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Allman style wastes far too much vertical space. Unfortunately it's our standard at work. And we also do int* foo instead of int *foo and it makes me sad.
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Presto posted:And we also do int* foo instead of int *foo and it makes me sad.
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seeing that wiki page talk about experimentation yielded that tabs of “2 to 4 spaces were optimal” got me thinking they should compromise at 3. then I remembered the funny tech poo poo when ATM standardized on 48-byte cells since Europe and US wouldn’t compromise between 32 and 64.
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Mar 28, 2022 03:04
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Gentle Autist posted:lmao hard tabs. right on brand shaggar i love spaces-for-indentation because its a 100% guaranteed indicator that anyone who uses it is an idiot.
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Presto posted:Allman style wastes far too much vertical space. Unfortunately it's our standard at work. are you on a crt or something? who cares about vertical space?
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Shaggar posted:are you on a crt or something? who cares about vertical space? i thought you were on the correct side of the 16:10 issue 
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Mar 28, 2022 04:17
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i hae a 16:10 monitor so i dont have to worry about vertical space
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Mar 28, 2022 04:18
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is the segway tech adjacent enough because I got reminded of it recently and: lol
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Mar 28, 2022 07:02
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Monitors are wider than they are tall, unless you're one of those weirdos with a vertical monitor, and I want as much code on my screen as possible.
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Mar 28, 2022 15:22
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Doom Mathematic posted:
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Mar 28, 2022 16:01
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if you have to care about formatting, it means you aren’t using an auto-format tool in tyool 2022, and that’s bad
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Mar 29, 2022 11:59
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The_Franz posted:if you have to care about formatting, it means you aren’t using an auto-format tool in tyool 2022, and that’s bad
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Mar 29, 2022 12:02
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Kitfox88 posted:is the segway tech adjacent enough because I got reminded of it recently and: lol segawy seems funny as a far out company that did way too wild stuff and then the president drove himself off a cliff on one of their products. now they seem to be experiencing moderate success by selling scooters with electric motors in them. this requires none of the fancy tech they invented.
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Mar 29, 2022 12:25
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Presto posted:Monitors are wider than they are tall, unless you're one of those weirdos with a vertical monitor, and I want as much code on my screen as possible. smdh if you don't have one of each hard tab supremacy imo but I'll admit I have that baked in from cutting my teeth on SQL where the IDEs are uniformly terrible at things like highlighting so you have to use tabs to give yourself a chance of working out which subquery you're in
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Mar 29, 2022 12:35
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i have one of each but the vertical monitor is an ancient 1680x1050 that is approximately as tall on its side as the main monitor is when horizontal
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Mar 29, 2022 13:12
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The_Franz posted:if you have to care about formatting, it means you aren’t using an auto-format tool in tyool 2022, and that’s bad it makes me sad when people don’t use the basic features build into word. like it will autogenerate beautiful tables of contents and tables of authorities but you have to actually use the heading tools and such built in.
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Mar 29, 2022 13:13
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segways issue as I see it as a layman was that they were the first to use the fancy accelerometer and gyro tech that we all take for granted today and planned to build an empire on that along with brushless motors and big lipo batteries. segways were seriously impressive when they first came out, but then everyone from Nintendo with the Wii, to every single drone manufacturer, to toy manufacturers and cell phone companies got onboard, drove the costs for those components down to pennies and made them completely commonplace. without looking, I’m positive there is a GitHub with free software and libraries that you could use to make your own self balancing vehicle right now today. they were the first to do something really cool that they also couldn’t stop anyone (china) from doing better and more importantly, cheaper
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it's not a coincidence that all that stuff suddenly took off right after the segway patents expired the founded the company in literally 1999 and utterly failed to seriously monetize their stuff in their window of patent exclusivity
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segway could probably have been more successful, but afaik they kind of did fine for a new niche. what mostly happened is the tech bubble where tangible specialized hardware products simply cannot possibly keep up with apps, ads, hype and all the usual tech bubble garbage, even when in principle good and successful. no one really invested in it beyond an initial hype. googles toothbrush test etc., got to sell the thing to literally every single person, without the constraints of needing to build instances of anything.
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it got killed by hype and it was too expensive five thousand dollar scooters aren’t going to revolutionize transit anywhere
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Segway:
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Mr. Nice! posted:it makes me sad when people don’t use the basic features build into word. like it will autogenerate beautiful tables of contents and tables of authorities but you have to actually use the heading tools and such built in.
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Mar 29, 2022 13:57
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It's kind of hard to use styles in word well. I guess styles can be based on other styles, but you can't apply multiple paragraph or character styles at the same time? Like is there any way to define a block quote style and then combine it with styles for different levels of indentation which seems like literally the the most basic thing you would possibly want to do with styles? Do I just need to make my own style preprocessor?
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Mar 29, 2022 14:24
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styles were so poorly implemented that it's not surprising nobody uses them. but then Word is definitely one of those things where you're not allowed to change anything because 50% of the users will scream bloody murder if it doesn't work exactly like it says in their copy of Word For Dummies from 1997.
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Mar 29, 2022 14:28
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i hate any time i spend in word *but* also kind of disagree that it'd be better with more styles layering and stuff. ideal use is to embrace the restrictions. possibly best feature they could add is a document level formatting lock which limits what buttons authors can (often accidentally) push.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i hate any time i spend in word *but* also kind of disagree that it'd be better with more styles layering and stuff. ideal use is to embrace the restrictions. possibly best feature they could add is a document level formatting lock which limits what buttons authors can (often accidentally) push. In its current state, you constantly have to define new styles every time you need a new combination of attributes which makes styles very time consuming to use and difficult to get consistent between multiple documents even if they're based on the same template. I personally almost always use them when I use word, but they're enough of a PITA in various ways that I'm not that surprised that other people don't.
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Mar 29, 2022 14:45
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word is made from rear end and poo
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mystes posted:It's kind of hard to use styles in word well. I guess styles can be based on other styles, but you can't apply multiple paragraph or character styles at the same time? absolutely. i set up my own templates when i was a lawyer and i still use them. heading 1 is primary heading all caps, bold, and underlined. heading 2 is bold all caps no underline, and heading 3 is bold regular case no underline. normal text is double spaced justified and block quotes are single space double indent justified. works great!
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here's the default styles: you can make any amount of changes to those and save them as a template or even make your own!
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Mr. Nice! posted:here's the default styles: Intense Quote
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Presto posted:Monitors are wider than they are tall, unless you're one of those weirdos with a vertical monitor, and I want as much code on my screen as possible.  
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Mr. Nice! posted:here's the default styles: To make stuff like that work you either need to be able to apply multiple styles like mixins or you need cascading neither of which word styles have. mystes fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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can you show me what you’re talking about because i’m not certain what you mean.
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Mr. Nice! posted:can you show me what you’re talking about because i’m not certain what you mean. A reasonable thing to want to do, which would be extremely trivial in something like css would be to say "I want a paragraph that's at indent level 2 and also has the box paragraph style applied". How do you do that with word styles? If you can't apply multiple paragraph styles at the same time, the only remaining option is to create styles for every possible combination, so you have to manually create styles like "indent level 1 + black border". mystes fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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Mar 29, 2022 17:46
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some friends and i had one of these in college. excellent nethack appliance
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walk up to the club like
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psiox posted:walk up to the club like walk up to the club like "what up? I got a big soc" I'm just pumped, bought this chip at the thrift shop
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degauss
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mystes posted:Imagine you have a book that has text at multiple indent levels (call them indent level 1, indent level 2, etc.) and you have paragraph styles for each indent level. Imagine you also have a paragraph style that applies a border (ignoring the fact that using paragraph borders sucks in word for various reasons). ok i get what you’re saying now. i’ve never tried to do something like that because it would never come up in the drafting of documents i did as a lawyer or now as an academic, but i’ll dick around a bit when i get home and see if there’s a simple solution.
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