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eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

the knowledge knower. a wisdom imparter. irritatingly self-assertive. odorous.
reminder: in the late 1980s, it was possible to get VC investment to start a Mac software company

by 1995-6 you couldn’t even get VC to start a software company (which is why getting funding to build an app was the least realistic part of Microserfs)

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

REIGNING YOSPOS COSTCO KING

eschaton posted:

HyperCard ruled except for only supporting 512×342 black & white for way too long and for not having any way to make real Mac apps

they should have also made a Pro version that was project-oriented, let you design windows and menus and stuff against an application framework and write HyperTalk against the Mac Toolbox itself, and save out an app

if that was 1988-9 HyperCard, Visual Basic would have been DOA and Windows 3 would’ve gone nowhere
1990s apple was pretty much "missed opportunities: the motion picture"

Winty
Sep 22, 2007

Oh hell yes. Now we are talking my language. loving around in computer lab and making dumb hypercard games was absolutely the peak of my childhood

Best actual hypercard game: Uncle Fudd's Treasure https://archive.org/details/hypercard_uncle-fudds-treasure

Best example of random bullshit made by a kid that represents what was available on the AOL shareware list at the time: Da Game https://archive.org/details/hypercard_da-game

President Beep
Apr 29, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
drat, is this how yosgoons got into coding? I totally missed the loving boat there. we did computer lab stuff but it was all quotient quest and print shop poo poo.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew, hah? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

President Beep posted:

drat, is this how yosgoons got into coding? I totally missed the loving boat there. we did computer lab stuff but it was all quotient quest and print shop poo poo.

Ti83 BASIC programming for me

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

altid pamo når du går
veje du burd' kende
overleved' barneår
lig' til livets ende

self-taught:
C64 basic -> HyperCard -> TI-82 -> perl

after that, whatever was used at school & work

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



President Beep posted:

drat, is this how yosgoons got into coding? I totally missed the loving boat there. we did computer lab stuff but it was all quotient quest and print shop poo poo.

qbasic mostly messing with it at home on win 3.1 making games. if we had a mac I probably would have loved hypercard because before qb i would draw out elaborate game screens for ideas for games in paint. my dad bought a bog box of cheap diskettes because all the bmps were filling the hdd lol

i think i saved those all off as pngs a decade ago and with compression the whole box fits on a few diskettes

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

ADINSX posted:

Ti83 BASIC programming for me

hello friend

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005


[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP
we would write dumb little porno 'movies' on ti82's. i used the matrix storage for sprite memory. lmao

Mantle
May 15, 2004

There were books in the library that were printouts of programs (games even) that I borrowed and inputted into the BASIC interpreter.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005


[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP
oh god the apple // magazines did that but they ALSO had machine code programs printed out.

i never ever ever once got one to run.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

altid pamo når du går
veje du burd' kende
overleved' barneår
lig' til livets ende

I took out a comal80 book from the library but none of the programs worked on my c64 :(

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

my ti80 story is I had a friend who memorized a quick program that faked a calculator but gave wrong results by a small fraction. it respected things that would mess an eye check like multiplying numbers ending in 5 end in 5 or 0, even vs odd stuff, etc.

If during a class you were not paying attention, he’d swap your calculator with one he put the program in, and then gently caress up all your calculations

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

altid pamo når du går
veje du burd' kende
overleved' barneår
lig' til livets ende

lmao that's devious

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Jonny 290 posted:

oh god the apple // magazines did that but they ALSO had machine code programs printed out.

i never ever ever once got one to run.

pages of mlx in the back of compute! gazette. that one at least would checksum each line so it was harder to mess up.

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Carthag Tuek posted:

self-taught:
C64 basic -> HyperCard -> TI-82 -> perl

after that, whatever was used at school & work

mirc scripting and whatever i could wring out of hl/quake binds in tfc

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Progressive JPEG posted:

mirc scripting

oh yeah, i did a bunch of scripting at one point, too. most of it was, looking back, rudimentary but it was a good experience in learning how to read other peoples' code and understand and modify it for other uses

RobobTheGreat
Jul 14, 2003

Mind your manners when talking to the king!
it was qbasic on the family pc for me as well.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i hosed around with first ti-basic on a ti99-4a. then qbasic. then visual basic. then calculator ti-basic. then perl.

see? basic is a gateway language kids. just say no to computers.

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Jonny 290 posted:

that requires a head-end, and as far as i can tell, there's just no bandwidth in the region. nobody's run fiber to any county central offices b/c they're not spending 79 million bucks to sell broadband to 1000 yokels

Jonny. Please. Come on. Be the change you want to see in the world. Create a localized wifi meshnet that can hop you over to the charter hardline. Collectivize internet access in a remote rural area. You were born to do this.

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Jonny 290 posted:

that requires a head-end, and as far as i can tell, there's just no bandwidth in the region. nobody's run fiber to any county central offices b/c they're not spending 79 million bucks to sell broadband to 1000 yokels

The next town over (iron mountain) does have Charter cable modems, and it's on my radar, but prices are high there. a 2/1 bungalow is almost 50k there vs 35k in my hometown. loving real estate inflation !!!!

so, the fcc has by-census-tract search for the various rural internet programs and it looks like the iron mountain-proximate county has a ftth buildout funded. one of the other programs has a fixed-wireless subsidized lte option for some rural internet areas

they also gave spacex some cash lol

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

eschaton posted:

reminder: in the late 1980s, it was possible to get VC investment to start a Mac software company

by 1995-6 you couldn’t even get VC to start a software company (which is why getting funding to build an app was the least realistic part of Microserfs)

michael sells oop for two billion dollars to microsoft and retires to la to be a nazi full time on social media

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Sep 16, 2003

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my start was basic on the c64 in the 80s but my first real development time sink was "klik and play", this weird engine i never hear anything about these days, it was made to be drag and drop, and it was, but you could script any element, too. i think i found it in a bargain bin around 1995.

https://youtu.be/GYvoBc1qW8Y

lord funk
Feb 16, 2004

i stayed after school in 3rd grade so i could program a logo script that animated

AC / DC

onto the screen, in colors. then did hypercard games through middle school

didn't touch programming again until grad school, and now app sales pay my bills

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I started on Turbo Pascal.

I also never progressed much beyond turbo pascal

I’ve built a few arduino projects tho so I can hella copy code from GitHub and stack exchange.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 9, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.



I have seen just this week a file loader for a billion dollar process written in VBA and submitted to auditors as evidence of...idk what to be honest but if it was me I'd fail it on general principles

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 9 years!)

started with visual c# express 2005 in middle school

that was around the time i first tried linux as well, ubuntu 5.10

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

I have seen just this week a file loader for a billion dollar process written in VBA and submitted to auditors as evidence of...idk what to be honest but if it was me I'd fail it on general principles

Are you auditing shaggar

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
we use SSIS so technically there may be some vba in there somewhere, but it would have been written by MS

ultravoices
May 10, 2004

You are about to embark on a great journey. Are you ready, my friend?
c64, typing programs out of run magazine

there are all sorts of hardly used features in c64 basic which are interesting to think about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBV_ASCLF4w

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

the knowledge knower. a wisdom imparter. irritatingly self-assertive. odorous.
Apple LOGO on the Apple II+

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

the knowledge knower. a wisdom imparter. irritatingly self-assertive. odorous.

PCjr sidecar posted:

michael sells oop for two billion dollars to microsoft and retires to la to be a nazi full time on social media

that was selling a software company, not getting VC to start a software company

I guess AgileBits (1Password) took investment to expand more quickly? but they were already expanding so that’s really investment in a going concern

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

eschaton posted:

that was selling a software company, not getting VC to start a software company

I guess AgileBits (1Password) took investment to expand more quickly? but they were already expanding so that’s really investment in a going concern

it was a notch/minecraft joke, sorry

ultravoices
May 10, 2004

You are about to embark on a great journey. Are you ready, my friend?

eschaton posted:

Apple LOGO on the Apple II+

this too

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

eschaton posted:

Apple LOGO on the Apple II+

Extremely good memories from this one

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005


[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP
the coolest thing my parents ever did was send me to 2 weeks of computer nerd camp at a milwaukee community college and they let us play with logo all day

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 9, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.



logo was the absolute poo poo. I remember getting told to just go do some logo stuff with another kid at school because we'd basically finished the work for that term

iirc we named all our drawing like draw, draw1, draw2, draw1-2 etc. Setting up for a fine career in shameful programming

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

logo was the absolute poo poo. I remember getting told to just go do some logo stuff with another kid at school because we'd basically finished the work for that term

iirc we named all our drawing like draw, draw1, draw2, draw1-2 etc. Setting up for a fine career in shameful programming

look at jon richardson here, too anal to use the Standard Naming Scheme (i.e. asd, asdfa, asfasfsfa, asasfsfsds, etc.)

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 9, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.



3D Megadoodoo posted:

look at jon richardson here, too anal to use the Standard Naming Scheme (i.e. asd, asdfa, asfasfsfa, asasfsfsds, etc.)

I remember seeing Jon Richardson before he hit the big time at a weekly comedy night in a pub in Bristol called The Hatchet but he didn't mention logo at all!!!

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

I remember seeing Jon Richardson before he hit the big time at a weekly comedy night in a pub in Bristol called The Hatchet but he didn't mention logo at all!!!

seriouspost turtles make him anxious

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