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Women and Children First wasn’t really as much of a thing as movies and whatnot would have us believe. Also dang that’s an extremely comprehensible B30YTS.
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Green Intern posted:I mean yeah that’s kinda what Isopaljo and his cronies are doing. They care more about the land ownership and Business For Business’ Sake, because both of those equal money, power, and influence. That last sentence was intended to be sarcasm-slash-naivete.
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EasyEW posted:Dok's "They Call Him 'Kid', But He Might As Well Be Named Mark" Duck (March 30, 1913) Usually I can figure out the slang but what the heck are they talking about here?
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EBB posted:Usually I can figure out the slang but what the heck are they talking about here? Jerry set the Kid up to think six feet deep, not six feet across. Or did something else cross you up?
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I'm in love with the phrase "You can't tell me this awful calm has no meaning" and also the wonky legs coming around the corner.
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EasyEW posted:Jerry set the Kid up to think six feet deep, not six feet across. Oh, is this a dustbowl thing like sand coming in? That makes more sense now. Also this called out to me: 
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Dykes to Watch Out For #94 (1990) I'm very interested in the process curtadams described in his post where "liberal" became used as a pejorative counterpoint to a more progressive or radical form of leftism. I imagine it has a long history and even in the 60s and 70s you see hints of what "liberal" denotes to many people in 2020 through terms like "limousine liberal" or the associated "champagne socialist." I feel like I should know more about this etymologically but sadly I don't. I would guess that it had some connection to the rise of "neoliberalism" and the increasing association of "socially liberal" platforms with a full-throated embrace of global capitalism. I dunno though. I think of the 1966 Phil Ochs song "Love Me, I'm A Liberal," which pretty clearly demarcates the line between a leftist committed to systemic change and someone making abstract evaluations from a position of comfort and it feels like it could have come out of 2020 C-Spam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nFvhhCulaw I think it's striking through that it strikes this much of a nerve in Mo-- the implication is that there are very few worse things to call her and I don't think such a visceral response, especially framed here, as culturally legible if nothing else, is coming from a vacuum. I mean obviously there's a ton of other stuff going on here and bubbling to the surface but I think the root of the conflict comes down to what it almost always is for Mo-- how much of a commitment to queerness is tied in with political praxis, and how much room there can be for pleasure and material comfort within that commitment. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Aug 15, 2020 |
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Bruceski posted:That last sentence was intended to be sarcasm-slash-naivete. No no no, let me explain it again. (Tone is sometimes hard in text)
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Question I may regret asking: Didn't Thorax used to have a thing with a lady vet? What happened to her?
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EasyEW posted:Thimble Theater (March 17, 1937) EasyEW posted:Out Our Way (January 7-9, 1935) 
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How Wonderful! posted:Dykes to Watch Out For #94 (1990) From my experience in the 90s, the use of "liberal" as an insult rather than a description was the work of the Gingriches and Limbaughs on the right, not any fissures on the left -- same as "politically correct."
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Drimble Wedge posted:I'm in love with the phrase "You can't tell me this awful calm has no meaning" and also the wonky legs coming around the corner. The art in Dok's Duck is absolutely fantastic, and the jokes are usually corny enough for a good chuckle. It's one of my favourites in this thread.
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Ardeem posted:Question I may regret asking: Lady Vet has a thing with Thorax's SON.
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Johnny Walker posted:Pretty sure that's the same one as yesterday, not that it matters since this is nearly 90 years old anyways. Just one of those cross-eyed days, I guess... 
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EasyEW posted:Out Our Way (January 7-9, 1935) These are great for very different reasons. Conan the Barbarian Jul. 14th- 20th, 1980       
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EasyEW posted:Funky Winkerbean continues to operate under disaster movie rules.
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catlord posted:Conan the Barbarian Jul. 14th- 20th, 1980 I like how smoothly he becomes Conan the Relationship Counselor.
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Selachian posted:From my experience in the 90s, the use of "liberal" as an insult rather than a description was the work of the Gingriches and Limbaughs on the right, not any fissures on the left -- same as "politically correct." There’s this book called the Strawberry Statement, which was basically journal entries by a member of the Students for a democratic Society at Columbia University in 1968, and he definitely self identifies as a radical with a distaste for “liberals.”
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Bruceski posted:Thinking about it, I think what makes Mammila difficult to track for me is that there are enough jumps that it's easy to get confused whether things just weren't shown on-camera or aren't actually there. Until the freakout in this strip about the "next job" I thought that had all been done off-screen because clearly someone wouldn't build a new industrial direction without lining up clients, right? I don't want to be too critical, because we're all amateurs here, and I've found Koivisto's comics to be sometimes hard to follow even in Finnish, but I feel like the translation is sometimes following the original text a bit too closely (I haven't seen the original text, but the structures seem to follow the Finnish conventions that make them feel somewhat unnatural and hard to parse). In my opinion, the translator's main job is to deliver the message and that's why I often butcher entire sentences trying to make the content understandable to the dirty foreigners. That said, LazyQ, you're generally doing a great job and I don't want to downplay your efforts, just trying to make it a bit better. Also, I want to blame the translator whenever I'm confused. That said, if anyone has trouble to understand my translations with Surgeon's Tales, please notify me. I've followed the story very closely and also reading the book, so my comprehension of the events is much clearer than an average reader's and there might be some things that aren't as easy to follow as I thought. And I have to admit that sometimes I legitimately don't comprehend what the author is trying to say, and end up with a literal translation. Bonus I'm quite drunk now, took like an hour to write this message. 
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Yeah the Yippies and SDS started to use 'liberal' as a pejorative for anyone who claimed to be left wing but wasn't fighting for the permanent revolution.
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Never forget:  The way Mary is drawn over the past few strips makes her look like she's high as gently caress, or she's turned into a Stepford wife. Seriously, she looks so unsettling. This weasel is terrible. All this time, she's been reacting like she's never even considered that people don't need to kill each other. Or she's being insulting to the people who saved her by being so shocked that different races can be friends or lovers. Bechdel has done a great job setting up Mo and Harriet's relationship that you care what happens to them. It really captures the feeling of being friends with a couple and going "Wait, why are they breaking up? They were so good together!  "
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curtadams posted:First, Mr. Boop is lampshading the heck out of itself. Yeah, i'm embarrassed to admit it now but i used to enjoy 9CL - but it did really used to be different. It wasn't non-stop creepiness, and wasn't so obviously author self-insert of "look what a good sexy sex-haver i am". And the Mr. Boop is clearly satire of poor self-insert fiction (there's an old literary term for it, can't remember what it is...), and was done as kind of a goof that to the author's surprise people thought was entertaining. Someone else mentioned this, but it reads really well if you go to the website and read it start to finish. there's even a game you can play!
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EasyEW posted:How To Read 9 Chickweed Lane And He Did. (May, 1917)  Outbursts of Everett True (July, 1917)  Hitz and Mrs. (April, 1923)  They'll Do It Every Time (January, 1941)  Feiffer (1976)  Wee Pals (June, 1972) 
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The Timid Soul. Presumably Caspar's marriage was an arranged one.
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How Wonderful! posted:Dykes to Watch Out For #94 (1990) “Liberal” as a pejorative in the sense of “you’re too far left” has been used by conservatives since the origins of liberalism in the mid-18th century. “Liberal” as a pejorative in the sense of “you’re not left enough” has been used by socialists and such since the spread of socialism as a mass movement in the mid-19th century. What is amazing about the late-20th century demonization of the word was getting people who actually hold liberal views to call themselves “conservative” and to use “liberal” in the conservative sense, against people they broadly agree with but who are a little bit to their left. This is how Harriett uses it. Harriett herself is a standard American liberal. She supports fair wages, fair housing, civil rights, elections, etc., but doesn’t support communes and wants a house with a white picket fence. Straight-up New Deal/Great Society stuff. But when Mo puts an ultimatum on her to act a little more left than she wants, and Harriett and Mo have an argument, and she’s looking for the worst, most insulting word she can think of, she picks “LIBERAL” - the very word that describes herself! That is the amazing accomplishment of the conservative anti-liberal propaganda. (Obviously Harriet is not using it the socialist “you’re not left enough” sense - conservatives weren’t and aren’t the ones pushing for recycling.) The line that best describes all this is delivered by Lois in a strip about a year ahead of this - “You have to admire their technique!” (one of my favorite lines ever). It’s evil; it’s been very destructive to our society by disrupting support for liberal policies; but drat, the bad guys do have some skill. On the use of “liberal” in the socialist sense, that faded from American politics because the New Deal and Great Society projects were not just “liberal” in the old 19th-century sense but included a lot of socialist policies as well, like Social Security and Medicare, although with a little bit of pseudo-insurance window dressing to pretend they weren’t socialist (because socialism=bad, blahblahblah). So in American society the meaning of the word “liberal” broadened to include most people supporting democratic socialist policies as well. Combined with the pogroms against Communists, there was only a fringe of people remaining who might use it in the “you’re not left enough” sense. (In the rest of the world it retains its old sense of excluding people who often favor socialist policies.) That usage has revived because the demonization of “liberal” was so complete that people holding liberal views (in the US sense) scattered for other terms, including “neoliberal”, “progressive”, and “democratic socialist”. To some extent the meaning has drifted back to its pre-FDR sense of excluding socialists, and to some extent even people bitterly opposed to conservatives still get affected by the “liberal=bad” propaganda, so the “you’re not left enough” usage has revived, although IMO often tactically ill-advised. (The Montagnards didn’t start offing the Girondists until *after* Louis XVI was dead. Learn your revolutionary history, folks!)
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I went and made the pullapitko bread: I've never had it before so I have no clue if I made it right but it's not bad! It's lightly sweet with a hint of cardamom giving it a unique flavor I'd never tasted before. I'd definitely recommend trying it if you see it in a bakery or something (or are a masochist like me and don't mind wasting half a day on this poo poo.) Now I just need to figure out what to do with 3 whole loaves of this stuff...
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Slammy posted:They'll Do It Every Time (January, 1941) So, ballpark $2000 in today's money? That seems ... pretty reasonable for a decade's worth of rubbish removal, though maybe I have been influenced by rising land prices. Dumping an average of 20 tons of scrap a year makes me wonder what sort of bomb shelter or rape dungeon he was digging out, though.
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Evil Mastermind posted:There is not a gently caress YOU in the multiverse big enough for that Chickweed strip. But loving is what the whole strip is about. That and anthropomorphized lampreys. Anthropomorphized lampreys loving. Ardeem posted:Question I may regret asking: I think that was a different slab of beef. It had blonde hair and that story had something to do with a cow
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Prince Valiant Vargo's Comics Breaking Cat News  Phoebe and her Unicorn  Wallace the Brave  readingatwork posted:I went and made the pullapitko bread: Me too!  I followed the recipe here. For some reason I couldn't find sliced almonds or pearl sugar, so I used slivered almonds and some demerara sugar on top. I have no reference for how it should taste, but it seems to have turned out pretty good.
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readingatwork posted:I went and made the pullapitko bread: Ah, that looks excellent! You got the braids down really well.  And yeah, cardamom is a really big part of the flavour. Great work! Pouring some... nib sugar, is it? on top is fairly common and turns into more of a sweet dessert. Thanks for the pics!
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Medenmath posted:Prince Valiant God, I hope the "command decision" is the Saxon leader pausing, staring for a moment, then silently climbing back down the way he came. Also, look at those last two panels. The pullapitko looks good too, both of you!
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