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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.



EasilyConfused posted:

And most American socialists apparently can't grasp the concept of cooperating with people in the areas they agree with and opposing them in the areas they don't.

IMO this obsession with doctrinal purity is one of the most overlooked reasons for the setbacks of the American left after the end of the Cold War.

Edit: For the record, I've literally never met a liberal who hates socialists more than fascists and I've been a socialist for decades.

ok boomer

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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

This is an accurate representation of my current level of enjoyment.


EasilyConfused posted:

And most American socialists apparently can't grasp the concept of cooperating with people in the areas they agree with and opposing them in the areas they don't.

IMO this obsession with doctrinal purity is one of the most overlooked reasons for the setbacks of the American left after the end of the Cold War.

Edit: For the record, I've literally never met a liberal who hates socialists more than fascists and I've been a socialist for decades.

lmao

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009

Baby's first avatar


T-man posted:

ok boomer

Walked into that one, but I'm still in my thirties. I just got involved in politics really young.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.


CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!


Ummm I donít think itís purity if the people you are asked to work with support literally nothing you do.

Which is kind of a Bidenís whole brand.

Itís also why this election is breaking so many libs they are effortlessly sliding right going so far as abandon the few good positions they had.

Like rape is bad

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

2:35 PM, 5 April 2017. 153 decibels. Caused the cat actual harm.




christmas boots posted:

This whole discussion sent me on a whirlwind of looking up pirate stuff, and apparently that flag design might actually be a 20th century anachronism. At least this page claims that it's earliest appearance was in a book from 1912, whereas an illustration from a 1736 reprinting of A General History of the Pyrates shows his ship with the more traditional skull and bones.

https://www.qaronline.org/blog/2017...lackbeards-flag

Well I trust the gift shops on Ocracoke Island more than I trust some "historyman".

(that is good to know, though, thank you.)

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos


Mak0rz posted:

Specifically it means "guy who is not a shithead to women" as far as I can tell

Can we try to keep this one to mean "short for simpleton"? I'm seriously loving sick of nazis taking all the good insults.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

Like a bull in a china shop.

Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


EasilyConfused posted:

Edit: For the record, I've literally never met a liberal who hates socialists more than fascists and I've been a socialist for decades.

To clarify this one, because I think you're sort of misunderstanding what someone means when they say this, this is more referring to those people who, sure, nominally hate fascism and fascist tendencies more, and maybe they do, but they sure speak out a whole lot more often against the socialists they supposedly aren't that heavily in disagreement with.

So, 'more' as in 'more often', not as in 'harder'. You actually see it a whole lot in Australian politics, where it seems like a sect of the center-left Labor party and their supporters pull the knives out about the further-left Greens a whole lot more readily than they do against the parties that actually oppose them.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.



EasilyConfused posted:

And most American socialists apparently can't grasp the concept of cooperating with people in the areas they agree with and opposing them in the areas they don't.

IMO this obsession with doctrinal purity is one of the most overlooked reasons for the setbacks of the American left after the end of the Cold War.

Edit: For the record, I've literally never met a liberal who hates socialists more than fascists and I've been a socialist for decades.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U

Agrinja
Nov 30, 2013

Praise the Sun!


Total Clam

I don't think it's ever meant that. In common use, I mean. I thought people did mean simpletons when I first heard it.

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009

Baby's first avatar


Cleretic posted:

To clarify this one, because I think you're sort of misunderstanding what someone means when they say this, this is more referring to those people who, sure, nominally hate fascism and fascist tendencies more, and maybe they do, but they sure speak out a whole lot more often against the socialists they supposedly aren't that heavily in disagreement with.

So, 'more' as in 'more often', not as in 'harder'. You actually see it a whole lot in Australian politics, where it seems like a sect of the center-left Labor party and their supporters pull the knives out about the further-left Greens a whole lot more readily than they do against the parties that actually oppose them.

Yeah, I may have read too much into what they were saying, thanks for the clarification.

Honestly, some of the most bitter disagreements I've experienced have been among socialist groups (DSA versus WP versus CPUSA, etc. etc.).

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Jozy loves scoring like a fat kid loves eating cake.



Cleretic posted:

To clarify this one, because I think you're sort of misunderstanding what someone means when they say this, this is more referring to those people who, sure, nominally hate fascism and fascist tendencies more, and maybe they do, but they sure speak out a whole lot more often against the socialists they supposedly aren't that heavily in disagreement with.

So, 'more' as in 'more often', not as in 'harder'. You actually see it a whole lot in Australian politics, where it seems like a sect of the center-left Labor party and their supporters pull the knives out about the further-left Greens a whole lot more readily than they do against the parties that actually oppose them.

It may be more useful to use an example.

Like, for instance, the Democratic Party pulling out all the stops and doing all the ratfucking you can imagine, including literally sending their volunteers and voters out to die by refusing to postpone primaries for Covid-19, in order to sabotage the candidacy of the "socialist" who would actually try to solve America's problems, in order to line up behind a dementia-addled neoliberal who will lose to Trump in November, because they would rather have four more years of wannabe-fascism than let a socialist become the head of their party.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009





EasilyConfused posted:

Yeah, I may have read too much into what they were saying, thanks for the clarification.

Honestly, some of the most bitter disagreements I've experienced have been among socialist groups (DSA versus WP versus CPUSA, etc. etc.).

Splitters

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012




Just wanna come back to this for a second. While he was complaining about ad hominem attacks against him he and other Amazon execs were creating a narrative that the main strike organizer, Chris Smalls, "isn't smart or articulate". I know this happens all the time but I'm savoring the irony.

Edit: Whoops forgot to post the link. https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ate-leaked-memo

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






Lmao, Black Hebrew Israelites are such a trip. I heard my mom listening to some video about a guy roping flat earth together with their whole credo from a Mark Sargent video he watched. I tune that out because gently caress that nonsense, but god, someone on here was saying that if you believe in one conspiracy theory you'll believe anything and that was the most apt thing about this whole trainwreck. They keep talking about God coming and wiping out all the Edomites and I can't imagine they'd be happy if that actually did happen, because then who could they be contrarian against on every topic?

From the part I had overheard they might be convinced that space isn't real because the sun being 93 million miles is absurd. Also I think I heard one part about the sun revolving around the Earth.

I wish there was a thread about them on here, every time the topic shifts to them in a thread it's always fun to read. I'm sure as hell not about to watch one of their boring rear end videos now or ever. I can't wait to hear about gravity not existing in a month, with the rate this is going now.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008




Buglord

Mak0rz posted:

Specifically it means "guy who is not a shithead to women" as far as I can tell

I was under the impression that it was a new term for "nice guys".

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018




Fister Roboto posted:

I was under the impression that it was a new term for "nice guys".

It seems to share some DNA with "white knight" in that it only makes sense if you think of relationships as transactions.

Picnic Princess
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die




Fister Roboto posted:

I was under the impression that it was a new term for "nice guys".

It's a term for nice guys used by Nice Guys.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Bleak Gremlin

https://twitter.com/DatbitchRhonda/...380380758347776



Getting loving dragged in the comments.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Hence, nothing remains except our regrets.



Lipstick Apathy


Did she dig that gun up from a river somewhere?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Bleak Gremlin

Midnight Voyager posted:

Did she dig that gun up from a river somewhere?

Yeah maybe the River Somme

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

The Jellicle Moon is shining bright


Nuebot posted:

Basically. I've been hearing it since before "cuck" took off in some parts of the internet, but the same people who used cuck all the time have taken hold of it now and are saying it all over the place so it's just become another word to mean "person I don't like."

Is "every woman I've dated does amateur pornography" an actual problem anyone really has or is this just Internet misogynists projecting really hard as usual?

Untrustable
Mar 16, 2009








Someone get Cyrano in here. I cannot for the life of me identify that gun and it's driving me insane.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Bleak Gremlin

I thought it was a Webley but the area around the top of the yoke doesn't look right.

Memento has a new favorite as of 08:12 on Apr 3, 2020

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019







Untrustable posted:

Someone get Cyrano in here. I cannot for the life of me identify that gun and it's driving me insane.

It's a Magnum PI.

Untrustable
Mar 16, 2009







Memento posted:

I thought it was a Webley but the area around the top of the yoke doesn't look right.

I'm leaning towards Webley Mark IV that has had it's top break hinge repaired. Weird looking revolvers. I kinda want one. Big rear end bore so probably chambered in .455 putting it at late 1800s through WW1. But as Levar Burton always said, "don't take my word for it".

sugar mouse
Oct 17, 2006



Picnic Princess
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die




I kind of figured antivaxxers would lead to the downfall of society but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. I thought I had another good decade or more.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019







sugar mouse
Oct 17, 2006



Oh also I looked on my Amazon today and it had some interesting suggestions to read...



I'm the communist vampire.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013



TinTower posted:

Because a black person taking out a gun when being arrested by the police always ends well:

https://twitter.com/AnarchyDotGov/s...768568022667269

Some much needed good news about that case.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...harged-11967745

KennyMan666
May 27, 2010

The Saga



Hihohe posted:

We need a pirate version of because they just Shanghai'd this thread


I don't know why I felt a need to make that

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




I'm glad she got off, but this is a statement only a cop or prosecutor would ever say, and a good chunk of them would still be smart enough not to say it.

quote:

It is highly unusual that a case can pass through a number of controls in the criminal justice process and fail in this way.

Credit to British police though, if this happened in America and she wasn't shot, she still probably would have died in police custody.

Skwirl has a new favorite as of 11:57 on Apr 3, 2020

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007



Skwirl posted:

Credit to British police though, if this happened in America and she wasn't shot, she still probably would have died in police custody.

Yeah, I was just thinking that: so kind of the British police to not stage her suicide to cover their mistake.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm not a hero...





disaster pastor posted:

Yeah, I was just thinking that: so kind of the British police to not stage her suicide to cover their mistake.

They do that in the streets, not in the jails.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011






Muldoon

love 2 demonize the terrifying brown hordes to protect our women and children while never uttering a word against ideologically aligned child rapists such as the president of the us of a

Zulily Zoetrope has a new favorite as of 13:09 on Apr 3, 2020

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004


Untrustable posted:

I'm leaning towards Webley Mark IV that has had it's top break hinge repaired. Weird looking revolvers. I kinda want one. Big rear end bore so probably chambered in .455 putting it at late 1800s through WW1. But as Levar Burton always said, "don't take my word for it".

i had one when i lived in texas (couldn't bring it to new york with me) - mine had been bored to take .45 ACP - and i agree that's exactly what this looks like to me.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/...036261648969735

There are somehow eight eager internets where you can go find and get all the Jill Valentine porn you want if you could be assed to use google and yet here we are.

It's like being a woman to them just means having to be hot 24/7 from 5 to I dunno, 30? Is that too generous?

Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007


RareAcumen posted:

It's like being a woman to them just means having to be hot 24/7 from 5 to I dunno, 30? Is that too generous?

Pretty sure they think of 30-year-old women as wizened crones. Unless they're teachers who are molesting male students, in which case that's just every teenage boy's fantasy come true.

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






https://twitter.com/9_volt_/status/1246061931636588544

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