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Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Beamed posted:

i ride the bus to and from the cbd in detroit

i normally take the bus here, but i've stopped due to the virus. are you concerned about catching it like that driver did?

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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP

Broken Machine posted:

but there are also farmers in rural areas driving around to help feed urbanites so that they don't have to

modern 'farmers' are cosplaying and there is no reason for them to dress up in overalls and sit in an air conditioned $385k combine while it runs its GPS tracks.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


President Beep posted:

nice. what do you think of the woodward light rail line? i recall that getting thwarted for years. jelly that we don't have anything like that on the west side of the state. i'm sure i've mentioned this before, but the street we live on did have a streetcar line in the past.
it takes me 45 minutes to go 3.5 miles.

it's a disaster in every definition of the word and has set detroit back at least a decade in terms of actually investing in public infrastructure.

Broken Machine posted:

i normally take the bus here, but i've stopped due to the virus. are you concerned about catching it like that driver did?

lol i stopped when wfh began, but it's still running routinely, just on sat. schedule.

i'd still take it to grocery shop if i weren't a type 1d and so i guess at risk

President Beep
Apr 29, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Beamed posted:

it takes me 45 minutes to go 3.5 miles.

it's a disaster in every definition of the word and has set detroit back at least a decade in terms of actually investing in public infrastructure.

lol. gently caress!

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


apparently, an unnamed member of the group who happens to be a billionaire wanted it to run on the side of the road to help improve real estate prices. no clue who

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


someone brought up investing in brt and the answer was "rich white people dont ride buses"

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
The IHME projections that Trump and co keep touting are so incredibly stupid. They have uncertainties that decrease with time, which is such obvious horseshit. It looks like they just have some simple model that predicts what the mean number of deaths per day is then applies a static percentage uncertainty to each number, so as you get to smaller numbers over time the uncertainties get really small too, which is just flat out wrong and not how you apply the uncertainties at all. The error is cumulative per day and so if you're uncertain at the beginning, you're going to be way off at the end.

The correct thing to do, if you don't want to do any math, is to just do a monte-carlo, but that is very clearly not what they did. Why do I even do my job when I could apparently get away with pulling poo poo like this.

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

Stereotype posted:

The IHME projections that Trump and co keep touting are so incredibly stupid. They have uncertainties that decrease with time, which is such obvious horseshit. It looks like they just have some simple model that predicts what the mean number of deaths per day is then applies a static percentage uncertainty to each number, so as you get to smaller numbers over time the uncertainties get really small too, which is just flat out wrong and not how you apply the uncertainties at all. The error is cumulative per day and so if you're uncertain at the beginning, you're going to be way off at the end.

The correct thing to do, if you don't want to do any math, is to just do a monte-carlo, but that is very clearly not what they did. Why do I even do my job when I could apparently get away with pulling poo poo like this.
The purpose of these models isn't to inform or be accurate hth

fivehead
Jul 11, 2017

Americans Need Cash Now

Salt Fish posted:

I hate cars and I especially hate hearing people explain why they have to have one. "Well you see my house is 40 miles from my job, so it's impossible to get rid of it". Like.. I know you make 250,000 and I know there are apartments right here in downtown DC.

how do I make 250,000 in DC? Do I have to give up touching computers?

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat

President Beep posted:

lol. gently caress!

yeah that rail is loving stupid

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Make Deer Great Again
Cybernetic Crumb

fivehead posted:

how do I make 250,000 in DC? Do I have to give up touching computers?

You have to touch computers juussst right. And secretly. Shhh... don't tell anyone.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

ShadowHawk posted:

The purpose of these models isn't to inform or be accurate hth

I wish my job could be to make poo poo up to justify whatever instead of the opposite of that.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

Official Carrier of the Neil Bush Torch

Stereotype posted:

I wish my job could be to make poo poo up to justify whatever instead of the opposite of that.

go into adtech imo

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
I was going to respond earlier with my usual pointless anecdotes about cars and instead I went outside and my wife was very upset because our 18 month old had walked down to the street while she had her back turned and almost got run over.

like 3 steps into the other lane and would have gotten clobbered by a tow truck that didn’t even slow down. Sometimes you just get lucky. And no more toddlers in the front yard without eyes on, they move faster than you think

so at least for today rotor, you changed my mind a bit 😁

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

Official Carrier of the Neil Bush Torch

Hed posted:

I was going to respond earlier with my usual pointless anecdotes about cars and instead I went outside and my wife was very upset because our 18 month old had walked down to the street while she had her back turned and almost got run over.

like 3 steps into the other lane and would have gotten clobbered by a tow truck that didn’t even slow down. Sometimes you just get lucky. And no more toddlers in the front yard without eyes on, they move faster than you think

so at least for today rotor, you changed my mind a bit 😁

this is exactly the poo poo i'm talkin about.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
One part of my job is actually to just make things up. I find a problem in a giant list of problems, look into how people are doing it now, think about how we can leverage what we do very well in a way that might be able to solve it, and then write a 15 page proposal about why the government should give me and my team money to try it out. The second part isn't about making things up though, it is about seeing if my crackpot idea can be a real thing and pouring over data that I've lost countless nights collecting to see if I'm just chasing a ghost. I have one grant that I'm pretty confident isn't going to work, and I'm going to have to flatly say that to our funding agency because I'm not a monster and I actually want to solve problems. I don't want to waste my life making things up just so I can make a fancy widget that is worse than the current one, I want to actually solve the problems that no one else has been able to solve. My boss is going to fight me; maybe if we phrase it correctly it will seem like there is still a chance; because he will want the additional funding to just keep trying, even though it isn't ever going to work.

Apparently there is way more money that can be gotten much easier by just lying and solving nothing and making the world empirically worse off. It's honestly depressing as hell.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

Official Carrier of the Neil Bush Torch
grant writing is super hard

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
lying to strangers is fun, though

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
great idea for an app to write during lockdown : it sends dick picks but also makes the phone smell like the dudes dick

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

Hed posted:

I was going to respond earlier with my usual pointless anecdotes about cars and instead I went outside and my wife was very upset because our 18 month old had walked down to the street while she had her back turned and almost got run over.

like 3 steps into the other lane and would have gotten clobbered by a tow truck that didn’t even slow down. Sometimes you just get lucky. And no more toddlers in the front yard without eyes on, they move faster than you think

so at least for today rotor, you changed my mind a bit 😁

mine (16 m/o) managed to almost tip a bookcase on himself yesterday in similar circumstances.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
Is 11pm too late to be sauteeing cabbage

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
im extremely gay and did more baking instead of work today


Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

got contactless beer delivery from the essential brewer, in time for the 4 day easter weekend woop

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Make Deer Great Again
Cybernetic Crumb
Some part of my brain is glitching out and making me shop for expensive poo poo I don't need. Booze, thousand dollar bongs, VR setups, computer parts, bike parts, guitars. I think capitalism wired my brain to just compulsively buy poo poo when I'm bored or lonely and the quarantine is making it super obvious. I haven't bought anything yet but it's becoming more and more noticeable.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] me about OS/2 WARP

Salt Fish posted:

Some part of my brain is glitching out and making me shop for expensive poo poo I don't need. Booze, thousand dollar bongs, VR setups, computer parts, bike parts, guitars. I think capitalism wired my brain to just compulsively buy poo poo when I'm bored or lonely and the quarantine is making it super obvious. I haven't bought anything yet but it's becoming more and more noticeable.

big loving mood here

so far i have also held back and only bought a couple frivolous things. but i also got a raise and a retro check last month so its super burning a hole in my pocket

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

by Pragmatica

(and can't post for 14 days!)

Slippery Tilde
y'all can probably scratch that itch with the pyf recent purchases thread

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER
If you recovered from Coronavirus your blood plasma is incredibly valuable right now as it can actively treat the disease: https://www.redcrossblood.org/content/redcrossblood/en/donate-blood/dlp/plasma-donations-from-recovered-covid-19-patients.html

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Methanar posted:

Is 11pm too late to be sauteeing cabbage

time means nothing

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

President Beep posted:

i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
they’re after the wrong president!!

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Hed posted:

I was going to respond earlier with my usual pointless anecdotes about cars and instead I went outside and my wife was very upset because our 18 month old had walked down to the street while she had her back turned and almost got run over.

like 3 steps into the other lane and would have gotten clobbered by a tow truck that didn’t even slow down. Sometimes you just get lucky. And no more toddlers in the front yard without eyes on, they move faster than you think

so at least for today rotor, you changed my mind a bit 😁

i have no lower opinion than people who speed in residential neighborhoods. just pure unadulterated selfishness and ignorance

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

PIZZA.BAT posted:

i have no lower opinion than people who speed in residential neighborhoods. just pure unadulterated selfishness and ignorance
https://twitter.com/dreambote/status/1119670501117325312?s=21

President Beep
Apr 29, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

PIZZA.BAT posted:

i have no lower opinion than people who speed in residential neighborhoods. just pure unadulterated selfishness and ignorance

i agree with this.

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

Jonny 290 posted:

modern 'farmers' are cosplaying and there is no reason for them to dress up in overalls and sit in an air conditioned $385k combine while it runs its GPS tracks.

The family-owned farm I know has the farmer doing the following (they're 3 relatives, no employees, only family members helping):

- beef production (that's their main gig)
- got like half a dozen fields for different cereals and crops; they try to grow human-grade crops, but if the harvest is too bad, it becomes food for the cows
- does some beekeeping and produces honey (and maple syrup!) on the side
- is the local union rep for the union

Essentially the mechanization just meant that rather than spending all his days tilling fields, he's now doing the work that many farms would have done before, for a similar amount of money. So while he's in the automated combine, he essentially reads agronomy papers, and participates in the farmers' equivalent of a stock market where they auction off/buy veal, cows & bucks, and various cereal futures (if it's worth his while to sell the crops and buy cheaper elsewhere), or handles the farm's finances.

Then the rest of the spare time will include: drying grain, fixing equipment, dealing with the agronomy specialists and the related tasks (fertilizers, vaccinations, herbicides and pesticides), health tracking (and syncing with various veterinarians) and reproduction of his cows (tracking genetics, traveling with bucks to keep them diverse but in-line), and handling all of the related poo poo and maintenance.

The thing he keeps saying (I offered to volunteer some farmhand time about a year ago) is "we don't need more people, we need money for more machinery", even if dude still works anywhere between 60-80 hours a week, more when frost is about to arrive and they gotta do everything now. He needs more fancy equipment and probably ways to turn his propane heating (and grain dryer) to a bio-gas generator since he'd avoid a lot of overheads there.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

america has a permanent mental image of a "farmer" as a folger's commercial white guy in his 50s with wrinkled tan skin and piercing eyes who does stuff like kneel down and hand inspect small piles of harvested grain by rubbing them between his leathery hands and slowly smelling them

syntaxrigger
Jul 6, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

MononcQc posted:

The family-owned farm I know has the farmer doing the following (they're 3 relatives, no employees, only family members helping):

- beef production (that's their main gig)
- got like half a dozen fields for different cereals and crops; they try to grow human-grade crops, but if the harvest is too bad, it becomes food for the cows
- does some beekeeping and produces honey (and maple syrup!) on the side
- is the local union rep for the union

Essentially the mechanization just meant that rather than spending all his days tilling fields, he's now doing the work that many farms would have done before, for a similar amount of money. So while he's in the automated combine, he essentially reads agronomy papers, and participates in the farmers' equivalent of a stock market where they auction off/buy veal, cows & bucks, and various cereal futures (if it's worth his while to sell the crops and buy cheaper elsewhere), or handles the farm's finances.

Then the rest of the spare time will include: drying grain, fixing equipment, dealing with the agronomy specialists and the related tasks (fertilizers, vaccinations, herbicides and pesticides), health tracking (and syncing with various veterinarians) and reproduction of his cows (tracking genetics, traveling with bucks to keep them diverse but in-line), and handling all of the related poo poo and maintenance.

The thing he keeps saying (I offered to volunteer some farmhand time about a year ago) is "we don't need more people, we need money for more machinery", even if dude still works anywhere between 60-80 hours a week, more when frost is about to arrive and they gotta do everything now. He needs more fancy equipment and probably ways to turn his propane heating (and grain dryer) to a bio-gas generator since he'd avoid a lot of overheads there.

I wonder how many missed opportunities to utilize waste or minimize overhead, like the bio-gas generator, there are in the typical farming setup. I wonder fully utilized min/maxed out setup would look like and what the optimum size would be?

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 14, 2007

Fun Shoe
farmers tend to be going for the max side of things which is also part of the problem ime

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


just finished the last major piece of work i had. all i have now is a few reports to type up, maybe ten pages total, by the end of the month. after that i'm hanging in the air

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
goddammit Bernie

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

unpacked robinhood posted:

goddammit Bernie

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
:rip:

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