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Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

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Cranappleberry posted:

and to do this day people think it was the polio.

Mass obliviation!

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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
the legend of skinwalkers came from native american animagi. Unscrupulous no-maj medicine men, faking the powers of wizards, spread rumors that animagi gained their animal forms by sacrificing their kin.

just in case you needed to be horrified by more canon racism.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I am a proud member of the Who Dat Nation and I have Silly Burrito to thank for it. I also buy my king cakes at Wal-Mart
I just realized Japan once had a no-fooling government department for divinitation, geomorphology, and time keeping that were non-religious (when founded) and trained new seers so why was that not used for their school?

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post


Well, no, there's still her sister, who keeps mindwiping her muggle boyfriend to make him stay with her and now works for Wizard Hitler.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Barudak posted:

I just realized Japan once had a no-fooling government department for divinitation, geomorphology, and time keeping that were non-religious (when founded) and trained new seers so why was that not used for their school?

That would take effort and j/k is too busy building more treehouses to do research into other cultures and histories.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
I must remind you all that our first representation was the character Anthony Goldstein, of Ravenclaw House.

"seems kinda hosed up that JK Rowling couldn't think of a second stereotypically jewish name!" you might say. You might even say "wow it's really questionable how she claimed that she made a jewish character when he does nothing but get namedropped twice in a 500 million page YA magnum opus."

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I must remind you all that our first representation was the character Anthony Goldstein, of Ravenclaw House.

"seems kinda hosed up that JK Rowling couldn't think of a second stereotypically jewish name!" you might say. You might even say "wow it's really questionable how she claimed that she made a jewish character when he does nothing but get namedropped twice in a 500 million page YA magnum opus."

Lol he's a relative of Portentina and Queenie in the Fantastic Beasts movies too so there's literally one Jewish wizard family apparently

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.
JKR being an incredibly thin-skinned, spiteful egomaniac maybe gives the idea that she wrote Katherine Waterston out of the film the edge, but I can just as readily see Waterston negotiating her way out of a third turkey of a film in a flailing franchise

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I must remind you all that our first representation was the character Anthony Goldstein, of Ravenclaw House.

"seems kinda hosed up that JK Rowling couldn't think of a second stereotypically jewish name!" you might say. You might even say "wow it's really questionable how she claimed that she made a jewish character when he does nothing but get namedropped twice in a 500 million page YA magnum opus."

Don't forget that 33% of Jewish wizards in the Harry Potter canon are magic nazi rapists!

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May 13, 2007

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Runcible Cat posted:


You'd think wizard child protective services would be an essential and well-funded part of wizard government just to avoid poo poo like this, but apparently all the funding goes to Aurors.

You've changed my mind, these movies are apparently amazingly accurate depictions of what an actual wizard society would be like.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Harry giving desperate, breathless testimony during a Wizengemot budget committee hearing about how they absolutely need to increase Auror funding to combat the rise in violent dark arts crime.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

TinTower posted:

Don't forget that 33% of Jewish wizards in the Harry Potter canon are magic nazi rapists!

And the second 33% are the world's stupidest cop. Maybe I was too harsh on Anthony, having no traits and doing nothing is the best of three. We saw Fleur, we saw Seamus O'Carbomb, we saw how Joanne writes every single black character. If he got any traits it would be his patronus is a rat and he aspires to work for the bank.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Was there anything that bad about Dean Thomas? He was just kind of there more than anything else.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
He dates Ginny for a bit in Book 5 and then gets into a big fight with her and they break up, I guess. But yeah he like Sean is mostly just around to be another boy Harry can talk to if he's fighting with Ron.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

bobjr posted:

Was there anything that bad about Dean Thomas? He was just kind of there more than anything else.

He is just mostly there iirc, but his dad never told his mother about magic and then walked out on them when Dean was a baby

Piell fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Apr 13, 2022

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009

Sydin posted:

Harry giving desperate, breathless testimony during a Wizengemot budget committee hearing about how they absolutely need to increase Auror funding to combat the rise in violent dark arts crime.

We are the only thing standing between you and the darkness. We are the hippogryphs protecting the herd from evil werewolves.

Another Voldemort could be rising in the shadows right now. People in this room could be a horcruxes or possessed by them and no one would know.

Sydin posted:

He dates Ginny for a bit in Book 5 and then gets into a big fight with her and they break up, I guess. But yeah he like Sean is mostly just around to be another boy Harry can talk to if he's fighting with Ron.

They break up book 6 much to harry's monster's delight.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

And the second 33% are the world's stupidest cop. Maybe I was too harsh on Anthony, having no traits and doing nothing is the best of three. We saw Fleur, we saw Seamus O'Carbomb, we saw how Joanne writes every single black character. If he got any traits it would be his patronus is a rat and he aspires to work for the bank.

i never connected seamus blowing everything up with his irishness

lmao @ jk rowling

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Jazerus posted:

i never connected seamus blowing everything up with his irishness

lmao @ jk rowling

Tbf that's pretty much a movie exclusive thing and she didn't really write those. He's nothing in the books.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Cranappleberry posted:

They break up book 6 much to harry's monster's delight.

Extremely funny that Harry functionally ignores Ginny for five books and then the second she decides "alright I've got zero chance with him and it was a stupid precocious crush anyway I'll date a guy who's actually into me" Harry devolves into a frothing jealous rage.

It's a shame JK walked it all back and it turns out no Harry and Ginny are actually destine soulmates and Ginny never gave up on Harry.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

One day Harry smells her hair (it smells like broom oil) and it gives him a funny feeling in his tummy. That feeling is love

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
The chest-boner of love.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
Weird aside that tangents rowling'w racism against american indians- wizards in the old world had contact and trade with wizards in the new before colonization or "discovery" including viking.

So they could have imported potatoes earlier to save tens of millions from scurvy and starvation or, you know, prevented multiple genocides. To be fair, the Euro wizards wouldn't bother but you'd think African wizards would want to try.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

One day Harry smells her hair (it smells like broom oil) and it gives him a funny feeling in his tummy. That feeling is love

He smells amortentia and can't figure out what the extra smell represents. Meanwhile Hermione rattles off a list including freshly cut grass, parchment paper and...

Shwoo
Jul 21, 2011

The line from the Sorting mentioning that Dean Thomas is black is only in the American version, so I thought maybe he wasn't, until Rowling's American publishers requested Hogwarts have at least one black student. But looking into it more, she said on her old site that the line was in the original draft, and her editor cut it because the chapter was too long. If she's telling the truth, then she showed a lot of restraint in not giving him a gimmicky name.

Was there extra info on Dean's family on Pottermore? I'm not sure if his dad walked out, or if his mum thought he walked out because he was murdered by Death Eaters. The wiki's source is ambiguous:

JK Rowling posted:

Dean is from what he always thought was a pure Muggle background. He has been raised by his mother and his stepfather; his father walked out on the family when Dean was very young. He has a very happy home life, with a number of half-brothers and sisters.

Naturally when the letter came from Hogwarts Dean's mother wondered whether his father might have been a wizard, but nobody has ever discovered the truth: that Dean's father, who had never told his wife what he was because he wanted to protect her, got himself killed by Death Eaters when he refused to join them. The projected story had Dean discovering all this during his school career. I suppose in some ways I sacrificed Dean's voyage of discovery for Neville's, which is more important to the central plot.
Not that his family thinking he walked out when he got murdered by is much better.

Also, I haven't seen the Fantastic Beasts movies and I thought Queenie was black for the longest time, and I don't know why. Even found it uncomfortable that she's the one who joins the wizard Nazis because she's sad she can't marry the boyfriend she's been drugging.

I mean, I was right to be. Just had the wrong reason.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


wait so the sister is still in the movies and working with wizard hitler
so uh

the only jewish character left is evil because she's trying to stop the holocaust

e: and the good jewish character doesn't want to stop the holocaust???

Shwoo
Jul 21, 2011

I think she switches back to the good guys at the climax of the latest movie. It ends with her and Jacob getting married in Jacob's bakery.

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

Sydin posted:

He dates Ginny for a bit in Book 5 and then gets into a big fight with her and they break up, I guess.
Which was a result of Harry drinking the luck potion.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011

Overly Confident North Wilmington Nobody
(From the 1953 film Gentlemen Prefer Yellows)

Mx. posted:

wait so the sister is still in the movies and working with wizard hitler
so uh

the only jewish character left is evil because she's trying to stop the holocaust

e: and the good jewish character doesn't want to stop the holocaust???

Sounds about right, yes.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I am a proud member of the Who Dat Nation and I have Silly Burrito to thank for it. I also buy my king cakes at Wal-Mart
Look, I get being scared of Hitler. They're just regular people getting swept up in horrific global events not well connected wizards with the ability to wipe minds, turn completely invisible, and kill from a distance without leaving a mark.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
Why the gently caress wouldn't you make hundreds of those luck potions???

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Shwoo posted:

The line from the Sorting mentioning that Dean Thomas is black is only in the American version, so I thought maybe he wasn't, until Rowling's American publishers requested Hogwarts have at least one black student. But looking into it more, she said on her old site that the line was in the original draft, and her editor cut it because the chapter was too long. If she's telling the truth, then she showed a lot of restraint in not giving him a gimmicky name.

Even if she didn't give Dean a gimmicky name, she still used the racist 'absent black father' trait on him. She really can't help but be as offensive as possible. :lol:

Sydin posted:

Extremely funny that Harry functionally ignores Ginny for five books and then the second she decides "alright I've got zero chance with him and it was a stupid precocious crush anyway I'll date a guy who's actually into me" Harry devolves into a frothing jealous rage.

It's a shame JK walked it all back and it turns out no Harry and Ginny are actually destine soulmates and Ginny never gave up on Harry.

Harry and Ginny's relationship was terrible in so many ways; Their dynamic was basically doing everything Harry wanted so he can stay in his comfort zone. Ginny's hobby is Quidditch so Harry doesn't have to put any effort in learning about Ginny's other interests. Ginny conveniently also isn't like those other girls who love to go to that fancy tea shop so Harry never has to extend himself to give her a fancy date. The book goes into more detail about Harry stalking Draco than it did with his dates with Ginny.

It even extends to the way he treated Ginny at the end of HBP and DH. Instead of taking Ginny along with them to help them out, he breaks up with her because he wants to keep her safe, which is just code for 'I don't want to feel bad if you get hurt/die'. And when Ginny was arguing with Molly that they need all the fighters then can get for Voldemort's assault, Harry still doesn't stand up for her and sends her off, despite Ginny being a major member of Neville's resistance.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Shwoo posted:

The line from the Sorting mentioning that Dean Thomas is black is only in the American version, so I thought maybe he wasn't, until Rowling's American publishers requested Hogwarts have at least one black student. But looking into it more, she said on her old site that the line was in the original draft, and her editor cut it because the chapter was too long. If she's telling the truth, then she showed a lot of restraint in not giving him a gimmicky name.

Was there extra info on Dean's family on Pottermore? I'm not sure if his dad walked out, or if his mum thought he walked out because he was murdered by Death Eaters. The wiki's source is ambiguous:

Not that his family thinking he walked out when he got murdered by is much better.

Also, I haven't seen the Fantastic Beasts movies and I thought Queenie was black for the longest time, and I don't know why. Even found it uncomfortable that she's the one who joins the wizard Nazis because she's sad she can't marry the boyfriend she's been drugging.

I mean, I was right to be. Just had the wrong reason.

Lol did you ever watch American Horror Story? Queenie is the black kid in the season about teenagers at witch school. I don't remember if it was good or not but I suspect bare minimum, better than these movies.

The main black character in Fantastic Beasts is Leta Lestrange. She's a cop, oh and her dad drugged and raped her mom, because we can't just have one rape plot in the family adventure film. gently caress it I'm gonna just rant about the ending of the last movie since the Johnny Depp nazi rally/anti-nazi rally gets all the love.

The scene right before the climactic nazi rally is a scooby doo meetup in her family crypt. Every character separately bumbles in there and accuses Ezra Miller/dead Dumbledore relative of being a different dude. The crypt and the nazi rally are also apparently right in the french ministry of magic. Newt and his two cop gfs (only black woman in the story and one of three jews in the universe) have a fight with some cgi cat things in the government office, several big aha reveals about things no one cares about culminating in a rape and baby murder reveal, then everyone is like "eh gently caress it the coked up Johnny Depp rally is right upstairs, let's see what he has to say." Then there's an even bigger cgi clusterfuck where the cops try to arrest Johnny Depp but immediately bail because he casts a magic fire spell where you have to be a loyal wizard nazi to pass the fire safely. Queenie gets through while her love interest, the delightful bumbling sidekick, pleads that she's being insane. This character is portrayed by Dan Fogler who is jewish irl, further making the whole holocaust plot infuriating. All the while our hero Albus Dumbledore is under house arrest. His sagely takeaway is "drat you stupid cops were way too harsh on the nazis, no wonder they are starting a war. smdh."

I dearly envy everyone who gets to just read the unhinged plot details without actually having to remember seeing these movies. If wizards are out there, please obliviate me.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

amigolupus posted:

Even if she didn't give Dean a gimmicky name, she still used the racist 'absent black father' trait on him. She really can't help but be as offensive as possible. :lol:

Harry and Ginny's relationship was terrible in so many ways; Their dynamic was basically doing everything Harry wanted so he can stay in his comfort zone. Ginny's hobby is Quidditch so Harry doesn't have to put any effort in learning about Ginny's other interests. Ginny conveniently also isn't like those other girls who love to go to that fancy tea shop so Harry never has to extend himself to give her a fancy date. The book goes into more detail about Harry stalking Draco than it did with his dates with Ginny.

It even extends to the way he treated Ginny at the end of HBP and DH. Instead of taking Ginny along with them to help them out, he breaks up with her because he wants to keep her safe, which is just code for 'I don't want to feel bad if you get hurt/die'. And when Ginny was arguing with Molly that they need all the fighters then can get for Voldemort's assault, Harry still doesn't stand up for her and sends her off, despite Ginny being a major member of Neville's resistance.

Book 5:
:geno: "Ginny I can't take you with us, it's too dangerous."
:raise: "gently caress off nerd, I'm better at hexes then you are. I'm gonna kick some Death Eater rear end."

Book 6:
:geno: "Ginny I can't take you with us, it's too dangerous."
:swoon: "I understand Harry, I'll wait for you forever. Be safe."

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

amigolupus posted:

Even if she didn't give Dean a gimmicky name, she still used the racist 'absent black father' trait on him. She really can't help but be as offensive as possible. :lol:

Harry and Ginny's relationship was terrible in so many ways; Their dynamic was basically doing everything Harry wanted so he can stay in his comfort zone. Ginny's hobby is Quidditch so Harry doesn't have to put any effort in learning about Ginny's other interests. Ginny conveniently also isn't like those other girls who love to go to that fancy tea shop so Harry never has to extend himself to give her a fancy date. The book goes into more detail about Harry stalking Draco than it did with his dates with Ginny.

It even extends to the way he treated Ginny at the end of HBP and DH. Instead of taking Ginny along with them to help them out, he breaks up with her because he wants to keep her safe, which is just code for 'I don't want to feel bad if you get hurt/die'. And when Ginny was arguing with Molly that they need all the fighters then can get for Voldemort's assault, Harry still doesn't stand up for her and sends her off, despite Ginny being a major member of Neville's resistance.

Don't forget the most important part - their relationship is a way for him to officially become part of her family, the one thing he really wanted all along.

Is there any doubt that he would have married Ron if he was a girl?

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


or if he was gay- oh sorry gay relationships cant be longer than 6 seconds of airtime

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

The main black character in Fantastic Beasts is Leta Lestrange. She's a cop, oh and her dad drugged and raped her mom, because we can't just have one rape plot in the family adventure film.

So when Yusuf's dad went to the Aurors and complained that Lestrange had mind-controlled, kidnapped and raped his wife and assaulted his son when the boy tried to stop him, we can safely assume they told him it was a domestic dispute and they wouldn't be getting involved, right?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Gotta admit it's definitely the funniest option to end up 'China made them cut the gay bits out of the movie, all six seconds of them!'

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May 13, 2007

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Gotta admit it's definitely the funniest option to end up 'China made them cut the gay bits out of the movie, all six seconds of them!'

First mainstream gay movie romance ever (what the gently caress you looking at Oscar award wining movie Brokeback Mountain?)

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
I won't say movie would be better if it was a 120 minute Jude Law/Mads Mikkelsen sex scene. I also won't say it wouldn't.

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Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I won't say movie would be better if it was a 120 minute Jude Law/Mads Mikkelsen sex scene. I also won't say it wouldn't.

I will say that's the only thing that could conceivably make me pay money to watch it.

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