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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.



Im not drinking her iced tea anymore

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Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.

Amanda Palmer once tried to do a national tour and get local bands to open for her "for exposure."

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010

Don't look at me-
I'm ugly in the morning
When the headaches gone
The sun is not.
Forgot to turn the alarm
On - on




Pillbug

Skwirl posted:

Amanda Palmer once tried to do a national tour and get local bands to open for her "for exposure."

I thought it was not paying her backing musicians, not the openers. Both are hosed but not paying her backing musicians feels even more ridiculous to me.

Krowley
Feb 15, 2008



She also had a flash mob wedding she is the worst

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!


jjack229 posted:

If the contact with strangers while grocery shopping is the same as the contact with a partner during sex, then I am doing at least one of those two things wrong.

As a grocery store clerk strangers are definitely getting really intimate and putting their fluids all over me until they get what they want and leave, so yeah it’s pretty similar.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I thought it was not paying her backing musicians, not the openers. Both are hosed but not paying her backing musicians feels even more ridiculous to me.

Oh yeah, I was misremembering. Holy gently caress she's terrible.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!



Krowley posted:

She also had a flash mob wedding she is the worst

What does this mean...

Wait, do I want to know?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


Yam Slacker

T-man posted:

Im not drinking her iced tea anymore

Or watching that old Twin Peaks show she was in.

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004



Powered Descent posted:

Or watching that old Twin Peaks show she was in.

She’s simply irresistible!

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Powered Descent posted:

Or watching that old Twin Peaks show she was in.

I'm sure as hell not taking a pilgrimage to the Holy Land and bringing back a palm leaf

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

I got sick of seeing a good poster with TRUMP LOVER so enjoy this thing instead.





goatsestretchgoals posted:

You’re dumb and bad but maybe you never learned how to spell the words street and fighter.

E: This movie was good enough that it managed to kill M. Tyson M. Bison

In all sincerity, the moment I realized there was a lot that presaged current comic book movies in Mortal Kombat, I knew I needed to rewatch Street Fighter and the first TMT films for the same reason.

Speaking of creative derivation, of the army of moody artist women singer-songwriters spawned by Kate Bush, Amanda Palmer is the worst, right?

x ampersand oh
Apr 19, 2006

(I’m sick, you’re tired, let’s dance)

None of these things are true, for the record.

1. She is not a terf, period end of story (There is a song called "Sex Changes" but that is about sex... changing.. things. Not gender reassignment. )

2. She did not have a flash mob wedding? She was married at Michael Chabon's house, for starters with a bunch of other famous authors there.
(Yes it's true that I'm an old school fan of hers but I only remember this bc I was doing a news blog for a record store when she got married and I wrote an article on it.)

3. The "did not pay her band" story is actually completely distorted and false:
She HAD a touring band. A paid touring band. The same band she made that album with.
She HAD opening acts. They were paid, too.

What she wanted was at every city on that tour for random local musicians to come up on stage and play with her and her band during the main concert as a big interactive experience. For fun. On a volunteer basis. it was just a last minute idea of an extra thing to add to the shows.

When other people said "hey we know you came up in this sort of diy punk communal hippy crashing concerts for free sort of way but in this day and age it sets bad precedent to not pay artists for any reason" she understood and made smaller, paid arrangements but by this point in time the internet blew the whole thing out of proportion and made up this whole exaggeration that isn't even how it happened and now this story gets spread around each and every time her name is mentioned and maybe we can stop doing that?

And now I've gone and used up my "one post every ten years", thanks a lot.

x ampersand oh has a new favorite as of 21:20 on May 4, 2020

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!




x ampersand oh posted:

None of these things are true, for the record.

1. She is not a terf, period end of story (There is a song called "Sex Changes" but that is about sex... changing.. things. Not gender reassignment. )

2. She did not have a flash mob wedding. She was married at Michael Chabon's house, for starters with a bunch of other famous authors there.

3. The "did not pay her band" story is actually completely distorted and false:
She HAD a touring band. A paid touring band. The same band she made that album with.
She HAD opening acts. They were paid, too.

What she wanted was at every city on that tour for random local musicians to come up on stage and play with her and her band during the main concert as a big interactive experience. For fun. On a volunteer basis. it was just a last minute idea of an extra thing to add to the shows.

When other people said "hey we know you came up in this sort of diy punk communal hippy crashing concerts for free sort of way but in this day and age it sets bad precedent to not pay artists for any reason" she understood and made smaller, paid arrangements but by this point in time the internet blew the whole thing out of proportion and made up this whole exaggeration that isn't even how it happened and now this story gets spread around each and every time her name is mentioned and maybe we can stop doing that?

And now I've gone and used up my "one post every ten years", thanks a lot.

Amanda Palmer account spotted

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

'splode!

x ampersand oh posted:

the internet blew the whole thing out of proportion and made up this whole exaggeration that isn't even how it happened and now this story gets spread around each and every time


That doesn't sound like the internet at all!

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014



“Sex Changes”, a song definitely about nothing but loving, which opens up with


Dear Mr. and or Mrs. sender
We're pleased to inform you that your application's been accepted
Starting from the time you get this letter
Your life will be one never-ending "hope you're feeling better"
You get your choice of an aesthetic
Ah we need to chop your clock off tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock
It might not be what you expected
There is no money back once you've been ripped off, ripped off, ripped off
Today's a very special day
The boys'll murder for it but what will the neighbors say?
It leaves you feeling pretty hollow it might be nice to look at
Don't forget you're stuck with it tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.



chitoryu12 posted:

“Sex Changes”, a song definitely about nothing but loving, which opens up with


<TERF poo poo>

x ampersand oh posted:

None of these things are true, for the record.

1. She is not a terf, period end of story (There is a song called "Sex Changes" but that is about sex... changing.. things. Not gender reassignment. )

And now I've gone and used up my "one post every ten years", thanks a lot.
please stick with that schedule, tia

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Jozy loves scoring like a fat kid loves eating cake.



College Slice

chitoryu12 posted:

“Sex Changes”, a song definitely about nothing but loving, which opens up with


Dear Mr. and or Mrs. sender
We're pleased to inform you that your application's been accepted
Starting from the time you get this letter
Your life will be one never-ending "hope you're feeling better"
You get your choice of an aesthetic
Ah we need to chop your clock off tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock
It might not be what you expected
There is no money back once you've been ripped off, ripped off, ripped off
Today's a very special day
The boys'll murder for it but what will the neighbors say?
It leaves you feeling pretty hollow it might be nice to look at
Don't forget you're stuck with it tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow

"we need to chop your clock off", definitely a real thing that people say to refer to, idk, something non-trans related

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here


x ampersand oh posted:

When other people said "hey we know you came up in this sort of diy punk communal hippy crashing concerts for free sort of way but in this day and age it sets bad precedent to not pay artists for any reason" she understood and made smaller, paid arrangements but by this point in time the internet blew the whole thing out of proportion and made up this whole exaggeration that isn't even how it happened and now this story gets spread around each and every time her name is mentioned and maybe we can stop doing that?

Wasn't her whole deal in "The Art of Asking" about how cool she was for doing that? I quite like her Theatre is Evil album, but she is kind of a poo poo.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Hence, nothing remains except our regrets.



Lipstick Apathy

x ampersand oh posted:

None of these things are true, for the record.

1. She is not a terf, period end of story (There is a song called "Sex Changes" but that is about sex... changing.. things. Not gender reassignment. )

I know nothing about Amanda Palmer, I wonder what that song-

chitoryu12 posted:

“Sex Changes”, a song definitely about nothing but loving, which opens up with


Dear Mr. and or Mrs. sender
We're pleased to inform you that your application's been accepted
Starting from the time you get this letter
Your life will be one never-ending "hope you're feeling better"
You get your choice of an aesthetic
Ah we need to chop your clock off tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock
It might not be what you expected
There is no money back once you've been ripped off, ripped off, ripped off
Today's a very special day
The boys'll murder for it but what will the neighbors say?
It leaves you feeling pretty hollow it might be nice to look at
Don't forget you're stuck with it tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014


Come on, guys. The post opened with:

x ampersand oh posted:

None of these things are true, for the record.

No need to debunk something that was meant to be complete nonsense.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Neil Gaiman wrote pretty good stuff, and did a good job of chaperoning Good Omens into an awesome miniseries. He's also done a lot of smaller awesome stuff for absolutely no good reason. I haven't read any of his work beyond.... Smoke and Mirrors, I think? Could be he's gotten really terrible.

TheManWithNoName
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

Lol the band thing was Amanda Palmer being too cheap to hire touring horn players for just a few songs per show so she wanted “professional volunteers” in each city

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

Come play my CYOA!

Save your reality from the Constructors... then save all the rest of them.


TheManWithNoName posted:

Lol the band thing was Amanda Palmer being too cheap to hire touring horn players for just a few songs per show so she wanted “professional volunteers” in each city

Sounds like she was just asking people to horn in on her set

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013


Brawnfire posted:

Sounds like she was just asking people to horn in on her set

Well a lot of her stuff has sexual themes, it's not unfair to expect people to be horny

x ampersand oh
Apr 19, 2006

(I’m sick, you’re tired, let’s dance)

Boy do I wish I had stuck to just debunking the "didn't pay her band' thing because Heck Yeah I express myself really poorly and that is why I am professional lurker.

And i really do wish I hadn't brought up the song or dismissed it so harmlessly. I was angry at People On The Internet and wanted to vent and was careless.


"Sex Changes" is a complicated situation but considering the rest of the song concentrates on abortion and domestic violence and sex from a decidedly cishetero standpoint, yes those lyrics are supposed to sound like they are about one thing when they are actually about another. Did she accidentally write transphobic sounding lyrics when she thought she was being clever about something unrelated? Yes and that's bad. I don't even know if she can apologize enough for doing that. But there's a difference between being a narcissist and being actually trans-exclusionary in her stance and politics the latter of which she is not. I really don't blame people for arguing about the song. I'm nb femme queer, btw, so i take it as personally as someone who reads it the opposite way and is not a fan does.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Absurd Alhazred posted:

Neil Gaiman wrote pretty good stuff, and did a good job of chaperoning Good Omens into an awesome miniseries. He's also done a lot of smaller awesome stuff for absolutely no good reason. I haven't read any of his work beyond.... Smoke and Mirrors, I think? Could be he's gotten really terrible.
He still gets good reviews, but at this point I don't think it's possible he couldn't unless he committed some serious taboos in the publishing world. If anything his biggest problem is resting too much on his laurels for stuff he wrote 10-30 years ago, then again if I wrote The Graveyard Book and Instructions within a decade I'd feel entitled to chill out and cash in on adaptation money too.

Pity about Palmer. She does have a personality that rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and it does make Gaiman seem like.... like he could have any number of women tripping over themselves to be Mrs. Neil Gaiman, but he sought out someone who genuinely seems to embody the "dick-flattening" meme. I get the feeling a lot of people would throw him a big party if he did cut the cord and leave.

x ampersand oh posted:

"Sex Changes" is a complicated situation but considering the rest of the song concentrates on abortion and domestic violence and sex from a decidedly cishetero standpoint, yes those lyrics are supposed to sound like they are about one thing when they are actually about another. Did she accidentally write transphobic sounding lyrics when she thought she was being clever about something unrelated? Yes and that's bad. I don't even know if she can apologize enough for doing that. But there's a difference between being a narcissist and being actually trans-exclusionary in her stance and politics the latter of which she is not. I really don't blame people for arguing about the song. I'm nb femme queer, btw, so i take it as personally as someone who reads it the opposite way and is not a fan does.
Yeah I could give benefit of the doubt on this, but given how she portrays herself as this headstrong, moralizing alpha bitch it's no surprise people have a very low tolerance for any of her bullshit.

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PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017





I mean it basically sounds to me like Palmer makes some pretty impulsive bad decisions and then people who don't like her amplify that bc that's the nature of... anti-fandom? I have no defense for Sex Changes and am not even going to try and excuse that, but the real IoSM seem like fans of Gaiman and Palmer going nuts over a breakup.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Having read that Patreon page I'm absolutely reminded of high school relationship drama and yeah I nope'd the gently caress out of the details.

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


Funny how I finished reading American Gods for the first time just earlier this afternoon.

(Overall pretty decent, though the middle portion where Shadow hides away in the Midwest town could’ve stood to be trimmed down more than a bit, and the ending was a bit anticlimactic)

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Here, have some primo incel poo poo.

https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/s...697210936463362

https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/s...175262644637696

It's a whole thread.

Slowpoke Rodriguez
Jun 20, 2009


Regalingualius posted:

Funny how I finished reading American Gods for the first time just earlier this afternoon.

(Overall pretty decent, though the middle portion where Shadow hides away in the Midwest town could’ve stood to be trimmed down more than a bit, and the ending was a bit anticlimactic)

Read Anansi Boys next it's like a semi-sequel, and it's probably better.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

I THINK BUDWEISER IS GOOD. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO ME.

I really like that one song of hers from Life is Strange.

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:

Read Anansi Boys next it's like a semi-sequel, and it's probably better.

Planning to, considering I have all of this free time now.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

It was all going well, and then the parademons showed up


Fallen Rib

His recent Norse Mythology is a solid read, and I have never been disappointed with anything he has written (though I do prefer his short stories). Also I will go to bat for Dresden Dolls any time. Palmer does have a personality that rubs a lot of people the wrong way and that's fine. I like some things she does and dislike others. I have been to at least two shows of her and Gaiman where they put on a free live show for fans and those were always a lot of fun.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



It really is all about trying to remove humanity from human interaction and reduce it down to a formula, at best.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012



https://mobile.twitter.com/alphariv...224637111779332

Regalingualius
Jan 6, 2012


“I’ve been rejected thousands of times, clearly it’s everyone ELSE who’s the problem!”

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!



This is such a loving honeypot for people who belong on your block list and watchlists generally.

Edit:

https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/s...784750503378951

LOL

Absurd Alhazred has a new favorite as of 23:18 on May 4, 2020

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!



Absurd Alhazred posted:

This is such a loving honeypot for people who belong on your block list and watchlists generally.

Correct, it is a Twitter thread.

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Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW



Absurd Alhazred posted:

This is such a loving honeypot for people who belong on your block list and watchlists generally.

Edit:

https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/s...784750503378951

LOL

Fellas is it gay to please other people? Sounds like this is why Rome fell.

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