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Grandpa Palpatine posted:smh that Hollywood studios can't just fund a seven hour epic about jihad I'd say the Saracens came out looking pretty good compared to the crusaders in the Kingdom of Heaven extended cut.
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Cacator posted:I'd say the Saracens came out looking pretty good compared to the crusaders in the Kingdom of Heaven extended cut. i'm just saying make a long rear end Dune film and then make the next film Dune Messiah or w/e
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:i'm just saying make a long rear end Dune film and then make the next film Dune Messiah or w/e For the real book length disparity make the first Dune adaptation like five hours long and then make the Dune Messiah adaptation 85 minutes long. Cacator posted:I'd say the Saracens came out looking pretty good compared to the crusaders in the Kingdom of Heaven extended cut. I really like that movie a lot. If anyone hasn't seen it it really is like an Alien 3 Assembly Cut level difference in quality. Even much greater in some ways with how much more character and plot was cut out.
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Neo Rasa posted:For the real book length disparity make the first Dune adaptation like five hours long and then make the Dune Messiah adaptation 85 minutes long. All of Ridley Scott's director cuts are superior. Across the board. I can't think of another director where this is the case. Maybe Zack Snyder?
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:All of Ridley Scott's director cuts are superior. Across the board. I can't think of another director where this is the case. Maybe Zack Snyder? Legend is a wash, both versions do some things better than the other Can't remember which cut is hornier, probably Scott's lol
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Comedy option of Copolla because Redux is so long it makes the viewer feel like they're going crazy just like Lance
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Comedy option of Copolla because Redux is so long it makes the viewer feel like they're going crazy just like Lance I'm not saying the French plantation segment is weird and dumb and not particularly greatly executed (I mean it is on all three counts) but like, it's hilarious that they really put that scene back in like right in between them actually approaching Kurtz' territory and "Soon there would be nothing left, it was just me, and Kurtz." 
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:All of Ridley Scott's director cuts are superior. Across the board. Alien DC is not better than the theatrical. The cocoon scene was cut for good reasons. Grandpa Palpatine posted:Comedy option of Copolla because Redux is so long it makes the viewer feel like they're going crazy just like Lance The Apocalypse Now UHD release has a third cut that splits the difference between theatrical and redux. I’m tempted to pick it up but it would be the third time I’ve bought that movie and I think I’ve only watched the Blu-Ray once.
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david_a posted:Alien DC is not better than the theatrical. The cocoon scene was cut for good reasons. Pacing but it is one of the creepiest scenes I've seen in any movie.
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david_a posted:Alien DC is not better than the theatrical. The cocoon scene was cut for good reasons. To be fair, it isn’t actually a true DC. Scott had said the theatrical cut is his preferred version, he just wanted to show fans what could have been and the studio called it a director’s cut for marketing purposes.
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Yeah, iirc the studio wanted to say in marketing that they had alternate cuts for all of the Allen movies in their big megabox collection, and offered Scott a (presumably large) amount of money to just gently caress around for a bit and make a different cut they could use.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Yeah, iirc the studio wanted to say in marketing that they had alternate cuts for all of the Allen movies in their big megabox collection, and offered Scott a (presumably large) amount of money to just gently caress around for a bit and make a different cut they could use.
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It's just the In Space Noone Can Hear You In Space movie
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Ah yes, remembering the time I learned about egg morphing from the Annie Hall director’s cut.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Yeah, iirc the studio wanted to say in marketing that they had alternate cuts for all of the Allen movies in their big megabox collection, and offered Scott a (presumably large) amount of money to just gently caress around for a bit and make a different cut they could use. Both Gladiator and Alien have an intro before the those cuts of the movie where he's basically like "what's up motherfuckers the film I directed and chose to have released in theaters was absolutely flawless but here's some stuff I threw together so these marketing suits will shut the gently caress up peace"
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Alien 3 is proof that David Fincher is a better director than Scotty Riddle.
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phasmid posted:Alien 3 is proof that David Fincher is a better director than Scotty Riddle. i thought no one liked alien 3 better than aliens other than me
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:i thought no one liked alien 3 better than aliens other than me Well, he didn’t say Fincher is better than Cameron. So he might not.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:i thought no one liked alien 3 better than aliens other than me  Bugblatter posted:Well, he didn’t say Fincher is better than Cameron. So he might not. For clarification, Fincher is better than Cameron also.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:i thought no one liked alien 3 better than aliens other than me You've got allies on this forum, my friend 
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I like Alien 3 but saying that it’s better than the original is uh a take alright
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phasmid posted:Alien 3 is proof that David Fincher is a better director than Scotty Riddle. i like Alien 3 better than like 95% of this subforum and even i wouldn't go that far it's only the second-best Alien movie after Prometheus, after all 
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david_a posted:I like Alien 3 but saying that it’s better than the original is uh a take alright Yeah, better than Aliens but not Alien for sure.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:i thought no one liked alien 3 better than aliens other than me You're in Cinema Discusso. Aliens is definitely better but you'll find loads of people here with that take. In fairness to Fincher, most of the issues with the finished product were outside of his control and it's far better than it has any right to be. I'd love to see the alternate universe version without all the nonsense surrounding production. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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david_a posted:I like Alien 3 but saying that it’s better than the original is uh a take alright no way in hell.. it's Alien > Alien^3>Aliens>Prometheus>Alien Resurrection>Alien Covenant
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Tuxedo Catfish there not entirely helping the cause where people who love Alien 3 are seen to be maniacs. 
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:no way in hell.. feedmyleg posted:Yeah, better than Aliens but not Alien for sure. phasmid posted:Alien 3 is proof that David Fincher is a better director than Scotty Riddle. Bugblatter posted:Well, he didn’t say Fincher is better than Cameron. So he might not. Tuxedo Catfish posted:i like Alien 3 better than like 95% of this subforum and even i wouldn't go that far 
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Alien: Covenant is def better than the garbage that is Alien Resurrection.
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I think that graphic was made before Covenant, but if it were in the list I'd put it above Resurrection. Covenant has a lot of really interesting stuff going on but it's a mess—just like Resurrection. But it has David which for sure gives it the edge. I feel like Isolation would fit between the two on my list. Though yeah Covenant deserves a rewatch from me. It was a weird expectations thing for me the first time around.
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feedmyleg posted:I think that graphic was made before Covenant, but if it were in the list I'd put it above Resurrection. Covenant has a lot of really interesting stuff going on but it's a mess—just like Resurrection. But it has David which for sure gives it the edge. I feel like Isolation would fit between the two on my list. Yeah I made it like a few months before Covenant dropped. I think my actual, real order would be: Alien (either cut) Alien 3 assembly cut Aliens extended Prometheus Aliens theatrical Covenant Alien 3 theatrical Alien Resurrection (either cut) But this is like a pointless thing to rank for me because to me theatrical Alien 3 and Resurrection are the only movies in Actually Bad territory. I love the rest.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The Whedon script for Resurrection is so loving bad. Ah see the problem is, scripts have dialogue in them.
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