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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

iím interesting to hear more about these

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4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


echinopsis posted:

iím interesting to hear more about these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyUmBUUS1w

e: don't be fooled by the orchestral presets, there is plenty of synth sounds as well and the sound engine probably has like 1000+ waveforms to choose from when building your own sound

the only reason nobody ever bothers with making their own patches is that it's quite complicated and tedious

4lokos basilisk fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Apr 12, 2020

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

https://www.scribd.com/doc/97034039/Fantom-Tweakbook-e5

I got a print version of this with a used SonicCell once, great resource

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP
my main problem with the $5,000 eurorack setups is never have i once ever seen a video or heard a song where anybody is doing anything but making random arpeggiated doodles and beep boops with no rhythm or backing tracks. i'm sure its fun to twiddle the knobs but its just a more expensive update of the old 'circuit bent' aesthetic.

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
I guess if you search YouTube for eurorack you will get a lot of beep boop doodling but thats because making music solely with a modular is quite challenging, but there's plenty of people like lightbath, Alan Dear, Emily Sprague, r beny and even Richard Devine who put out vids that sound like regular music.

It's just another instrument though, really. An absolute ton of electronic music uses modular in some capacity, I guess if it's *not* random arpeggiated doodles and beep boops then you just didn't recognise it as modular? Like, I'm going through all the more mainstream electronic artists I like and trying to think of one who doesn't use some sort of modular rig and mostly failing.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

some people seem to think that idea of input setup -> auto song is the purpose of them

like I remember reading somewhere maybe even in this thread that they didn't see the point of getting one and just trying to make it into a unique synthesiser


I have a suspicion that filters and gain are something that really benefit from discrete circuitry. oscillators not so much. but then again I know gently caress all.


one thing I am working out about myself is how much more inspirational my bass station II is compared to say arturia pigments which by all means is a far more capable soft synth. but I think it's the physical nature of the machine. definitely need some knobs to twist

something that had infinite endless knobs with also oled labels etc would be the poo poo. the hydrasynth looks a lot like that but is a real synth



this looks ok. you can get a 4 octave one too but not a 3 octave perfect size one

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Penisface posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyUmBUUS1w

e: don't be fooled by the orchestral presets, there is plenty of synth sounds as well and the sound engine probably has like 1000+ waveforms to choose from when building your own sound

the only reason nobody ever bothers with making their own patches is that it's quite complicated and tedious

poo poo I need to learn to play the piano

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


Jonny 290 posted:

my main problem with the $5,000 eurorack setups is never have i once ever seen a video or heard a song where anybody is doing anything but making random arpeggiated doodles and beep boops with no rhythm or backing tracks. i'm sure its fun to twiddle the knobs but its just a more expensive update of the old 'circuit bent' aesthetic.

problem with eurorack is that if you search for "modular music" you will only get MODULAR music - i.e. guys getting hard while turning the knob of their extremely rare bespoke filter doodads built from soviet nuclear reactor materials. i have been to several modular events and always without fail the best live sets are when a guy with just a couple of modules plays a nice set, followed by increasingly badass racks that devolve into noise, noise and more bespoke noise. i have said it before and will say it again that you probably hear and enjoy music made with modulars quite often - it's just that the musicians don't need to plaster MODULAR MODULAR all over their poo poo because it sounds good as it is anyway

anyhow here is something rare: modular MUSIC https://soundcloud.com/djmag/fresh-kicks-74-ann-annie-live-modular-set

just for clarification when i speak about sound modules i absolutely do not mean eurorack, i am talking about rack versions of regular synths like nord lead, nord modular, yamaha and korg and roland and kawaii and novation even. this gear you can get for $200, they come with insanely sophisticated sound engines and 16 parts with 64 notes polyphony.

none of the demos do it justice but combine this with the evergreen life hack of "there is no such thing as a boring over-used preset if you have effects pedals/plugins" and you are good to go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdPHEMSLM2g&t=387s

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


echinopsis posted:

poo poo I need to learn to play the piano

here's some stuff https://www.pianoscales.org/major.html

but if you want more instant gratification i suggest messing around with an arpeggiator

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

echinopsis posted:

some people seem to think that idea of input setup -> auto song is the purpose of them
I definitely use mine a bit like this, building experiments with bits modulating and sequencing each other with unfathomable feedback loops, just to see what happens. Sometimes you end up with poop, sometimes you end up with gorgeous sounds or wierd organically evolving loops that I couldn't begin to create any other way, not even in software like max/pd/reaktor.

Unless you're incredibly talented or wealthy, building whole pieces of music that aren't either quite minimal or clearly beep-boop noodling is very difficult. I'm not talented or wealthy so the main use for mine is jamming and stumbling across neat sounds or loops that I sample and use to build a proper track in Logic.

Penisface posted:

i have been to several modular events and always without fail the best live sets are when a guy with just a couple of modules plays a nice set, followed by increasingly badass racks that devolve into noise, noise and more bespoke noise.
Same. It's basically a bunch of men with their train sets, except there's a horrible cacophony going on in the background. Less is definitely more.

quote:

anyhow here is something rare: modular MUSIC https://soundcloud.com/djmag/fresh-kicks-74-ann-annie-live-modular-set
Ann Annie is awesome.

there's a ton of good modular music out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uojFtozPynE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltBBMl6tArc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVP5eto4fxs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9utwDDG8aHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWe_7okVXhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFa2JjPxzdM
(4:34 onwards is funky as heck)

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


by the way you can run your own modular in the computer and it's free too https://vcvrack.com/

i have had lots of fun with it and it hooks up nicely into DAWs using the VST bridge plugins it comes with

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Penisface posted:

here's some stuff https://www.pianoscales.org/major.html

but if you want more instant gratification i suggest messing around with an arpeggiator

I've a moderate idea of music theory from decades playing guitar, I mean, I need to learn how to play it. that's just gonna be time tho

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Penisface posted:

by the way you can run your own modular in the computer and it's free too https://vcvrack.com/

i have had lots of fun with it and it hooks up nicely into DAWs using the VST bridge plugins it comes with

sicl thank!

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP
so does like aaaaaaanybody still use reason

i havent heard poo poo about it in years

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
the thing I liked most about reason was the dangly cable physics

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP
big same

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

did they ever simulate brian may style curly cables

my homie dhall
Dec 9, 2010

honey, oh please, it's just a machine

Penisface posted:

by the way you can run your own modular in the computer and it's free too https://vcvrack.com/

i have had lots of fun with it and it hooks up nicely into DAWs using the VST bridge plugins it comes with

just started playin with this and itís fun as heck

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

toiletbrush posted:

the thing I liked most about reason was the dangly cable physics

reaktor blocks has cables and they're the first thing i disable. goddamn things are annoying

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Ploft-shell crab posted:

just started playin with this and itís fun as heck

get the valleys module pack and you can use the topograph to get some sweet rythms with no effort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5yN0N6aTws

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

reaktor blocks has cables and they're the first thing i disable. goddamn things are annoying
I don't get what blocks are for in Reaktor. Is it basically just a nicer ui over a macro?

I wish you could put corners/bends in connections.

my homie dhall
Dec 9, 2010

honey, oh please, it's just a machine

pointsofdata posted:

get the valleys module pack and you can use the topograph to get some sweet rythms with no effort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5yN0N6aTws

oh this is rad, thanks for the rec

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B40AizE6i2g

mylarmelodies explaining 'try to emulate things you like' modular fun much better than I did, should be doable in vcvrack too

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


toiletbrush posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B40AizE6i2g

mylarmelodies explaining 'try to emulate things you like' modular fun much better than I did, should be doable in vcvrack too

that's a good idea

should put it on the list of good ideas i never get around to doing

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



lobby to change thread title to "polyphonic teledildonic aftertouch"

Schindler's Fist
Jul 22, 2004
Weasels! Get 'em off me! Aaaa!

Jonny 290 posted:

so does like aaaaaaanybody still use reason

i havent heard poo poo about it in years

I just bought the upgrade to version 11. The new synths and effects are very good. You can now use VSTís in it. Thereís a Ďplayerí similar to Logicís Drummer that will crank out beats for you. The mix console compressor and EQ can now be used in the rack. Finally, the rack, or lots of racks, can be plugins in your other DAW, as instruments and effects. Itís dope, especially if you have an old version to upgrade for $129.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP

Schindler's Fist posted:

You can now use VSTís in it.

jesus christ it only took nineteen years

nice

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

KoRMaK posted:

lobby to change thread title to "polyphonic teledildonic aftertouch"

what is polyphonic after touch? is it just when the synth registers after touch individually for each key pressed?

my
bass station 2 has after touch itís pretty neat

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP

echinopsis posted:

what is polyphonic after touch? is it just when the synth registers after touch individually for each key pressed?

my
bass station 2 has after touch itís pretty neat

yeah its individual aftertouch for each key

honorary mention for the bass station 2 i saw in a pawn shop with a "BROKEN" sticker and a $20 price tag (im sure it was something stupid like a power jack or 1/4" out) and i skipped it, then came to my senses and went back two days later and it was gone

godspeed, sweet prince

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

aphex twin made some kind of update for it. it originally came out in 2013 and it got a firmware update last year

aphex twin creates some mode where you can set unique patch settings for each key,

itís a loving awesome machine

but I yearn for poly, thankfully can get that thru the pc

Zaxxon
Feb 14, 2004

Wir Tanzen Mekanik
I made one of those KK slider versions of an already known song. It was kinda fun to do

https://soundcloud.com/void-star-1/kk-slider-the-kick-inside

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



here's something i've been working on. i hosed up the third verse while streaming but thats ok, i can fix it in editing
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/585570136

my goal is to get the midi data recorded and then start finding the actual synths I want. I'm not thrilled with the lead synth, it's just a stand-in, but I do know the key and melody that I want at it's core so I figure I get that down and then start swapping in software synths and changing settings until I find something permanent

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



echinopsis posted:

what is polyphonic after touch? is it just when the synth registers after touch individually for each key pressed?

my
bass station 2 has after touch itís pretty neat
its when you can change the velocity of your polyphonic teledildonic array after the initial key input, op. the launchpad pro has it, as well as a bunch of different synths. a lot of synths only had channel aftertouch for a long time, in fact i think poly after is still hard to find.

i recently came across this channel and it's good. seems to be a step up from 8bit guy/8bit keys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNaMv9CAuPg

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Apr 25, 2020

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


this week and last i have started to play around with drums. i got a yamaha dtx12m pad thing a while back but now it is flashed with new firmware and i also got some proper kits on it thanks to yamaha offering them free for download

https://soundcloud.com/trent-hawkins/fri-24-apr

i am happy with the overall sound but the "solo" could be better and some things bug me with the mix but it's a record as I have never made such a short track

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
your stuff sounds like proper music

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

The Game is Never Over
anyone use OpenMPT? I used Modplug Tracker way back in the day when I was more serious about music. It has VST plugin support so I guess I have a frontend for Munt and Dexed now

I wish I'd stuck with making music longer. I am having a much harder time getting back into it than I'd like

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



I just ordered a launchkey mini. I am excited to play with it!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

good poo poo my friend!

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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id rather have four little 2 octave controllers with pads and knobs than some big fuckoff 88 key that i wouldnt be able to Play play anyways

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

The Game is Never Over
I got the monoprice 606304. seems nice enough

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