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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I jerked so hard, and got so far, but in the end I couldn't even kamehameha
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people who would put the windows task bar up top, use rocketdock on the bottom, and then theme it to look like a mac
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Agile Vector posted:who watches these or amvs? are these like numbers stations for nerds? People who like Sir Mix-a-Lot's music butt need visual aids.
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Jabor posted:xhtml vrml
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Raluek posted:the super minimal xp iso that had so little remaining it didn’t even have any drivers included actually updating drivers for you graphics card because poo poo would always be hosed up in some way so drivers made a difference
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:actually updating drivers for you graphics card because poo poo would always be hosed up in some way so drivers made a difference also: never updating drivers for your graphics card because there was good odds they'd gently caress up in some new way that actually affected the things you wanted to do
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Jabor posted:also: never updating drivers for your graphics card because there was good odds they'd gently caress up in some new way that actually affected the things you wanted to do lol yeah that too. and all those apps that cleaned out your old drivers so you'd have to boot to basic vga to then do a clean install
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when the best practice for enterprise software was “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” I can recall putting off some major service pack for exchange server in like 2005 because the server worked fine and it was more likely the SP would mess things up
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Beve Stuscemi posted:when the best practice for enterprise software was “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” what do you mean 'when'?
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I mean when the practice wasn’t “update immediately so your entire organization doesn’t get ransomwared”
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Wild EEPROM posted:people who would put the windows task bar up top, use rocketdock on the bottom, and then theme it to look like a mac this was def me in college
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i had a windows xp theme to look like osx of the time
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windowblinds because i desperately wanted windows 98 to look like mac os
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  This is peak UI. The greatest evidence that we're living in a simulation is the fact that there are barely any themes or window managers that recreate the experience and yet in the real world's 2024 there would be several for each platform. Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jun 17, 2024 |
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outhole surfer posted:windowblinds i used to use a bunch of stardock crap until their ceo emailed me and told me to knock off the piracy (i was running a forum where people would just post links to windows poo poo). he tried to bribe me with a free-for-life copy of windowblinds, which i accepted, but didn't actually remove or block links to stardock crap lol later i found out he's a tremendous piece of poo poo person so i don't feel bad about it
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Internet Old One posted:
classic mac os had a good ui, yes. but mac os x 10.6 snow leopard was god's own operating system, and, by extension, ui. it was all downhill from there e: since you're interested in old unix and poo poo, you might wanna give A/UX a spin. i think it works in qemu or maybe mame now? you used to need a specialized emulator like shoebill for it but i don't think that's developed anymore e2: qemu will definitely run it, shoebill isn't developed anymore, and i can't figure out if mame will run it, lol. it might, idk. i know it was merged with MESS a long time ago, and that had mac emulation support. older poo poo like mini vmac or basilisk ii definitely won't Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jun 17, 2024 |
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outhole surfer posted:windowblinds lmao windowblinds still exists and is being advertised exactly as you'd think  fake edit: this reminded me of object desktop which is also still going I guess
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A/UX ruled it ran native mac apps, of course  but also unix command line stuff  and of course, x11  which you could log into directly too, if you were a real sick bastard  and made it easy! there was an applet called "commando", i.e. command do, lol, that would give you a gui for most cli apps. e.g. here's `ls`  today we've definitely gone backwards, but not in a good way. modern poo poo attempting to be simplistic doesn't hold a candle to this kinda poo poo, we should go backwards in a good way e: kinda like the screenshot showing macX running a more modern build of mozilla alongside a native mac os version of netscape, you could probably connect to a modern system using a classic mac theme and it'd likely fit in almost seamlessly Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jun 17, 2024 |
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a/ux was so weird. it was a checklist item (certain federal contracts require systems to be unix-compatible so apple commissioned a version of unix for their hardware in order to try to break into that market) but it somehow also turned out to be a really good version of unix that also did an amazing job of running macos software and had an excellent gui it would be an interesting alternate timeline where apple built its future os plans on a/ux instead of copland/gershwin/pink/taligent and eventually nextstep
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Tijuana-A-Go-Go posted:lmao windowblinds still exists and is being advertised exactly as you'd think lol nice job making luna even uglier, stardock
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FMguru posted:a/ux was so weird. it was a checklist item (certain federal contracts require systems to be unix-compatible so apple commissioned a version of unix for their hardware in order to try to break into that market) but it somehow also turned out to be a really good version of unix that also did an amazing job of running macos software and had an excellent gui tbh other than it requiring a FPU and MMU idk why they didn't. obviously it was more based on system 7 than 8 despite being nearly contemporaneous (by the time they killed it), but it probably would've looked and acted practically the same if they gave it the copland theme spitshine e: though i imagine the ppc transition is what really, ultimately killed it. a/ux was 68k, and porting all of that poo poo to ppc would've taken far far longer than them just running a translation layer like they did with regular macos Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 17, 2024 |
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modern simplicity is just getting rid of any contrast, button shapes, differentiation between content and program, and then putting everything behind one menu button that spawns a 5 layer menu abomination
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Beeftweeter posted:classic mac os had a good ui, yes. but mac os x 10.6 snow leopard was god's own operating system, and, by extension, ui. it was all downhill from there I've never run it but I've seen it/know about it. I would like to use the UI as a daily driver and running A/UX for reals is not practical. 3 options: MOTIF, OS9, Windows 7. All other GUI are haram with the exception of TempleOS which is fine for what it is.
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Beeftweeter posted:A/UX ruled This is loving awesome and they should totally have something like this along with xman integrated into a terminal by now. I instead the experience is like txrrsidecow --help ---pages of poo poo--- audible sigh. txrrsidecow --help|less ---page of poo poo (1 of 8)--- ^C man txrrsidecow ugh ^C Not reading that crap... duckduckgo.com... "how to do the thing in txrrsidecow"
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i was reading the wiki page for the "star trek project", which was system 7 running on x86 on top of DR-DOS. the whole thing is pretty interesting, but i can't help but think that if that had been in like 2022 instead of 1992, it would've happened:quote:All the MBAs in the world can't convince us it’s a good model. that's why it didn't happen, and lol lmao no software product manager would be able to say the same thing, about anything at all, today
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Internet Old One posted:This is loving awesome and they should totally have something like this along with xman integrated into a terminal by now. I instead the experience is like commando ruled, i'm really surprised they never did anything similar in os x (or anyone else in any other distro). idk if they had to manually generate those uis though, if so i can see why they didn't
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Internet Old One posted:I've never run it but I've seen it/know about it. I would like to use the UI as a daily driver and running A/UX for reals is not practical. yeah, of course it's not practical today. i know there's a literally zero percent chance of it getting open-sourced, but since its architecture is pretty well known maybe it could be hammered into something modern with a lot of effort lol either way you could just point the x server to a remote machine, maybe even a local server underneath a vm. it technically could "run" something modern that way i suppose e: also even though i've run it myself i got those screenshots from nathan lineback's excellent GUI gallery, that link has his commentary on using A/UX and is an interesting read Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 17, 2024 |
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Beeftweeter posted:tbh other than it requiring a FPU and MMU idk why they didn't. obviously it was more based on system 7 than 8 despite being nearly contemporaneous (by the time they killed it), but it probably would've looked and acted practically the same if they gave it the copland theme spitshine
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FMguru posted:yeah its just funny because back in 2000 people were falling all over themselves in astonishment when stebes first osx demo showed that you could run mac software on top of unix with a good gui, only to later realize that apple had already done that (on the obscure a/ux project) eight years earlier more like 12 years earlier lol, a/ux was first released in 1988, but at the time didn't even have a ui e: for the unix parts anyway, but it could run system 6 apps individually. a/ux 1.1 a year later was really the first good release Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jun 17, 2024 |
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Beeftweeter posted:either way you could just point the x server to a remote machine, maybe even a local server underneath a vm. it technically could "run" something modern that way i suppose Probably not very well. Modern UI toolkits normally expect to be running locally and also normally expect a bunch of extensions some ancient X server from 1990 isn't going to have (to include for example OpenGL which didn't even exist yet, back then the thing was PHIGS).
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Beeftweeter posted:funy tech poo poo u just remembered: removable batteries and user-replaceable parts I have a 10 year old T430 Thinkpad as my laptop. Removable battery (I have an extra capacity one), built like a tank, yes you can repair it. With an SSD and a ram upgrade it has lasted me much, much longer than the crappy cheap consumer ones I bought before and its still perfectly usable as a general-use machine. Edit: by which I mean don't try and run any games newer than the original Deus Ex or try and compile WebKit on it. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jun 18, 2024 |
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Beeftweeter posted:funy tech poo poo u just remembered: removable batteries and user-replaceable parts I mean, most of Asus lines still have removable batteries you just have to take the cover off, and have 1-2 M.2 slots and RAM slots. Hell, even the ROG Ally, their little Steamdeck competitor, has a replaceable battery and M.2 drive. But I do miss the original Dell Latitude style with the bays that you could basically hot swap  Remember MXM? Was gonna be all the rage for upgrade-able laptop graphics. Its still around in some Enterprise Servers, but sadly it never caught on well enough...
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Internet Old One posted:
Great song playing there.
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feedmegin posted:Probably not very well. Modern UI toolkits normally expect to be running locally and also normally expect a bunch of extensions some ancient X server from 1990 isn't going to have (to include for example OpenGL which didn't even exist yet, back then the thing was PHIGS). You could maybe do the opposite and run a VM just for the the window manager it uses to decorate X11 windows assuming that it does that. Lol that's so awful.
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trilljester posted:Great song playing there. Yeah i wasn't gonna use the screenshot because most of it was win95 vm but then I saw that. So perfectly idealized 90s.
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feedmegin posted:Probably not very well. Modern UI toolkits normally expect to be running locally and also normally expect a bunch of extensions some ancient X server from 1990 isn't going to have (to include for example OpenGL which didn't even exist yet, back then the thing was PHIGS). lol well i didn't say "without issue" but yeah good call on opengl, i didn't even think of it. kinda funny that we've basically moved past both it and x11 anyway, poor a/ux
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CommieGIR posted:I mean, most of Asus lines still have removable batteries you just have to take the cover off, and have 1-2 M.2 slots and RAM slots. MXM was pretty good, you could upgrade the GPU in your mega beefcake gaming laptop without buying a whole new laptop. Also if (when) the GPU cooked itself to death within the confines of a gaming laptop, you could replace just the GPU instead of the entire motherboard. I'm pretty sure you could get up to 20-series nvidia GPU's on MXM, I know they at least had a 1080ti on MXM, becuase that was the holy grail of the alienware laptop I used to own
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