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Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Spud has gone a level beyond Super Saiyan.

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JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Vargo posted:

What the gently caress is that Chickweed?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: 9CL is, by the Supreme Court's definition, Pornography.

quote:

Wallace



This, however, this is amazing.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

Live, laugh, kupo!

catlord posted:

Good lord. And good lord to that Jump Start. That said though, I'm glad to see Fritzi Ritz show up again, even if it's a one-off.

Lio's what raised my eyebrows. Is the author saying the NIH's recommendations are a trap to make Covid worse?

ukonvasara
Aug 16, 2012

a mixture of gravity and waggery

Bruceski posted:

Lio's what raised my eyebrows. Is the author saying the NIH's recommendations are a trap to make Covid worse?

I think it's just presenting an amusing situation in which a comically oversized coronavirus has baited a trap with something desirable to potential victims.

Drimble Wedge
Mar 10, 2008

Self-contained

Scary Gary disappoints me with its copied and pasted panels





How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
I don't want to out and out ban stuff on a whim because like, even Dilbert had it's defenders and people who missed it, but I would not shed any tears if 9CL just vanished. It's not breaking any rules though it's just extremely disgusting on an ontological level, so if someone wants to post it I guess they can keep posting it until they do, I don't know, a Holocaust denial arc or something.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Bruceski posted:

Lio's what raised my eyebrows. Is the author saying the NIH's recommendations are a trap to make Covid worse?

IIRC Lio's sort of a professional terrible opinion haver, like the green monster from Gary.

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

In this The Timid Soul, more attention to detail in terms of the reflections on the polished floor. This is the first I've ever seen the term "speculator" in a context where it would mean what we today describe as "ticket scalper".

I'll admit I don't 100% get the joke here - is it "anyone who wasn't such a laughable coward would try to bullshit their way into the performance anyway" ?

(and it bothers me that he's saying "here goes $22" instead of "there goes $22")

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Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Selachian posted:

Brenda Starr 7/12/42
:stonk:

catlord posted:

Didn't Brooke turn those off the moment GoComics let him? I thought he had his own forums where he could ban people for any criticism of the comic.
The forum was set up by his fans. Brooke himself didn't want to see any comments on his work at all, anywhere.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

Live, laugh, kupo!

ukonvasara posted:

I think it's just presenting an amusing situation in which a comically oversized coronavirus has baited a trap with something desirable to potential victims.

Yeah, probably. I read too many political cartoons.

In this case, "any" is too many.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Slammy posted:

Trees died so it could show up right above "Blondie". In color.

9CL has always been nasty, but actually looking at it in the context of a newspaper makes it seem obscene in a way actual pornography isn't.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Zelda

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

EBB posted:

Mämmilä has been wonderful this week

I don't think I'm smart enough to enjoy that comeec. It looks really good but it sure does have a lot of details.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Parahexavoctal posted:

I'll admit I don't 100% get the joke here - is it "anyone who wasn't such a laughable coward would try to bullshit their way into the performance anyway" ?

I think the joke is that Caspar bought his ticket from a scalper, but the sign scares him out of even trying to use it -- he just tears it up and throws it away, rather than risk having to present it to the ticket taker and maybe get caught.


Walking through a NYC subway with open wounds on your bare feet is more horrifying than anything in this thread short of Chickweed.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
And She Died

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Surgeon's Tales



Nancy


Dustin


Mandrake

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Family Circus


Rose is Rose


One Big Happy


Foob


Compu-Toon


Bizarro

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003



:yikes:

How Wonderful! posted:

I don't want to out and out ban stuff on a whim because like, even Dilbert had it's defenders and people who missed it, but I would not shed any tears if 9CL just vanished. It's not breaking any rules though it's just extremely disgusting on an ontological level, so if someone wants to post it I guess they can keep posting it until they do, I don't know, a Holocaust denial arc or something.
there was a like, over-a-year-long arc about Edda's(?) grandma(?) romancing a literal nazi back in the day.

Strontium
Aug 28, 2009

Dexter didn't much care for the party.
Intelligent Life


no strip for wednesday




Daddy Daze


Take It From the Tinkersons


Dark Side of the Horse


Fort Knox

curtadams
Mar 24, 2019

How Wonderful! posted:

Dykes to Watch Out For #93 (1990)
-Alison Bechdel


This one feels really evergreen to me, not only because Mo flipping her poo poo over being called a liberal feels very timeless but because I think there's something almost universally legible to this sense of two people who should really have split up already just not willing to get to that point with themselves or each other. This feels like the build-up to a very final breakdown but believe it or not Mo and Harriet stay together for a good chunk of the comic after this-- but the sense we've already seen of their friends feeling shaky with the longevity of the relationship continues to build from here on out.

Edit: Full disclosure this one also always stings to me because I spent much of my young adult relationships and friendships being the Mo in this scenario and in hindsight I was abominable. I thought that being sure I was ideologically correct meant I could segue the urgency I felt about woeful current events into rudeness to people who didn't agree with me. Now I find it pretty easy to see Harriet's side of things-- she loves her girlfriend and you know, definitely does care about environmental and social justice, but she's being made out as the bad guy here for having less ethical rigor than Mo. It's a tense strip because honestly Bechdel has done such a good job of making both characters lovable and getting us as readers invested in their happiness. Seeing both of their personalities contribute to the fraying of that happiness is painful to see, which I think is the intent, mitigated a little by the vaudeville-esque narration. Bechdel is the best.
The fact that this feels like a final breakup but isn't is one of the reasons I suspect autobiographical leakage from Bechdel's multiple real relationships over the period.

There's a history point here. This comic came out near the nadir of liberal self-identification in the US. Self-identified liberals had outnumbered conservatives in the 60's but by 1992 conservatives outnumbered liberals by nearly 2 to 1. This was partly due to shifts in opinion when economic problems of the 70's were blamed on liberal policies, but also partly by a long-running and thorough opinion-shaping campaign by the Republicans and conservatives to demonize the term "liberal". The campaign really "took" after Dukakis' loss and by the time of the strip "liberal" was a dirty word and even liberals were looking for euphemistic ways to describe themselves. I find it amazing the opinion campaign worked so well because only 20 years before "liberal" had been a badge of honor, and it has retained its positive meaning when referring to those challenging authoritarian regimes.

That opinion campaign was so successful that in 2018 Gallup found "conservatives" outnumbered "liberals" by 35% to 26% - even though the median public opinion on specific economic issues is roughly in line with the left wing of the Democratic party, which is generally considered left of "liberal" in current political-speak. There's been a big shift in the past 2 years, though, and now "conservatives" barely outnumber "liberals", 36% to 34%. OTOH I suspect actual policy preferences have shifted left too with the coronavirus and so opinion may still be very different from self-identification.

I suspect Bechdel was aware of how "liberal" had been demonized and was doing her bit to mock the process, but I'm not sure.

Schwarzwald posted:

9CL has always been nasty, but actually looking at it in the context of a newspaper makes it seem obscene in a way actual pornography isn't.
With all the grief Pearls Before Swine has gotten for mildly risque jokes over the years, if 9CL doesn't get mass cancellations after Thorax removed a woman's panties (telepathically? prehensile genitalia?) on-panel, there is no justice in the world.

curtadams fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Aug 15, 2020

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

How Wonderful! posted:

Bechdel is the best.

:hai:


running.jpg :allears:

No seriously running is a love/hate thing. You'll hate it, up until the moment you love it. And there will still be times when you'll hate it. This comic perfectly encapsulates that.

Strontium posted:

Dark Side of the Horse


The answer is one, by the way.

Classic Kevin and Kell (February 5-9, 1996)





Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is *control*. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it.

Parahexavoctal posted:

In this The Timid Soul, more attention to detail in terms of the reflections on the polished floor. This is the first I've ever seen the term "speculator" in a context where it would mean what we today describe as "ticket scalper".

I'll admit I don't 100% get the joke here - is it "anyone who wasn't such a laughable coward would try to bullshit their way into the performance anyway" ?

(and it bothers me that he's saying "here goes $22" instead of "there goes $22")



He purchased his ticket from a scalper.

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

Zereth posted:

there was a like, over-a-year-long arc about Edda's(?) grandma(?) romancing a literal nazi back in the day.

yeah, i can't say i was paying close attention to that story because 9CL isn't my favourite avenue of self-harm, but if war crimes didn't come up much, the holocaust denial arc might have already happened without any of us noticing

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Vargo posted:

What the gently caress is that Chickweed?

The thing that really gets to me is that Chickweed could be a fun, sex-positive comic. Instead, because McEldowney is an inept creep it comes across as off-putting, creepy and offensive.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


Yeah, Bechdel's stuff is pretty goddamn great.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Slammy posted:

Trees died so it could show up right above "Blondie". In color.


How much trouble was it for you to make this? Did you just take a picture with your phone and move it over to imgur? Because my immediate thought upon seeing this was that this was a crazy efficient way to post mid-tier comics most people wouldn't want to go to the trouble of hosting individually, and a surprisingly high number of them provoked in-thread discussion.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Slammy posted:

Wee Pals (June, 1972)



This is a wonderfully incisive commentary on white allyship. Morrie was the best.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Chickweed is gross but so is Mr Boop and y'all drool non-stop over that poo poo.

Dykes is so good.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
While acknowledging that irony can be a shield for reprehensible behavior, do you really consider 9CWL and Mr. Boop to be comparable?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

They both consist almost entirely of sex jokes. They are admittedly very different kinds of sex jokes, and the art in Mr. Boop doesn't make me feel physically ill the way 9 Chickweed Lane does, but it's a reasonable comparison.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Arlo and Janis



Tina's Groove Classic (December 30, 2008)



Arlo and Janis Classic (December 30, 1998)



Garfield Classic (December 30, 1988)

TampaTango
Apr 12, 2007

COMICS CRIMINAL

Elysiume posted:

While acknowledging that irony can be a shield for reprehensible behavior, do you really consider 9CWL and Mr. Boop to be comparable?

This should be a survey of the ridiculous and the sublime. I enjoy the early 20th century postings, but terrible comics have a place here as an example of how bad it can be. I hate 9CW as much as Luann.
I am confused, parties drop and not a stalk of celery in sight?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Mr. Boop also isn't published in newspapers as if it's nominally geared towards general audiences.

Edit:

TampaTango posted:

I am confused, parties drop and not a stalk of celery in sight?

Its implied that Thorax used his celery to make her panties drop.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Mr. Boop is also a case of an author starting with a ridiculous concept and seeing how far he can take it, while the Chickweed author thinks he's writing Literature.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Chickweed is pornographic, pretentious, and often full of horrible political stances. Mr Boop is pornographic, tongue in cheek, and remarkably life affirming.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Vargo posted:

What the gently caress is that Chickweed?

it is not the Foxy Grandpa content I come to this thread for

Slammy
Mar 30, 2011

Great speech.
PPHPFT!!

Some Guy TT posted:

How much trouble was it for you to make this? Did you just take a picture with your phone and move it over to imgur? Because my immediate thought upon seeing this was that this was a crazy efficient way to post mid-tier comics most people wouldn't want to go to the trouble of hosting individually, and a surprisingly high number of them provoked in-thread discussion.

The LA Times puts up a PDF here. But after a certain number of page views they ask you to login with a subscription. Many papers have this option, so if anyone has a subscription to one it'd be relatively easy to pull the comics.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

9 Chickweed Lane



Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



"This is one problem you can't threesome your way out of."

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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Rhymes with Orange



Get Fuzzy 8/14/00



Stephen Catlins



Brenda Starr 7/26/42



The 1942 equivalent of browsing the store and then buying everything on Amazon.



Smokey Stover 2/28/37





Edge of Zzzzz



Lucinde finally passes out from Sam's nonstop monologuing, being sure to display her tits attractively as she does so.

Bonus Ads! Big Yank clothes! Do your clothes not fit properly? Give 'em a Big Yank!





"Cradle crotch" sounds like a particularly unpleasant infection.

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