their reverence for Larry Mitchell's 1977 novel/manifesto The Faggots and Their Friends Between the Revolutions (now back in print with the great Nightboat Books), which is essentially an interesting argument for ludic gay cultural seperatism, and which kind of sets up and forecasts a lot of the assimilation-adjacent battlelines being drawn around terms like "dyke" and "lesbian" in the late 80s and early 90s seen just a few strips back in DtWOF. By all accounts they had a lot of fun and the usual amounts of in-fighting and fracturing during the 80s and early 90s. They did a lot of drag and "gender outlaw" stuff, hence, presumably Sparrow's borrowing of a pretty cute frock from one of their members. I hope Adam wore it just as well. John Cameron Mitchell, of Hedwig and the Angry Inch, Short Bus, and Rabbit Hole fame, is a prominent contemporary member of the movement. There's a lot more to say about the Radical Faeries-- for one thing they were an offshoot of the much different, socially and politically speaking, Mattachine Society, so they represent a very drastic sea-change in gay activism-- and I think Bechdel giving them a nod here is pretty cool, but a) I'm still feeling crummy, b) outside of very specific milieus like the Berkeley Renaissance, New York School, and New Narrative guys I'm much much shakier on gay male history than lesbian history so I don't want to pretend to be authoritative about this. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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Medenmath posted:Prince Valiant Val, I’m pretty sure any level of arsenic is bad.
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Cheer Up Boss Dharma    The timing is entirely coincidental but I can't help but admire the appropriateness of my getting around to this around the same time that John Lewis died.
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