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C-Euro posted:I've never actually seen the Lynch Dune. Is it streaming anywhere? Sadly you just missed Amazon Prime streaming it. They pulled it very recently and now only have the digital version for sale.
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Last time I watched it I noticed that the Atreidies pug survives the attack on Arrakeen since he makes an appearance in the last scene and thought that was awesome. But I just came across this video which compiles all the pug appearances in the movie and I can't believe I never noticed the pug in the scene where Gurney is carrying him. This makes my theory that the pug was rescued by Yueh and stowed with the ducal ring and the stillsuits canon.
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Jan 22, 2020 12:06
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God that movie has so much personality, even though I recognize it's kind of a poo poo adaptation, it really should not have as bad a reputation as it does, it's so loving entertaining.
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Jan 22, 2020 13:56
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It looks rad as hell and has great atmosphere, but basically every change from the book made it worse, and I really didn't care for how gratuitously disgusting it was in places.
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Jan 22, 2020 14:23
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I kinda enjoy how comically over the top evil it makes the harkonnens, rabban's little sippy cup that crushes small animals so he can drink their blood is one of the most ridiculous props ever.
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Jan 22, 2020 14:53
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I could’ve done without the heart plugs, the cat milking machine, and the Baron spitting on Jessica’s face 
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Jan 22, 2020 15:01
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Roman Reigns posted:I could’ve done without the heart plugs, the cat milking machine, and the Baron spitting on Jessica’s face You mean most impactful formative elements of my childhood?
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Jan 22, 2020 15:41
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The draining of the Baron’s face pustules was mine.
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Jan 22, 2020 17:35
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Neo Rasa posted:The best part is how as they leave they all sort of turn around in unison as if they're all going to bow or otherwise acknowledge the emperor in some way but then they just turn around and continue to leave. It's such a great half-assed like, way to acknowledge the emperor while insulting him at the same time. I dunno, it makes sense, CHOAM are the ones that truly hold the power in the universe since their Navigators are the only ones that can fold space. They are pretty curt to the emperor every time they see him and it makes sense, he has one job, make sure the spice keeps flowing
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Jan 22, 2020 17:50
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Aces High posted:I dunno, it makes sense, CHOAM are the ones that truly hold the power in the universe since their Navigators are the only ones that can fold space. They are pretty curt to the emperor every time they see him and it makes sense, he has one job, make sure the spice keeps flowing Actually the Spacing Guild that controls the Navigators is separate from CHOAM.
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Jan 22, 2020 17:58
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In a post-Epstein world, the Baron makes sense to me.
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Jan 22, 2020 18:09
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sean10mm posted:Actually the Spacing Guild that controls the Navigators is separate from CHOAM. looks like I need to brush up on the lore again, I don't mind reading a favourite book another time
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Jan 22, 2020 18:42
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Roman Reigns posted:I could’ve done without the heart plugs, the cat milking machine, and the Baron spitting on Jessica’s face I will never not love that they just taped a rat to a cat
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Jan 22, 2020 18:49
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davidspackage posted:I will never not love that they just taped a rat to a cat This is one of my favorite scenes of the movie.
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Jan 22, 2020 19:08
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I desperately want the Hawat action figure that came with the cat milking machine as an accessory. What a wonderfully disturbing toy.
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Jan 22, 2020 19:29
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Is Lynchs Dune a bad movie or just a bad adaptation?
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Jan 22, 2020 19:32
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Ive always wondered - in the Dune 2 PC game, was any of that stuff from the books? Like does House Ordos exist? It's been my only real source of stuff. Or was it all just made up crap?
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Jan 22, 2020 19:40
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Not sure about Dune 2 but I know the sequel Emperor Battle for Dune had little things from the books like the CHOAM company but overall it’s made up or non canon or whathaveyou. The games were based on the Lynch movie more than anything else. Although Emperor says the games take place thousands of years before the actual Dune story begins, it’s basically fan fiction at this point. House Ordos is first mentioned I think in the Dune Encyclopedia, but even that’s considered non canon. Everything else about them is made up by the game developers. Roman Reigns fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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Jan 22, 2020 19:52
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sponges posted:Is Lynchs Dune a bad movie or just a bad adaptation? Its both a bad movie and a bad adaptation.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:30
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^^^ efb  sponges posted:Is Lynchs Dune a bad movie or just a bad adaptation? Kind of both? It's realistically 4-6 hours of story stuffed into just over 2 hours in the theatrical cut. Going in blind almost everybody seems to immediately go , especially because it still includes digressions that aren't vital to the plot (both from the book and made up by Lynch.)I don't want to come across as too negative about it though, it's full of weird poo poo that's just kind of fun to see. But it's not uh "good" in the normal sense.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:32
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It's probably the least good David Lynch movie, but that still means it's incredibly watchable and weird anyway, so it's still worth a couple of hours of your time.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:42
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I only saw the Lynch movie once when I was about 9, and everything I remember about it feels like something from a fever dream.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:54
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Lord Hydronium posted:I only saw the Lynch movie once when I was about 9, and everything I remember about it feels like something from a fever dream. Same, honestly. It was late at night on a random tv channel, I was probably about 10-11, and it was just so weird I kept watching
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Jan 22, 2020 20:56
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lynch's dune is unquestionably a disaster but its also insanely close to being a masterpiece.
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Jan 22, 2020 21:00
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:lynch's dune is unquestionably a disaster but its also insanely close to being a masterpiece. The Count Fenring of movies
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Jan 22, 2020 21:04
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RBA Starblade posted:The Count Fenring of movies Hmmmmmm.
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Jan 22, 2020 21:10
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RBA Starblade posted:The Count Fenring of movies Harsh, but fair.
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Jan 22, 2020 21:29
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:lynch's dune is unquestionably a disaster but its also insanely close to being a masterpiece. Couldn't have said it better.
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Jan 22, 2020 21:35
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Roman Reigns posted:House Ordos is first mentioned I think in the Dune Encyclopedia, but even that’s considered non canon. Everything else about them is made up by the game developers. Dune Encyclopedia was written in correspondence with Frank Hebert. The only reason it's not canon is Brian Hebert prevailed on its author to pronounce it not canon after Frank's death. So he could desecrate his father's corpse more efficiently.
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Jan 22, 2020 21:42
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Geez that blows 
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Jan 22, 2020 22:40
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MonsieurChoc posted:That's probably my favourite scene in the books and I want it so bad. While I'm doing PYF Little Moments in Dune, I really want the scenes of Jamis' wife and kids being weirdly okay with his death. Yeah, it sucks, dude shouldn't have picked a fight, why would they blame Paul? Such a great nugget of Fremen psychology.
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Jan 23, 2020 00:26
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Lynch’s Dune is very flawed but also pretty great. Plot wise there’s a lot of awkward exposition and overexplaining, but the atmosphere and the sense of power Lynch creates is something that had never really been in a sci fi movie before. Visually and aurally it’s a work of art. The performances are great too- the Baron isn’t like the subtle schemer of the book but he’s a perfect symbol of imperial decadence. It’s a shame we’ll never fully see what Lynch intended (the TV cut has more footage but he wasn’t involved in the editing and MAN it shows). I understand why Lynch has kinda disowned it- it was the first time he really lost control of a project (and last unless you count all the drama with s2 of Twin Peaks.) Still I love it.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:36
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Just want to mention since people are talking about the games, the FMV in Emperor: Battle of Dune fuckin' rule (that game has a great soundtrack too). Michael Dorn as an Atreides Duke?  They're not reconcilable with the book at all (and House Ordos is basically all new stuff) but use a lot of stuff from the books which is pretty cool. I loved that in Dune 2 it was possible to get an extra ending where you unite the houses and depose of the Emperor/House Corrino completely instead of just proving yourself of being worthy of staying in charge of Dune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnvlDMbLPnY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-4O-4llNk John Rhys-Davies mentat hell yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT5snfvxDdc
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Jan 23, 2020 04:17
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Maxwell Lord posted:Lynch’s Dune is very flawed but also pretty great. Plot wise there’s a lot of awkward exposition and overexplaining, but the atmosphere and the sense of power Lynch creates is something that had never really been in a sci fi movie before. Visually and aurally it’s a work of art. It kills me to see that "Dune Without Words" clip I posted earlier because even without any dialogue, like, you know exactly what's going on just from the sound design, the way everything's shot, the vastness of that palace ship, the way the Emperor is used to being in charge and is a little shaken by these Guild folks rolling in to talk poo poo. If that movie had a better script it'd be incredible. I'd still say it's an absolute must watch though just for the look and sound.
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Jan 23, 2020 04:19
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Neo Rasa posted:I'd still say it's an absolute must watch though just for the look and sound. I agree completely. It stands on its own as a gorgeous and stunning production. While it's uneven in its exposition, it's not confusing. The story is straightforward. And even with its issues as an adaptation, it's a wonderful audiovisual companion to the novel.
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Jan 23, 2020 04:33
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davidspackage posted:The whispered inner monologues are such a blunt method of adapting a book that lets you read any character's thoughts, but it gives the movie a unique quality. Maybe Villeneuve should have the characters speak their thoughts directly in the camera, like panto performers. Reading this thread is not only bringing back memories of reading the novel and watching Lynch's adaptation, but also National Lampoon's Doon, where a galactic conflict is fought over control of the mind-altering substance, beer. Also ribbed were the internal monologues, conversations where everyone is hiding their true intent, "Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh", Drunken Omaha, Safire Halfwit and - a joke I didn't get until years later - NOAMCHOMSKY. Edit: I just this second realised who "Safire" is mocking. Payndz fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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Jan 23, 2020 08:32
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Payndz posted:It worked in House of Cards (the British original; haven't seen the remake). Pretty pumped about this movie. I liked Lynch's version well enough for how fascinating it was but couldn't get into the series too much. Villeneuve would've been my top pick for a Fine movie based on his recent track record so I think this is gonna own.
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Jan 23, 2020 11:21
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Are any of the fan edits of Lynch Dune that are on youtube actually good? I want to watch the movie with my wife, who hasn't seen it before, and I'm thinking of watching the fan edit (this one in particular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94d77kdmOvU) with her instead of the theatrical version.
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Jan 23, 2020 12:40
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The Redux cut is quite good and gives the second half of the film a coherence the theatrical cut lacks.
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Yeah the theatrical version kind of rockets through stuff to the end, and the Alan Smithee version is somehow both significantly longer without actually filling in the gaps there.
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