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DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

I’ve been waiting for this to hit release. gotta open a program to extract stuff get da gently caress outta here.

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Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

Beeftweeter posted:

lol, funny that we were just talking about archive support on windows. i just read a thing saying they're integrating libarchive with windows 11, meaning most formats should be natively supported

windows zip integration has been super half assed for years so this sounds like something i'll immediately disable the second after i run sshhh or whatever to turn off all the tattlers and ad integrations

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Corla Plankun posted:

windows zip integration has been super half assed for years so this sounds like something i'll immediately disable the second after i run sshhh or whatever to turn off all the tattlers and ad integrations

idk if they're going to integrate it with a separate utility or something but they really should. zip folders were a decent idea implemented terribly and i can't see tacking on a ton more supported formats actually like helping anything, in that form anyway

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE

Corla Plankun posted:

windows zip integration has been super half assed for years so this sounds like something i'll immediately disable the second after i run sshhh or whatever to turn off all the tattlers and ad integrations

drat you Dave

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

Carthag Tuek posted:

i miss diskettes

come over, OP. Bring plenty of coffee.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


armpit_enjoyer posted:

come over, OP. Bring plenty of coffee.



that's a long build up to end in disappointment

















just like my marriage :negative:

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


what are the odds that every one of those 3711 floppies would be uncorrupted

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP
I would suspect theyre aware of that issue and maybe have some .par type stuff going on? it's also possible that the five seconds of thought i put into that is more than they did tho.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
... wait, that's real? :psyduck:

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


no of course not lol

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

the one reason it just barely could be real is if there's some old giant government contract that has "deliver floppies" in there, but no one actually expects anyone to use them.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


i expect it could be real as something they'd provide if anyone (government or business) specifically requested it, kinda like the physical version of windows 11

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


armpit_enjoyer posted:

come over, OP. Bring plenty of coffee.



i hate meatloaf

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

the one reason it just barely could be real is if there's some old giant government contract that has "deliver floppies" in there, but no one actually expects anyone to use them.

njsykora posted:

i expect it could be real as something they'd provide if anyone (government or business) specifically requested it, kinda like the physical version of windows 11

It's these, I thought "haha what a silly jape" but then everyone started talking about it in earnest and suddenly I simply no longer knew.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

On the one hand, it's the only photo of this, and where would M$ found a supply of high quality floppies and a facility to manufacture the disks

On the other, well, it's a Microsoft Windows installation package in Chinese on 3711 floppies, CIB

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts
It’s Japanese I’m fairly sure

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

low ping bastards

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Internet Old One posted:

4dos was the bomb so much more powerful than plain batch.
Dr-dos was the bomb, especially with multitasking and somehow using some video memory to give you nearly a full 640k on boot.

I never used it except once or twice in a VM but desqview/X was sooo under appreciated and came close to making DOS into a respectable single user no-security platform. Absolutely criminal that nobody used it. I wish it was at least successful enough to get an x11r6 compatible release. At R5 it just barely falls short of maybe supporting some really useful modern apps.

dd was a great colorful dir replacement

anyone else remember those drivers that would let you get nearly 2 megs on a floppy? I remember making massive bootable archives for my friends that would start up, load the driver and start dearchiving like 40 floppies worth of crap to their hard drive.

doctor dos sucked, it was missing random utilities and it was a lot less stable than ms dos.

ms dos was the best
pc dos was sub par
dr dos was lol avoid

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

Progressive JPEG posted:

low ping bastards

it was a while before i finally got adsl compared to a lot of other people on the local quake 2 server, and i actually got worse at it. turns out that i wasn't all that great at conventionally playing the game, i was just very, very good at predicting where people were going to be ~200ms in the future

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP
i was actually in a qw clan named the High Ping Bastards. only rule: be on dialup

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Crazy Achmed posted:

it was a while before i finally got adsl compared to a lot of other people on the local quake 2 server, and i actually got worse at it. turns out that i wasn't all that great at conventionally playing the game, i was just very, very good at predicting where people were going to be ~200ms in the future

The HPB player's aim knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The ownage sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the player's aim from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the pubby is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the HPB. However, the player must also know where it was. The HPB player's aim computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the player has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "gg"

Volmarias fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Aug 21, 2023

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
x tree gold

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


I remember it being "high ping whiners"

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Armitag3 posted:

i hate meatloaf

I have great news for you op

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Jonny 290 posted:

i was actually in a qw clan named the High Ping Bastards. only rule: be on dialup

i got laughed out of a tfc clan for having a winmodem

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Leperflesh posted:

doctor dos sucked, it was missing random utilities and it was a lot less stable than ms dos.

ms dos was the best
pc dos was sub par
dr dos was lol avoid

What utilities were missing from drdos? Are you sure you weren’t exposed to an older version?

How can any DOS be unstable? It’s barely even an OS.

Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Aug 21, 2023

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

it was probably more down to software doing things the "wrong" way, but which worked on MS-DOS and not others, rather than specific faults with other OSes

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Sweevo posted:

it was probably more down to software doing things the "wrong" way, but which worked on MS-DOS and not others, rather than specific faults with other OSes

The jobs not done until lotus doesn't run

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Internet Old One posted:

What utilities were missing from drdos? Are you sure you weren’t exposed to an older version?

How can any DOS be unstable? It’s barely even an OS.

I was hoping nobody would ask this because I don't remember very well. We had programs (games, probably?) that would crash on dr dos for sure, and we used to gently caress around with esoteric dos utilities but gently caress man, it was over 30 years ago and my brain just isn't what it used to be

I do remember the most stable versions of dos were the odd numbered ones, though. Dos 4.0 was really bad. Maybe we had dr dos 4.0 or something.

echinopsis posted:

x tree gold

the best file management program for dos/windows I've ever used, to this day. You could grab a whole subdirectory tree and move it with one command, you could search within a dir and all its subs, the display options were so good!

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Leperflesh posted:

I was hoping nobody would ask this because I don't remember very well. We had programs (games, probably?) that would crash on dr dos for sure, and we used to gently caress around with esoteric dos utilities but gently caress man, it was over 30 years ago and my brain just isn't what it used to be

I do remember the most stable versions of dos were the odd numbered ones, though. Dos 4.0 was really bad. Maybe we had dr dos 4.0 or something.


I guess I’ll buy that. Also the only version of drdos I used was pretty late in the game when it was already opendos and most people were using windows95. I had a machine in my room that didn’t have the ram for 95 or linux and drdos + win 3.1 was what I used. I remembered feeling like I wish I’d had drdos when I was a bigger dos user but its entirely possible that early versions of drdos weren’t anything to get excited about.

I also dual booted various versions of minix but recall they were all useless until I could get x11 on minixvmd and for my effort I was rewarded with a dog slow X11 experience but I took what I could get.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

archivechat not having the greatest archival program ever (stuffit) is negligence on all our parts.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
wasn't dr dos actually some weird version of cp/m? maybe that's why it had compatibility issues

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

the cp/m heritage in the different flavours of DOS is complicated. none of the various DOSes are actually based on cp/m in any meaningful way, but there's a lot of low-level data structures (particularly for file handling) that were carried over to make porting cp/m software easier. most of that stuff stopped being used after MS-DOS 2.x because it has too many limitations.

compatibility issues are normally down to lovely software. like if a program wants to say read the status of a drive then 95% of them will call the function that returns the drive status. but the other 5% will just directly read the memory location where MS-DOS stores that info. if an alternative DOS doesn't store the info in the same place then the program fails and the user blames the OS.

Sweevo fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Oct 18, 2023

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
lol PEEK and POKE

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Using windirsat to eke out hd space on my parents' laptops so they would just about keep working

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
altho now I use wiz tree but it’s still required to do so

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

dunno if it counts as tech stuff but it was part of the weird dotcom era and i just can't stop thinking about kozmo.com.

HELLOMYNAMEIS___
Dec 30, 2007

Opera Unite.

that was actually useful. i can't believe sending large files to a friend over the internet is still an unresolved issue :pirate:

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
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Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

HELLOMYNAMEIS___ posted:

Opera Unite.

that was actually useful. i can't believe sending large files to a friend over the internet is still an unresolved issue :pirate:

it's solved, it just involves registering an account and then confirming the account and then adding a payment method and adding a monthly subscription and paying money and and and and and

:smith:

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