yospos coronavirus wfh thread year 5 - working all day just isn't right

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

mediaphage posted:

zero surprise there

i couldn't be bothered to actually watch it because it would just make me too mad lol

anything worthwhile would get soundbited out anyway

The best synopsis of this dumb party I"ve ever seen is that it is run by ancient ghouls who were so traumatized by the rise of Reaganism that they cannot imagine any sort of policy that works besides Third Way appeasement of the right, no matter how hard anyone under fifty yells 'DO THIS AND WE'LL VOTE FOR YOU!'

By the time this party manages to purge these loving morons and put people with a stake in the future in place they'll be electorally irrelevant anyway since the GOP will have the power to throw out elections they don't like in all the states that matter.

# ? Mar 2, 2022 15:08

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# ? Jan 19, 2025 09:26

President Beep: Apr 29, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

By the time this party manages to purge these loving morons

i.e. never

# ? Mar 2, 2022 15:53

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

knox_harrington posted:

I think I might just hate working

# ? Mar 2, 2022 16:48

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

The best synopsis of this dumb party I"ve ever seen is that it is run by ancient ghouls who were so traumatized by the rise of Reaganism that they cannot imagine any sort of policy that works besides Third Way appeasement of the right, no matter how hard anyone under fifty yells 'DO THIS AND WE'LL VOTE FOR YOU!'

By the time this party manages to purge these loving morons and put people with a stake in the future in place they'll be electorally irrelevant anyway since the GOP will have the power to throw out elections they don't like in all the states that matter.

the party IS those morons. sorry.

# ? Mar 2, 2022 16:48

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

Feisty-Cadaver posted:

sources say we may go into a city-wide lockdown in the near future, lol (with 1/7th of the population exempt as essential).

went to the store and got more TP at least; p much half the shelves were empty.

my usual veggie lady in the market has been gone since last saturday, I fear she may have caught the rona

?? where do you live

# ? Mar 2, 2022 16:49

4lokos basilisk: Jul 17, 2008

post hole digger posted:

?? where do you live

hong kong if my excel is up to date

# ? Mar 2, 2022 16:57

big shtick energy: May 27, 2004

they just announced that we are returning to office (for 3 days per week) in april

we are already suffering massive attrition among our most effective and senior people, and I've got to imagine that RTO is going to make that worse, since I've been seriously considering joining that attrition (not that I'm particularly senior or effective)

on the other hand leaving BigTech after years is scary. also I've barely written a line of code in months since I've mostly been a pseudo project manager so I guess I have to grind out some coding exercises. but I definitely want to see if I can get out without taking a paycut so I'm gonna see what's out there.

# ? Mar 2, 2022 19:26

Corla Plankun: May 8, 2007; improve the lives of everyone

if you don't want to move it seems like there's room in the senior ranks to build your resume and do more coding?

# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:21

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

DuckConference posted:

they just announced that we are returning to office (for 3 days per week) in april

Ah, just in time for everything to go apeshit after a few elapsed weeks of dropped NPIs.

You know, like we've done four or so times before.

# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:29

big shtick energy: May 27, 2004

Corla Plankun posted:

if you don't want to move it seems like there's room in the senior ranks to build your resume and do more coding?

only if I'm in the office 3x a week, which means either not living where I want to live or dealing with a long-rear end commute

# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:44

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

mediaphage posted:

this is a silly take, the real point despite what some managers might think is that home air quality sucks and you can improve it if you want

Yeah. For example my home air is really nice and I will stab the fool who makes me go back to the office.

Do not be that fool.

Also I am in the same city with a 20 min car commute.

I will never come into the office.

Never.

Ever

EVER.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 07:48

knox_harrington: Feb 18, 2011; Running no point.

the hyper pedantic French woman I work with suggested we have as a "leadership goal" a specified rate of office attendance as an annual objective. Fortunately the rest of the call immediately said "uh, no".

# ? Mar 3, 2022 08:20

ShadowHawk: Jun 25, 2000; CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

DuckConference posted:

they just announced that we are returning to office (for 3 days per week) in april

we are already suffering massive attrition among our most effective and senior people, and I've got to imagine that RTO is going to make that worse, since I've been seriously considering joining that attrition (not that I'm particularly senior or effective)

on the other hand leaving BigTech after years is scary. also I've barely written a line of code in months since I've mostly been a pseudo project manager so I guess I have to grind out some coding exercises. but I definitely want to see if I can get out without taking a paycut so I'm gonna see what's out there.

I learned this week that a couple of my immediate teammates had switched to permaremote and up until now it seemed implied it wasn't really an option without transferring to another team.

You may have more success issuing an ultimatum than you realize

# ? Mar 3, 2022 10:23

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

we're permanent wfh here with office work purely as an opt in

it's neat living in a developed nation

# ? Mar 3, 2022 10:41

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

we've been doing 1 day per week in the office but they just announced that starting next week masking is optional

# ? Mar 3, 2022 15:14

The Fool: Oct 16, 2003

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

Yeah. For example my home air is really nice and I will stab the fool who makes me go back to the office.

Do not be that fool.

Also I am in the same city with a 20 min car commute.

I will never come into the office.

Never.

Ever

EVER.

I wouldn't do that to you

# ? Mar 3, 2022 15:44

President Beep: Apr 29, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

ngl, i�m thibking about doing it

# ? Mar 3, 2022 18:51

barkbell: Apr 14, 2006; woof

i work from the office, my _home_ office haha

# ? Mar 3, 2022 19:29

Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

barkbell posted:

i work from the office, my _home_ office haha

# ? Mar 3, 2022 19:31

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; Official Carrier of the Neil Bush Torch

I'm thinkin about heading into the office for a day or two.

Never goin back on the regular but itd be nice to talk to humans face to face again for a lil bit.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 20:59

Gnossiennes: Jan 7, 2013; Loving chairs more every day!

lmao my work clarified that masking is also optional for everyone, no matter the vaccination status. extremely motivated to return 2 office now

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:06

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

rotor posted:

Never goin back on the regular

i am never going back to an office on a monday, ever

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:08

4lokos basilisk: Jul 17, 2008

i am pretty sure that if covid does "go away", then neither "i will keep wearing masks" and "i will never go back to the office" will last a very long time

i am hopeful about the never going back to the office part though. it just feels like the massive megacorps that most people work for can't/won't handle wfh and so the industry standard devolves back to open plan hellscape no matter how clearly the writing has been on the wall for the last 2 years

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:16

Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

im probably gonna schedule a work trip next month. part of my agreement to go remote was that id come up for a week per quarter. nobody's gonna hold me to it probably, but it'd be nice to see some humans that im not related to in person

unless theres a spring break surge or w/e of course

sometimes i worry that by going fully remote i put a target on my back in a way thatll only be apparent once everyone else is back in the office, but i think that's just being paranoid. my boss is cool and i dont REALLY see that being a problem. and of course if it is well i guess there's a lot of jobs out there

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:20

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Penisface posted:

i am pretty sure that if covid does "go away", then neither "i will keep wearing masks" and "i will never go back to the office" will last a very long time

i am hopeful about the never going back to the office part though. it just feels like the massive megacorps that most people work for can't/won't handle wfh and so the industry standard devolves back to open plan hellscape no matter how clearly the writing has been on the wall for the last 2 years

Covid "went away" as of Tuesday's SotU address.

I mean, January and February were the third and fifth deadliest months of this pandemic, but if you just hope hard enough anything is possible.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:35

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Achmed Jones posted:

sometimes i worry that by going fully remote i put a target on my back in a way thatll only be apparent once everyone else is back in the office, but i think that's just being paranoid. my boss is cool and i dont REALLY see that being a problem. and of course if it is well i guess there's a lot of jobs out there

This is the strongest market for labor in your lifetime or mine, if your job wants to push you back into the office tell them to eat poo poo and get a new job. it really is that easy right now.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:36

tk: Dec 10, 2003; Nap Ghost

I have done extensive research on the topic (talked to a few people) and if companies want people in the office they're going to have to figure out a way for everybody's commute to be < 15 minutes.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:41

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

rotor posted:

I'm thinkin about heading into the office for a day or two.

Never goin back on the regular but itd be nice to talk to humans face to face again for a lil bit.

same. im slowly becoming officepilled. "maybe itd be good to get out of the house a few days a week again". this is my havana snydrome. nefarious forces are at work here.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:42

Asleep Style: Oct 20, 2010

tk posted:

I have done extensive research on the topic (talked to a few people) and if companies want people in the office they're going to have to figure out a way for everybody's commute to be < 15 minutes.

good news, this can be done. it's called work from home

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:42

Truman Peyote: Oct 11, 2006

my company's office has been """open""" for months but it's on a fully voluntary basis so nobody has been going in. day after day this slack bot announces that there will be zero people in the office tomorrow. the office manager is in there once a week, occasionally one or two others when their buildings are getting plumbing repairs or whatever. I wouldn't mind getting out of my lovely apartment once a week or whatever but there's no point.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:46

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

so when do we close this thread now that coronavirus wfh is over

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:46

KirbyKhan: Mar 20, 2009; I purchased and 100%'d Huniecam so quickly that I still get friends shaming me over it. And I deserve to be shamed. But I did not praise the game. I called it fucked up. That's how fucked up it is: it's up there with Princess Maker as far as poster body counts.; Soiled Meat

My wife got in to her data analytics computer touching job to fill 6 openings, she was the only one onboarded, labor requirements still require like 14 people in a shop manned by 6. There is no direct supervisor, or department manager. It just goes trainee ---> ??? ----> shared email box ----> CFO or some poo poo.

It is hollowed the gently caress out and this era of HR professionals are unable to fill manning documents due to ideology. I hope by the time my computer touching bootcamp is done the need for people is great enough to get my rear end hired someplace.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:50

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

i like to hate on office time but i do miss clear work/home divisions and it puts you in a professional/work headspace i can�t really get into at home, even when i put on pants.

i think 2-3 days a week in the office is a doable, sane thing, but I am not getting covid so it isn�t happening this month. before covid i was only coming into the office 3 days a week anyway

EIDE Van Hagar fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 3, 2022

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:53

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

I spend more time nowadays offering SME interpretations than I do actually doing development and I can do that poo poo from anywhere so the office can eat my balls

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:57

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

KirbyKhan posted:

It is hollowed the gently caress out and this era of HR professionals are unable to fill manning documents due to ideology. I hope by the time my computer touching bootcamp is done the need for people is great enough to get my rear end hired someplace.

if you�re in a bootcamp, do they have internships or work experience stuff? it�s a good time to get hired right now, and internships can open a lot of doors because hiring someone who already got hired somewhere to do the thing you want is almost always a safe move.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 21:59

tk: Dec 10, 2003; Nap Ghost

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

i like to hate on office time but i do miss clear work/home divisions and it puts you in a professional/work headspace i can�t really get into at home, even when i put on pants.

i think 2-3 days a week in the office is a doable, sane thing, but I am not getting so it isn�t happening this month. before covid i was only coming into the office 3 days a week anyway

I'm already on 4 this week, and I'll probably come in tomorrow too.

Planned on doing 3 then taking it easy Thurs/Fri but I woke up this morning and didn't want to think about work at home so just came in.

But I also live really close by, have my own office, and nobody is forcing me to come in if I don't want to.

# ? Mar 3, 2022 22:00

Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

i like to hate on office time but i do miss clear work/home divisions and it puts you in a professional/work headspace i can�t really get into at home, even when i put on pants.

i think 2-3 days a week in the office is a doable, sane thing, but I am not getting so it isn�t happening this month. before covid i was only coming into the office 3 days a week anyway

yeah same. i'd be all about going into the office if my commute were <15 minutes by foot or public transit and there weren't a pandemic on. but given where i moved, that kind of commute is never gonna happen so i'm wfh at least until the house is paid off

# ? Mar 3, 2022 22:01