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well-read undead
Dec 13, 2022

Sniep posted:

movies on blu-ray disc available for purchase in a brick and mortar retail establishment

i bought a movie on blu-ray disc from a brick and mortar retailer as recently as a month ago

a little known local store called "barnes and noble"

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Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


I still buy physical disk of some things. Most recent was probably Dune, next will be the 4k edition of Stop Makin Sense if I can get it shipped

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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i buy wax and cassettes for sure. no 5.25 media tho

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

divx, the dvds that had to phone home for a per-play license

flexplay, the dvds that decayed after 48 hours

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

well-read undead posted:

i bought a movie on blu-ray disc from a brick and mortar retailer as recently as a month ago

a little known local store called "barnes and noble"

I was just at B&N today and got a few! but the shelves are 90% DVD now, instead of like 50% blu / 15% 4k / 35% DVD which seemed to be the split like a year ago.

Sniep fucked around with this message at 01:15 on May 27, 2024

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sniep posted:

movies on blu-ray disc available for purchase in a brick and mortar retail establishment

yeah i remember Saturday too on account of it havin been two days ago

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
thanks for reminding me I need to pick up ikarie xb-1 on blu ray

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

3D Megadoodoo posted:

yeah i remember Saturday too on account of it havin been two days ago

hook it up then where am i missing

best buy stopped entirely, walmart is all DVD no bluray save for just a couple, target is down to a single half-height island that's mostly empty, maybe 50/50 blu and dvd new releases only, at 100% price (like $25-$30+ for HD), the local grocery store has a little media section, also almost down to DVD's only as the remaining blu's sell thru, and has HD for new releases only - priced thusly:



those are literally the prices, lmao. That stand still stands today, has been there since the physical release. There's no backpressure of furhter releases taking the floor space, just those unsold copies sitting there at an unsellable price.

The supply is absolutely constrained right now, i think it's intentional to keep HD content only available on streaming services tbqh

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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4 for 5 on whoppers and milk duds tho

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




wait, why are store going backwards and stocking dvds but not Blu-ray’s?

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Beve Stuscemi posted:

wait, why are store going backwards and stocking dvds but not Blu-ray’s?

because most people don't care + people who do they want recurring streaming revenue out of

frankly i think there are industry players out there who are pissed HD physical media got as popular as it did and that 4k ever existed - why would you rebuy a movie after already having it in HD or 4K?

again this is just theories but people having 4-5x streaming services at 12.99 a month sure is a nice recurring revenue stream instead of people trading movies or thrifting them

i mean, check me on this but it's pretty evident out and about on store shelves

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Beve Stuscemi posted:

wait, why are store going backwards and stocking dvds but not Blu-ray’s?

i think it might be as simple as dvds still sell better. like you know the thing where people can't tell the difference between high and low quality audio? that also applies to video so a bunch of people are still perfectly fine buying the cheaper version of the movie.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
a bunch of people can't tell the difference because they literally only have a 1080p television. the people who buy a new television every year are the ones most likely to get their movies on a streaming service instead.

the people on that advertising board are probably ones with an older television, considering the kids outgrew fitting everyone on their two-seater couch a few years back but they still haven't gotten a bigger one

well-read undead
Dec 13, 2022

Jabor posted:

a bunch of people can't tell the difference because they literally only have a 1080p television. the people who buy a new television every year are the ones most likely to get their movies on a streaming service instead.

dvds are sd so they look way worse on a 1080p tv, but yes your overall point stands

i'm sure it's some combination of higher profit margin/more sales/people don't care

i still buy stuff on dvd (used) if it's not something i think needs or really benefits from higher fidelity

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
DVDs are for tube tvs or rear projection sets

blu rays at least work on a modern LCD panel 1080 set

4ks i reserve for only top end visual flicks, but i never will intentionally buy a DVD becuase it just looks like trash to me

well-read undead
Dec 13, 2022

i'm filling up a plex server, with the goal being a recreation of browsing the center aisles of a hollywood video circa 2007. there's a lot of garbage in there, by design, and a lot of it looks like poo poo no matter what media it's on. so some of it does come down to what i'm specifically up to — if i were only collecting "good" media is probably eschew dvd as well

then again, not everything has a blu-ray release. heck, some stuff i've got on there never even got a dvd release

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
I mean, same... I also rip ever disc to my plex server, but I just started collecting video entirely in 2008 after BR won the HD format war over HDDVD and started there - I was never interested in collecting SD media.

like my server now is:





I only get a DVD if it's a movie I just absoultely have to have but it's just not available on blu. Otherwise I'll make the stretch. It takes a lot of space to keep the 1:1 images though.

This is 100% media on my plex server, nothing else.:

Sniep fucked around with this message at 18:49 on May 27, 2024

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


James video x video James

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.
i get movies at 480p because that way they download faster

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I get everything in 4k hdr if I can because I hate color banding and macroblocking

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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i only get >1080p if i know im gonna multi watch it and people on the production side cared

dune 2? ofc 80mbit or w/e
milf manor? cheapest rip i can find

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

i just rewatched the 4k of fifth element and it was fantastic. the effects really held up too

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Jonny 290 posted:

i only get >1080p if i know im gonna multi watch it and people on the production side cared

dune 2? ofc 80mbit or w/e
milf manor? cheapest rip i can find

i have one 4k bluray and it's into the spiderverse for this reason

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




njsykora posted:

i have one 4k bluray and it's milf manor for this reason

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

well-read undead posted:

i'm filling up a plex server, with the goal being a recreation of browsing the center aisles of a hollywood video circa 2007. there's a lot of garbage in there, by design, and a lot of it looks like poo poo no matter what media it's on. so some of it does come down to what i'm specifically up to — if i were only collecting "good" media is probably eschew dvd as well

then again, not everything has a blu-ray release. heck, some stuff i've got on there never even got a dvd release

Lol I did this.

I wanted on demand to feel like an 80/90s video store and I had an electronic programming guide plugin and had content that would simulate channel flipping in 1992 or so. I even had a collection of interesting and absurd public access shows as well as a convincing set of "community announcement" slides all ego/video toaster looking and lovely. I had hdhomerun integration so I had all that and live channels with no cable.

But yeah I had all that poo poo; frankenhooker, cobra, escape from new york, a 1985 instructional video on akido, 3 episodes of little house on the prarie, hammer films, a bunch of classics, then faces of death and a copy of ninja scroll, etc. Not all of it for actually watching, just completing the feel when I'm browsing videos.

I don't remember how much I had horded total but there were 3000 movies and it honestly got hard to think of new ones after about 1200... crazy blockbusters had 10,000 movies supposedly.

Unfortunately the software I was using to do this was pretty glitchy and would keep toppling over so I eventually got tired of janitoring it. Now I just use DLNA and streaming services but I still got several backups of all those movies if someone makes software compelling enough to try again.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


polyester concept posted:

i just rewatched the 4k of fifth element and it was fantastic. the effects really held up too

oooh. Did they rescan it or just upscale it?

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


btw I cannot stress enough how good the new Stop Making Sense 4k restore is. It's amazing .

I saw it in a cinema and was like "holy poo poo I haven't seen this before" and I've seen it a *lot*

I was desperate for a piss half of the way through though which took the shine off a bit.

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

that's what the piss sock is for

Bjork Bjowlob
Feb 23, 2006
yes that's very hot and i'll deal with it in the morning


polyester concept posted:

i just rewatched the 4k of fifth element and it was fantastic. the effects really held up too

Luc Besson always went ham on the practical effects and his movies were better for it

Until Valerian at least (except for the prologue) - in ten years it will look more dated than Fifth Element, a movie that is now 27 years old

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

well-read undead posted:

dvds are sd so they look way worse on a 1080p tv, but yes your overall point stands

i'm sure it's some combination of higher profit margin/more sales/people don't care

i still buy stuff on dvd (used) if it's not something i think needs or really benefits from higher fidelity

a dvd with a decent upscaler will probably look better than most hd people see on cable. that's the level of fidelity that they're used to

i was absolutely loving astonished when i saw the xfinity cable my parents were paying $140/month for. i could tell that it was hd res, but it had to be compressed down to, oh, i'd take a (very educated) guess and say maybe 0.5-3 mbit, i.e. it looked like complete poo poo. every time there was any motion it was macroblocked as all hell (not to mention fine print on prescription drug commercials or whatever, lol. nearly illegible), and it seemed the chroma subsampling was 4:2:0, so everything was desaturated and color bled all over the place, and they very obviously applied an unsharp mask to everything. idk if this was just the specific box they had or what, but holy gently caress was it bad

yet they insisted that it was fine. i knew it wasn't the tv, but it was only after i showed them the same content using a hulu live tv trial that they realized just how loving lovely their cable looked. and overall they were paying comcast something like $190/month (including 30 mbps internet, lmao), and the only reason i know this is because it was going to be raised to $210/month because number

so they cut the cord and incidentally use hulu for live tv now because it was the cheapest option that had the lineup they wanted, then switched isps

anyway point is most people can't tell that things look like poo poo because they're used to looking at lovely quality video almost all the time. but even then, differences that might be obvious to you and i are not obvious at all to them. ime in general people (not just people in their 70s lol) are absolutely horrible at distinguishing details like that

e: oh also upscalers are pretty good nowadays

e2: also i'm pretty sure (99.8%) that was h.264, not hevc. if it was, chop those numbers by ~a quarter, either way the bitrate was not at all adequate lol

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 27, 2024

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

rating songs on a 5 star scale instead of just "like"/"not like"

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003


even ATSC is shamefully compressed now

seems webdl is the top tier source these days

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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ota digital tv is loving garbo. it looks so bad rofl

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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on any given weekend there are 20 million dads watching a 300kbps football stream on air with the picture rescaled to 4:3 and sharpening set to max and motion interpolation set to gently caress-you and they wonder why they're no longer happy

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Powerful Two-Hander posted:

btw I cannot stress enough how good the new Stop Making Sense 4k restore is. It's amazing .

I saw it in a cinema and was like "holy poo poo I haven't seen this before" and I've seen it a *lot*

I was desperate for a piss half of the way through though which took the shine off a bit.

in addition to the video blowing my head clean off my shoulders, they took the opportunity to address some of the audio/video desync and did a really great job. just an excellent presentation.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

outhole surfer posted:

seems webdl is the top tier source these days

nope it's still blu ray remux

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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Midjack posted:

in addition to the video blowing my head clean off my shoulders, they took the opportunity to address some of the audio/video desync and did a really great job. just an excellent presentation.

man the nirvana dvd rips are SOOOO out of sync it sucks real bad. one day i'll be that guy and will premiere them up and resync everything. but dont even bother downloading any rips yet

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

Sniep posted:

nope it's still blu ray remux

fair -- i guess i was thinking more about same-day sources

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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outhole surfer posted:

fair -- i guess i was thinking more about same-day sources

get better invites, noob

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

outhole surfer posted:

even ATSC is shamefully compressed now

seems webdl is the top tier source these days

yeah. web-dl for a smaller file size i guess, but

Sniep posted:

nope it's still blu ray remux

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