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I don't like K&K but it's more of a horror-read than a flat out hate-read, even if the horror of K&K does not seem to be at all intentional. His other works are straight trash though.
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Parahexavoctal posted:In this installment of The Timid Soul, Caspar is mistaken for someone wearing a zoot suit, which were made illegal during the war, purportedly due to their excessive use of fabric. They were beating the poo poo of of wearers: https://www.dailynews.com/2018/06/01/75-years-ago-zoot-suit-riots-marked-a-dark-period-in-southern-california-history/
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Crabgrass Support Tauhid's Patreon here. Old School Peanuts (Mar 23, 1952)  Calvin and Hobbes ()   drat, he called it good. Robbie and Bobby (Dec 21, 2016)  (Nov 2, 2020)  Support Jason's Patreon here.
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And He Dead! (August 30, 1917) Outbursts of Everett True (November 15, 1917)  Timely. Hitz and Mrs. (July 24, 1923)  Gay and Her Gang (November 16, 1928)  Dark Laughter (August 14, 1937, click for big)  “Good Lord o’ Mercy, Brother Bootsie sho’ is practicin’ up hard fer that there Amsterdam News Water Derby on the 28th!” The Amsterdam News, founded in 1909, is one of the oldest and most respected African American newspapers in the United States. In 1935 the city editor discovered Harrington and put him on staff. He created Dark Laughter there. I couldn’t easily find information on their Water Derby in 1937. They'll Do It Every Time (May 1, 1941)  Patty-Jo ’n’ Ginger (July 3, 1948)  “Oooo-oo … Siren stuff! Think I’ll tell the folks it’s called “Buy Me!” Twin Earths (July 28 - August 2, 1952)       Dinky Fellas (December 28, 1964) 
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Vintage Valiant (Jan. 18, 1942)  That last panel! Also, fair warning: we are two days away from Val and friends meeting some of the locals down here in sub-Saharan Africa. My opinion is that Foster's depiction of these folks isn't nearly as hostile as some of the racist imagery we've seen in other comics of this era, but they are still uncomfortable stereotypes of black guys in grass skirts. I don't know anything about the pre-Mali/Songhai material culture of the Gambia or wherever this is meant to be taking place, so I have no idea if the village depicted is at all realistic. I get the impression that Foster was the kind of guy who would have done some research, but I also expect he wouldn't have cared as much for accuracy regarding this region. If anyone feels those strips should be linked or spoiler-tagged, let me know.
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They're (probably) far too early for the Ghana empire and contempories to be in full swing.
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goatface posted:They're (probably) far too early for the Ghana empire and contempories to be in full swing. I'm not sure if the strip that had Jerusalem filled with Muslims a century before the birth of Mohammed would worry too much about a detail like that.
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Professor Wayne fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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F Minus  More low-key social commentary. Mark Trail  Does Mark live in an Alpine village? Mary Worth  The Phantom  Pooch Cafe  Rex Morgan MD  Apartment 3-G  Two days and no Andertoons update and no explanation. It's one of my favorite strips so I'm a little concerned.
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Manuel Calavera posted:One Big Happy  Modesty Blaise  
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If you like Pina coladas - Getting lost in the rain. Holbrook seems like a decent guy, but there is (almost?) nobody who can write a quality daily gag strip for decades. He's writing and drawing THREE. It's inevitable that the jokes will be lame, the plots nonsense, and consequences unexamined.
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Johnny Walker posted:Mark Trail I actually just saw a tweet about this, hold on... https://twitter.com/teaberryblue/status/1323138448635678722 (click for full thread)
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Just to make sure I'm up to speed on Mämmilä: Heimo and Anja have a kid now, but the big guy who likes cats (Sulo?) and his wife lost theirs? Or did they have a child as well?
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Bruceski posted:I actually just saw a tweet about this, hold on... Isn't living in a national park explicitly illegal? I feel like there was a sign when I last went to one explaining that. (You know to punish homeless people for wanting a place to camp)
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ikanreed posted:Isn't living in a national park explicitly illegal? I feel like there was a sign when I last went to one explaining that. She doesn't mention the details, just that there are a lot of restrictions. It's illegal to camp indefinitely (I think the limit is generally two weeks) but there are workers who live in the parks as well as inholdings, private property that was owned before the park was formed. Probably other arrangements as well. Now that I think about it, my uncle used to own some land around what I believe was national forest and was logging in those areas for longer. I think I'll drop him an email and see if he knows anything relevant, national forests and national parks aren't the same but he might have info.
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Does anyone remember who used to post World's Saddest Bear, The Bear Who Is Always Sad? I need to get a collection of some of those.
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curtadams posted:Holbrook seems like a decent guy, but there is (almost?) nobody who can write a quality daily gag strip for decades. He's writing and drawing THREE. It's inevitable that the jokes will be lame, the plots nonsense, and consequences unexamined. Swinging for quantity over quality and trying very hard not to get bogged down in overthinking feels to me very much like a permanent NaNoWriMo mindset minus the wordcount metric. That apparently works for Holbrook, and good on him for finding a way to constantly be writing cause that part clearly makes him happy, but I would find that completely exhausting. But Holbrook is also the kind of writer who keeps from overthinking so many aspects of worldbuilding and plotting that he ends up not really thinking it over at all, except when he really really really needs to explain just exactly how some little arcane aspect of it works. And drat that's exhausting, too. I do have to say I am impressed that even though we're giving him poo poo for blank and boring backgrounds for supposedly cool and exciting spacecraft, and that maybe he's not putting as much detail into things as he was in the early K&K, he still is trying to remain consistent as he can with the artwork and when you're doing, what? 20 strips a week? for how many years? that's a hell of a task. I just wish the writing was less terrible.
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Dykes to Watch Out For #113 (1991) Sadly for many of Sparrow's news headlines there are several possibilities to choose from. The "national victory celebration" for returning Gulf War soldiers (and Gulf War weapons hardware) was on June 8th, 1991 and cost $12 million dollars so I guess this places this strip in the spring. Trying to pin down the rest of the stuff depressed me too much so I gave up. Feel free to do it yourself but leave me out of it buddy. Not today. Sam's Strip (3/7/1962)  A motley crew in the tub. You've got Donald Duck, Popeye, Beetle Bailey (created by Sam's Strip letterer and co-writer Mort Walker), Snuffy Smith, and, once again, Jiggs from Bringing Up Father.
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Vargo posted:Does anyone remember who used to post World's Saddest Bear, The Bear Who Is Always Sad? I need to get a collection of some of those. but you can always buy the book! https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B08L3F911G/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0
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Sally Forth Pearls Before Swine  Skippy (May 1, 1933)  Peanuts (November 5, 1973)  Funky-rear end Civics-lessonbean  Crankshaft  9 Chickweed Lane, in which wow, what a jaw-dropping surprise, Amos's art style is an exact match to Brooke McEldowney's.  Rip Haywire  Thimble Theater (June 3, 1937)  Out Our Way (June 27-30, 1935)    Dok's Temperance Society Duck (May 1, 1913) 
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The problem with older Kevin and Kell is that we've seen the modern version where the metaphors have been used and stretched thin. It's like Crankshaft and Funky Winkerbean, in a way. Crankshaft is Batiuk's attempt to have his cake and eat it too, where he shoved all the silly stuff. But it's hard to like Crankshaft in part because we've seen his future in FW, and it's grim. Once you see Crankshaft hooked up to oxygen and an IV being pushed around a hospital by a nurse and unable to speak, it makes it a little hard to find humour in his malapropisms when you can only conclude that they're an early sign of dementia. Similarly, with Kevin and Kell, their society is a nightmarish hellworld, but when it's played for laughs it's not an issue as in the early stuff. But since we've seen that same society treated seriously, it's really hard to go back to treating it as a joke. Comedy and Drama might be a scale, but it's much easier to go Comedy to Drama than to try and pull it back from Drama to Comedy. If you can partition off your knowledge of future events, original Kevin and Kell is an ok comic. I won't say it's good, but there's certainly worse out there. Honestly, I'm kinda curious about early Safe Havens, because what I see now is baffling. As for Holbrook in general, I've said before I think his heart's in the right place, but he's also a dumbass and having three comics running almost every day, while impressive in a way, is probably keeping him from putting any more thought into his work then he currently does.
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EasyEW posted:Dok's Temperance Society Duck (May 1, 1913)  re: Holbrook, I think he could mash Safe Havens and Fastrack into one strip and nobody would notice or care. I may be biased because I can't remember which plot beat happened in which one half the time.
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How Wonderful! posted:Dykes to Watch Out For #113 (1991)
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curtadams posted:I don't think the headlines are about specific incidents so much as the total obsession of local media with reporting crimes. It was even worse then because there was so much more crime than there is now. What city is DTWOF set in if any?
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EasyEW posted:
Love having POC characters telling the white male lead he's so good at promoting inclusiveness.
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Really interested in all of the Holbrook comments. I guess I just think he's a well-meaning man who has never really thought through the implications or consequences of any of his ideas. The Lockhorns  Brewster Rockit Space Guy  On The Fastrack  Safe Havens  Kevin & Kell  Mother Goose & Grimm  Hagar The Horrible  Sherman's Lagoon  Ella Cinders  Zorro with have to wait until tomorrow since I don't have access to my scanner right now and I forgot to do this week's scans yesterday. I'm sure everyone is crushed.
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Kavak posted:What city is DTWOF set in if any? Good question. I don't think it's any particular city, but somewhere on the East Coast I think where people can comfortably drive back and forth to like, upstate New York and I believe when they go to the beach it's at a lake since you can see a city on the other shore. For some reason for years I assumed it took place in Burlington, VT, but that was misinformation and possibly just getting confused by Bechdel living in good old Chittenden County. My wife who grew up reading it in Seven Days has just hazarded "somewhere kind of based on Syracuse or Albany or Ithaca," while another review I saw just now floated Minneapolis. Part of her reasoning is that Route 92, which we can see in one of the maps in the little TPBs, runs straight through Syracus. FWIW later the school Ginger teaches at is referred to as "Buffalo Lake," which I don't know, but Buffalo State is a SUNY campus. So who knows! There's a map of the town in the Essential which I'll go grab in a second, because it's pretty interesting one way or the other. Edit: Here we go. I'll throw this under spoiler tags since it has some pretty minor spoilers about comics from 25 years ago, but I think the story does have some fun twists and surprises. 
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How Wonderful! posted:Good question. I don't think it's any particular city, but somewhere on the East Coast I think where people can comfortably drive back and forth to like, upstate New York and I believe when they go to the beach it's at a lake since you can see a city on the other shore. For some reason for years I assumed it took place in Burlington, VT, but that was misinformation and possibly just getting confused by Bechdel living in good old Chittenden County. My wife who grew up reading it in Seven Days has just hazarded "somewhere kind of based on Syracuse or Albany or Ithaca," while another review I saw just now floated Minneapolis. Part of her reasoning is that Route 92, which we can see in one of the maps in the little TPBs, runs straight through Syracus. FWIW later the school Ginger teaches at is referred to as "Buffalo Lake," which I don't know, but Buffalo State is a SUNY campus. So who knows! For some reason I thought it was NYC, either Greenwich Village or the Lower East Side before it became gentrified.
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The Dinette Set aims high. Working Daze finishes doing old strips to do an old joke.  Super-Fun-Pak Comix can't prove he wouldn't.  Cul De Sac will make do. 
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