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Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone





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Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010




Kuros posted:

Any good yaoi manga without dudes who could palm an extra large yoga ball?

BL Thread

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

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I think the idea of the split was one was supposed to be more of the male-targeted generally ecchi fanservicey stuff and the other was more female targeted romantic stuff, but the problem is that nobody was sure which was which.

It was weird, at any rate.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

there was this weird vague idea of stuff being more or less yuri and the western fandom decided this deserved a separation with a distinct genre, called "shoujo ai", and nobody was aware enough of the japanese side to understand that shoujo ai is a term that reads extremely differently and more weirdly to jp fans and also is completely fake and virtually all of what it applies to on sites would be called yuri anywhere else if there wasn't a weird early western perception of yuri being porn and a weird late 2000s-2010s perception of some yuri not being yuri enough

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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there is a lot of weird stuff tied up to it too with like the jp side where there are certain expectations tied to yuri where authors who are very much writing stories about lesbians shy away from the term

the split on the western side was always bad and kinda played into weird purity poo poo or dismissing subtextual stuff as not "real lesbian romance" so you hit it with the other label.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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the point is never trust anyone who would disagree with you that picnic at hanging rock is very gay

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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im not talking about the tv remake

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.



Okay, figured my question would fall under this thread as well, but I'll go take a look.

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Snooze Cruise posted:

there is a lot of weird stuff tied up to it too with like the jp side where there are certain expectations tied to yuri where authors who are very much writing stories about lesbians shy away from the term

the split on the western side was always bad and kinda played into weird purity poo poo or dismissing subtextual stuff as not "real lesbian romance" so you hit it with the other label.

Oh yeah, I remember Bloom Into You or a similar prolific series where the author said in an interview it wasn't yuri coming up at some point.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

nettaigyo. though that was a more specific situation than some others since the author was more like "it's not wrong to read their relationship that way but i don't specifically consider it yuri"

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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the runaway with me girl mangaka also said stuff about it

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



Kuros posted:

Okay, figured my question would fall under this thread as well, but I'll go take a look.

in theory it would, but i think bl having its own thread has siphoned that interest and posting to there

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i just don't read much of it, like there is the one with the misanthrope lawyer(?) guy who cooks food for his boyfriend, i remember liking that one, and i like what i read of jealously by scarlet lastname

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010




Kuros posted:

Okay, figured my question would fall under this thread as well, but I'll go take a look.

It does but that thread would get you better luck lol

This thread is a bit more lesbian and trans focused most of the time lol

also more romance focused vs smutty

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010




i bought the first volume of jealousy months ago and i have yet to read it.


I have 5 more volumes of manga in the mail.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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at what level is something smut? like i would label sweet guilty love bites as smut and i feel like there is plenty of stuff that gets posted in here that is on that level :thinking_emoji:

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




This thread hasnít been trans focused in what feels like a year :smith:

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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but, the previous page started with one...

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Jul 17, 2021

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.


Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

It does but that thread would get you better luck lol

This thread is a bit more lesbian and trans focused most of the time lol

also more romance focused vs smutty

Well I am looking for something more slice of life and not smutty, maybe the other thread. Thanks though.

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008
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Can't post for 3 days!


every lesbian manga is trans now

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




Snooze Cruise posted:

but, the previous page started with one...

That was like one or two posts :mad:

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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have you read the fun messy problematic stuff like yuureitou or himegoto juukyuusai no seifuku yet? also while i say fun like, they got some heavy content warnings.

speaking of problematic stuff i kinda want to do a reread of stop hibari-kun

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Pollyanna posted:

This thread hasnít been trans focused in what feels like a year :smith:

If you have any suggestions feel free to lay 'em out, but I think the case is just that after going through the filter of of getting scanned, getting translated, then stuff that's actually any good there isn't a lot to talk about.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

the most recent trans manga i read was sunu sumu muriku and i don't want to flood the thread with my complaining about how nonsensical it is

Homora Gaykemi
Apr 30, 2020

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Snooze Cruise posted:

speaking of problematic stuff i kinda want to do a reread of stop hibari-kun

i'd been meaning to go and read that after someone posted the interview where the mangaka said the eggiest poo poo here but things tend to just end up on my pile and never leave there

e: not even eggy, just straight up "i draw women because i wish i was born a girl"

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Shape Shift With Me


obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PuBb6AIbCs

Tir McDohl
May 4, 2004



Homora Gaykemi posted:

i'd been meaning to go and read that after someone posted the interview where the mangaka said the eggiest poo poo here but things tend to just end up on my pile and never leave there

e: not even eggy, just straight up "i draw women because i wish i was born a girl"

https://twitter.com/rudycomics/status/1264743511586308096

so loving depressing

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



i propose we ban the term 'egg'

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i think its a bad term and i like to complain about it but i think banning it would be lame and keep people out of the thread

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




itís overused and Iím sick of it

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i remember when i told my mommy im trans and she ended up buying a lot of books off of amazon and one of them had really bad poetry near the ending and a lot of it was butterfly/cocoon metaphors. i thought that was bad. but the egg thing also makes me imagine like gooey egg yolk and stuff on top of that.

CYBEReris
Dec 15, 2007



smash the world's shell, for the Revolution of the World

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009


Pollyanna posted:

itís overused and Iím sick of it

Wonder Egg Priority has ruined the egg-as-trans-metaphor forevermore.

Yuu Morisawa
Oct 4, 2013


Yuu Morisawa
Oct 4, 2013


ConanThe3rd posted:

Wonder Egg Priority has ruined the egg-as-trans-metaphor forevermore.

Is WEP bad?

I've heard some "interesting" things about the plot.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



there's some good bits in the first few eps and the character dynamics stay strong throughout but it devotes way too much airtime to a weird meta scifi plot that goes nowhere and it goes from thoughtful exploration of social issues to shock value exploitation pretty quick. and the last ep is garbage

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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it seems very love it or hate it. i'll probably never get around to it, there has been other gay stuff recently that looks more interesting to me so its a low priority.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 17, 2021

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



it feels like a hard sell if you weren't already on the train of watching it weekly, since we've now seen how it just makes new loose ends as it goes along without satisfyingly tying any up by the end

from the lens of it being a troubled production it is still something i mostly like and find interesting and that's about the only angle i can see recommending it from

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dogsicle posted:

from the lens of it being a troubled production it is still something i mostly like and find interesting and that's about the only angle i can see recommending it from

What happened with it? I have strong feelings about WEP but I'm still not sure what they are. :v:

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